thread for discussion of guitarists i have only heard of because i read guitar magazines in the late 90s

who am i to disagree

it's the greatest

allan holdsworth's hands are actually scary

will jazz ppl get offended if I say Stanley Clarke and Jaco Pastorious?

My roommate (and one of my best friends) bought this in college and we would watch it regularly

http://i.imgur.com/1rtzXKx.jpg

Bela Fleck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4emJASIuYA
JEFF BECK

man i've known for quite some time that steve vai has a song called 'bad horsie' but never in a million years would i have guessed that it actually featured real horse sound effects

frank gambale is a really good one.

jeff beck's inclusion makes me sad, but yeah

Shawn Lane

http://i.imgur.com/exhhOoZ.png

jeff beck has good stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0d1HilfLxA

trower

Jason Becker (man, totally sucks about his ALS :( )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTx0ms0tfCE

yeah beck's weird cuz he started out in real stuff and then kinda turned into this

he rules obv in yardbirds and jeff beck group and even though his early solo albums sort of birthed this whole genre they are good

pains me to say this as a good ilx brigade member but Leo Kottke

Ralph Macchio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGWfDkx4zyY

al dimeola

yes!

who are you, al?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIFC0LOmJ_g

steve lukather

feel that this stuff would be easier to understand if it wasn't posing as music, it seems to work with an entirely different set of aesthetic criteria than anything i know and like as music.

i am scanning through guitar player's features archive and in jan 2014 i found a page with lukather, satriani, holdsworth, and lukather again.

it's been 15 years since i read this magazine!

wow

tommy emmanuel

i ended up watching this whole thing on palladia HD once, so ridiculous

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ik0T9ivZVhk

Joe Pass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7mqDYTLGzI

Jennifer Batton - she was Michael Jackson's guitarist for awhile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewxQqpXprNA

Doug Mark's and his "Metal Method", I used to see those ads

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mpfFiYgaEs

did anyone notice the thing where every few months these magazines featured a sitarist no one had ever heard of who was working on some kind of sitar-blues fusion thing?

eric gales

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q-1KSW4BiM

All my knowledge of this stuff is secondhand but these types of instruments were a regular staple of guitar mags right

http://www.stick.com/instruments/

the stick is forever tied to Mr. Tony Levin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgUDDxFgL7I

ex-Billy Idol guitarist Steve Stevens

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncOA5GbU-ZI

though Dokken was pretty famous, George Lynch was always a big deal in guitar mags

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0QCR06v0vw

sonny landreth

who knows what kenny wayne shepherd has been up to since then but in the 90s he broke as a (weedly weedly rock tradition) blues guitarist who was a teenager (thus golly talent etc)

doesn't really fit in w/ these weirdos at least not in their dotage

i think i bought an album by one of them once but i forget which one and anyway it sucked

I remember these mags constantly talking about Eric Johnson's tone. His big thing was tone.

It was great when alternative rock got big and Guitar Player would still have tabs for Stevie Ray Vaughan sings but they'd also have to interview Grasshopper from Mercury Rec about recording the sound of cats trying to eat tuna from under guitar strings.

michael schenker (you might've known him legitimately for other reasons, but his guitar magazine fame was something else altogether)

for a while guitar player mag was the cool alternative to guitar mag. their johnny marr cover story was formative for me.

doesn't really fit in w/ these weirdos at least not in their dotage

kenny wayne was on a g3 tour so he's in

i've always kinda dug "cliffs of dover"

Hey now, you're all missing a classic thread here that has a LOT of crossover with this:

John Petrucci brings you...ROCK DISCIPLINE (a picture thread if the pictures can fit)

The Petrucci and Gambale video reviews therein are astounding.

You can always go straight to the Petrucci review here. And you should.

good thread! how did i forget about zakk wylde

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S018IwrFd_4

^^^the best solo fyi

Left Hand Technique: Legato Playing
Exercising the left hand with hammerons and pulloffs. Some of it kinda sounds like "Eruption".
I forgot to mention that he is filmed with a purple lens filter for much of this. it really brings out his choadliness.
He wants us to massage ourselves again cuz now it's time to put it all together and shred!.
He makes like Steve Vai at the end of Crossroads for a few minutes, then plays some shit slow for a while, finally showing us again how fast A REAL ASSHOLE LIKE HIM can play it! Some VH tapping in there as well...

for a while guitar player mag was the cool alternative to guitar mag. their johnny marr cover story was formative for me.

― fact checking cuz, Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:48 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i found a ratty old copy of it somewhere when i was a kid, from the mid/late 80s and they actually did a story on the avant garde guitar scene! featured sonic youth, live skill, savage republic, rat at rar r, and bands like that - first exposure to any of that

guitar player was the only one of these mags that ever covered anything cool, much to their credit

I watched that Yngwie "Arpeggios from Hell" video last week. So rad.

