thread for discussion of guitarists i have only heard of because i read guitar magazines in the late 90s

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doesn't really fit in w/ these weirdos at least not in their dotage

kenny wayne was on a g3 tour so he's in

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 May 2014 01:51 (nine years ago) link

i've always kinda dug "cliffs of dover"

smhphony orchestra (crüt), Friday, 16 May 2014 01:53 (nine years ago) link

Hey now, you're all missing a classic thread here that has a LOT of crossover with this:

John Petrucci brings you...ROCK DISCIPLINE (a picture thread if the pictures can fit)

The Petrucci and Gambale video reviews therein are astounding.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 May 2014 01:54 (nine years ago) link

You can always go straight to the Petrucci review here. And you should.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 May 2014 01:56 (nine years ago) link

good thread! how did i forget about zakk wylde

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 May 2014 01:56 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S018IwrFd_4

^^^the best solo fyi

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 May 2014 01:58 (nine years ago) link

Left Hand Technique: Legato Playing
Exercising the left hand with hammerons and pulloffs. Some of it kinda sounds like "Eruption".
I forgot to mention that he is filmed with a purple lens filter for much of this. it really brings out his choadliness.
He wants us to massage ourselves again cuz now it's time to put it all together and shred!.
He makes like Steve Vai at the end of Crossroads for a few minutes, then plays some shit slow for a while, finally showing us again how fast A REAL ASSHOLE LIKE HIM can play it! Some VH tapping in there as well...

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 May 2014 01:58 (nine years ago) link

for a while guitar player mag was the cool alternative to guitar mag. their johnny marr cover story was formative for me.

― fact checking cuz, Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:48 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i found a ratty old copy of it somewhere when i was a kid, from the mid/late 80s and they actually did a story on the avant garde guitar scene! featured sonic youth, live skill, savage republic, rat at rar r, and bands like that - first exposure to any of that

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 May 2014 02:04 (nine years ago) link

guitar player was the only one of these mags that ever covered anything cool, much to their credit

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:05 (nine years ago) link

I watched that Yngwie "Arpeggios from Hell" video last week. So rad.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 16 May 2014 02:07 (nine years ago) link

Jeez Holdsworth's guitars are some of the ugliest I've ever seen

Master of Treacle, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:07 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvouiDJSTUE

^Might be too old, but I know 90s guitar mags tabbed this song out all the time.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 16 May 2014 02:09 (nine years ago) link

Holdsworth is the man. I love a lot of this music. Jeff Beck rules all, obviously

brimstead, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:09 (nine years ago) link

Oh Holdsworth can really play. Like Gambale. Has his own thing going on.

Master of Treacle, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:10 (nine years ago) link

thread of badass guitarists

brimstead, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:10 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiXR9ggRdFI

calstars, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:12 (nine years ago) link

did they talk about danny gatton in late 90s guitar mags?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGGE4CrPvjU

brimstead, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:13 (nine years ago) link

I think there's definitely a subset of players even in a technically minded field like this where you can go, yeah, maybe not my thing, but they've completely fucking mastered that. Be it the fluidity of the playing or not relying on speed or knowing exactly where to speed up. And so on.

Master of Treacle, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:14 (nine years ago) link

xp fuck yes they did but he was dead so they couldn't interview him every other month

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:15 (nine years ago) link

danny gatton was really good imo

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:15 (nine years ago) link

I posted this in the Yngwie thread but in case you missed what is in my opinion the greatest single thing ever said by a musician in an interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHZ48AE3TOI

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 May 2014 02:19 (nine years ago) link

pains me to say this as a good ilx brigade member but Leo Kottke

And here is the part of the thread where UMS breaks my heart into a million bits.

Kottke in his prime pre tendonitis could eat basically every one of these dudes alive. Also bonus points wrote listenable songs and stuff.

god bless yngwie xp

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:23 (nine years ago) link

Ha I realize I am uh shall we say biased thx to family history, but I'm speaking from outside of that here.

JJ I love kottke!

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 May 2014 02:24 (nine years ago) link

re: kottke idk if the guitar press ever knew what to do with him, he's a weirdo and not really the ingratiating type.

also yes he wrote songs in addition to being able to shred.

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:24 (nine years ago) link

I know about like 95% of the dudes in this thread because of my high school guitar teacher. I always thought nearly all of them were terrible and used to just kind of grin and grit my teeth through listening to them/talking about them. He was also really into this duo called Tuck & Patti (guitarist Tuck Andress) who I continue to find pretty embarrassing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIVjCJ3jNDw

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Friday, 16 May 2014 02:38 (nine years ago) link

Even as my tastes have "mellowed" and "matured" I continue to find almost all of the music in this thread pointless.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Friday, 16 May 2014 02:39 (nine years ago) link

Two things I know about Tuck & Patti:
* St. Vincent is related to one of them (a niece I think)
* Jim Carrey wrote a song for them that they recorded

Immediate Follower (NA), Friday, 16 May 2014 02:40 (nine years ago) link

tuck andress is def one of these guys. i lol'd when i found out he is annie clark's uncle.

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:40 (nine years ago) link

He was also into this "unsung" guy called Danny Gatton (no one ever mentions Danny Gatton without talking about how unsung he was).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUpP7CnW4yA

Kinda cool, certainly could play, but honestly it's not really surprising why this no-style-having dude playing country-pickin and blues in the 80s was "unsung."

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Friday, 16 May 2014 02:42 (nine years ago) link

Tuck the uncle of Annie Clark iirc.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:43 (nine years ago) link

My guitar teacher was a nice and pretty cool guy and also had no style. His only criterion was "that cat can play." He would praise literally anyone who could play their instrument well.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Friday, 16 May 2014 02:44 (nine years ago) link

Gatton was a genius. Search for some clip with him, Alvin Lee and Vince Gill, the latter two unsung but as good as anyone.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:44 (nine years ago) link

Albert Lee sorry.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:46 (nine years ago) link

did they talk about danny gatton in late 90s guitar mags?
http://www.youtube.com/v/mGGE4CrPvjU&fs=1&hl=en

― brimstead, Thursday, May 15, 2014 7:13 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

brimstead, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:46 (nine years ago) link

Haha I thought so m@tt I just parsed the way you said that wrong, sorry dude!

Kottke in person is a very sweet odd dude (wrt that press deal), he once told my dad after I fell down and banged my head as a 2 yr old or so on something that he should buy me a crash helmet and my dad laughed and then realized that Leo was completely serious.

One Way Rider - Albert Lee, Vince Gill & Danny Ga…: http://youtu.be/O8ljrPfsa50

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:48 (nine years ago) link

Kinda cool, certainly could play, but honestly it's not really surprising why this no-style-having dude playing country-pickin and blues in the 80s was "unsung."

Who does he sound like, though? I mean, you can definitely hear his influences sure, but no style?!? I think he's unsung because instrumental guitar music has not been popular in several decades, duh

brimstead, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:50 (nine years ago) link

Also UMS in service of my endless attempts to get you into the shop to hang out, if you show up I'll play you a bunch of kottke live as a 17-19 year old, shit is nuts. I'll even throw in live fahey rambling on about the weird contents of his head, tuning forever, and then banging out crazy awesome 15 minute raga drones, rinse, repeat.

honestly he sounds a lot like the dude on the right in that video (vince gill?)

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Friday, 16 May 2014 02:53 (nine years ago) link

no

brimstead, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:56 (nine years ago) link

Gatton was far from unsung in guitar nerd world in the late 80s, but no one outside of that cared much. Dude who knew him and worked on his fender signature guitar straight up told me that the depression/suicide was 100% based on realizing he was never going to escape that level, which is a huge bummer.

Vince Gill can shred by the way. I had no idea til one of those crossroads shows. Brad Paisley his modern heir.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:58 (nine years ago) link

Gatton was also kind of the last of the Atkins/Clark/reed sorta dudes in country, super effortless.

http://youtu.be/ND2NFtImjlY

Vince Gill & Brad Paisley - "Workin' Man Blues": http://youtu.be/-cm8hgoLc80

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 May 2014 03:02 (nine years ago) link

i wouldn't call vince gill unsung, though. his chops are the stuff of legend in nashville.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 16 May 2014 03:08 (nine years ago) link

Gatton was far from unsung in guitar nerd world in the late 80s, but no one outside of that cared much. Dude who knew him and worked on his fender signature guitar straight up told me that the depression/suicide was 100% based on realizing he was never going to escape that level, which is a huge bummer.

― Everyone is awful except you. Wait, no, you are also awful. (jjjusten), Thursday, May 15, 2014 10:56 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeesh

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 May 2014 03:10 (nine years ago) link


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