Jeez Holdsworth's guitars are some of the ugliest I've ever seen

I feel like Tosin Abasi is one of the contemporary equivalents of these guys - monstrous guitarist, but I cannot bring myself to listen to his music
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, April 5, 2022 9:39 PM (two days ago)

A few years ago, I went to see Buke & Gase at a venue in Minneapolis called the Skyway, and one of the opening acts was Animals As Leaders (who I got really into after seeing live). After the show, my first thought was “This was a show totally curated for this very thread! Too bad we no longer have the music media landscape of the 90s.”

I’m imagining Guitar World giving us a 2-page photo essay featuring the Aron(e)’s titular buke and gase, with Wolf Marshall explaining how he had to invent the nomenclature to describe the transcription of the 'gase' part for “No Land”; then after a brief article by whomever would function as today's version of John Petrucci (I dont know, maybe HH Hendrix from Liturgy?), we’d find a double-interview feature where Deafheaven's Kerry McCoy and H.E.R. get all anarchic with Animals as Leaders’ string-savants* Tosin and Javier Reyes.

*Actual term used in a review of a Dream Theater album!

https://www.guitarworld.com/tag/tosin-abasi

https://www.guitarworld.com/author/tosin-abasi

The way you know a wanky shredder has made it these days is that they have their own NeuralDSP guitar modeling plugin

https://neuraldsp.com/plugins/archetype-abasi
https://neuraldsp.com/plugins/archetype-plini

https://www.guitarworld.com/tag/tosin-abasi

https://www.guitarworld.com/author/tosin-abasi

― And liberty she pirouette (Sund4r), Thursday, April 7, 2022 7:32 PM (one hour ago)

HOLY APEIROPHOBIA!

The Vai thing is cool tbh. More like Jeff Beck than Yngwie.

― And liberty she pirouette (Sund4r), Wednesday, April 6, 2022 1:52 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

i legit enjoyed the vai video haha, it is pretty cool! i know nothing about guitarists or shred but i mean it's just so baroque in its dweebiness, and vai is 61 years old!!!! what's not to love lol.

i guess that guitar must miraculously not be that heavy because otherwise i'm not sure how his back could handle it

and vai is 61 years old!!!! what's not to love lol.

― the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, April 7, 2022 7:17 PM

HE DOES JAZZ HANDS MULTIPLE TIMES

Yeah if these guys are gonna do this stuff they might as well lean into the ridiculousness and make it fun, not that's it's gonna, y'know, sound any better

Occasionally if I go down a bit of a gearhead wormhole on youtube I start getting recommendations for this Ichika Nito/Tim Henson type shit which is I guess the millennial evolution of this stuff, lots of clever harmonics and insanely skilful jumping around the fretboard, but also completely joyless and pedantic

lean into the ridiculousness and make it fun

Unfortunately, for many technically-skilled musicians this translates as "ape Zappa".

Animals as Leaders is totally Dream Theater for the youtube generation, I hate it

its unlistenable

Anyone else think Vai looks kinda like Corey Feldman in that clip?

I tried listening to a bunch of these albums. Honestly I would like a lot of them if the drums sounded better. I really wanted this one to be good:

https://i.discogs.com/u_oRG-VzAZvbBDLLAtnJaWbLazRtojbrG6odVYroUQ4/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:600/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTE3MjEy/ODYtMTQ2NzEyMzIw/My05MzQxLmpwZWc.jpeg

I remember that one, damn

They would have way more strings now

Yeah, my friend's family's record store stocked that one when I was in high school.

Their second one sounds marginally better. I loved that all that Shrapnel records stuff in the nineties when I was fifteen and a young aspiring metal guitar player. Anyone remember Greg Howe? He went the fusion way and is still pretty active. His album Tilt, which he made with Ritchie Kotzen who by then was also trying to get away from just shredding, features some insane soloing if you're into the ten thousand notes per second thing - which I kind of still am.

One lesser talked about but also very revered in shred guitar circles is the album Truth in Shredding by Frank Gambale, Brett Garsed and Shawn Lane (the most shreddy of all shredders).

I know way too much about this stuff.

The "lean into it and make it fun" schtick can descend into bacon territory pretty quickly, although I have a soft spot for Batio.

Speaking of Kotzen, I was just checking out The Winery Dogs, which is his trio with Billy Sheehan and Mike Portnoy. The downsides are the godawful band name, the trips into blues-rock territory. Kotzen's vocals - which waver between budget Chris Cornell and Sammy Hagar - could be better sometimes, could be worse. But I think their hard rock numbers are pretty fun, and use their combined virtuosities to complement the songs. Serviceable hard rock with pyrotechnics for flavor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SoTgZjokLU

lol at the slow mo shred shot at 1:37.

honestly i enjoy that song more than anything on the last mastodon album lol

dat bass face @ 1:21

haha wow, you're not kidding re: cornell aping.

that is like, recognizable as a song though. it has parts and a melody and generally makes sense.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51CdjpPYIFL._UXNaN_FMjpg_QL85_.jpg

Next level

"Can you show me on the doll where rock touched you?"