thread for discussion of guitarists i have only heard of because i read guitar magazines in the late 90s

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSlR90VEKlY
4. John Petrucci

the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 16 May 2014 00:26 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6N4WbXRu-c

5. KENNY WAYNE

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 May 2014 00:27 (nine years ago) link

yeah, petrucci is otm

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 May 2014 00:28 (nine years ago) link

6. Eric Johnson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15eu7ar5EKM

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 16 May 2014 00:28 (nine years ago) link

i am completely unclear on how any of these guys have careers

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 May 2014 00:28 (nine years ago) link

was just going to post EJ!

the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 16 May 2014 00:28 (nine years ago) link

Alan Holdsworth

Tony MacApline

David T. Chastain

Alex Skolnick

Stu Hamm (bassist but still a staple)

Victor Wooten (ditto)

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 May 2014 00:29 (nine years ago) link

Alvin Lee

Michael Hedges

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 May 2014 00:30 (nine years ago) link

love ej's shirt in that video, very "would thou likest to hear a tune, m'lady?"

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 May 2014 00:30 (nine years ago) link

i am completely unclear on how any of these guys have careers

― call all destroyer, Thursday, May 15, 2014 7:28 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think they have pretty loyal live audiences plus I think they get a lot of money from gear/guitar/amp sponsors and also do live "clinics"

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 May 2014 00:30 (nine years ago) link

what kind of music is this even?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWPLaY9SyOY

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 May 2014 00:32 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC60XNiS-MQ
Paul Gilbert

the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 16 May 2014 00:32 (nine years ago) link

ladies and gentlemen...Popa Chubby

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufwGhOUy1Jw

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 May 2014 00:33 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS_IYe5JTZ4
yngwie malmsteen of course

the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 16 May 2014 00:33 (nine years ago) link

THE GREATEST BASS SOLO EVER

http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnq3ZW6OyTI

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 May 2014 00:33 (nine years ago) link

Billy Sheehan

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 May 2014 00:33 (nine years ago) link

Buckethead until Axl snatched him up

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 May 2014 00:34 (nine years ago) link

who am i to disagree

the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 16 May 2014 00:34 (nine years ago) link

it's the greatest

the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 16 May 2014 00:34 (nine years ago) link

allan holdsworth's hands are actually scary

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 May 2014 00:35 (nine years ago) link

will jazz ppl get offended if I say Stanley Clarke and Jaco Pastorious?

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 May 2014 00:35 (nine years ago) link

My roommate (and one of my best friends) bought this in college and we would watch it regularly

http://i.imgur.com/1rtzXKx.jpg

, Friday, 16 May 2014 00:35 (nine years ago) link

Bela Fleck

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 May 2014 00:36 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4emJASIuYA
JEFF BECK

Spottie, Friday, 16 May 2014 00:36 (nine years ago) link

man i've known for quite some time that steve vai has a song called 'bad horsie' but never in a million years would i have guessed that it actually featured real horse sound effects

the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 16 May 2014 00:37 (nine years ago) link

frank gambale is a really good one.

jeff beck's inclusion makes me sad, but yeah

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 May 2014 00:37 (nine years ago) link

Shawn Lane

http://i.imgur.com/exhhOoZ.png

, Friday, 16 May 2014 00:38 (nine years ago) link

jeff beck has good stuff

Spottie, Friday, 16 May 2014 00:38 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0d1HilfLxA

trower

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 May 2014 00:38 (nine years ago) link

Jason Becker (man, totally sucks about his ALS :( )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTx0ms0tfCE

, Friday, 16 May 2014 00:39 (nine years ago) link

yeah beck's weird cuz he started out in real stuff and then kinda turned into this

he rules obv in yardbirds and jeff beck group and even though his early solo albums sort of birthed this whole genre they are good

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 May 2014 00:39 (nine years ago) link

pains me to say this as a good ilx brigade member but Leo Kottke

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 May 2014 00:40 (nine years ago) link

Ralph Macchio

the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 16 May 2014 00:40 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGWfDkx4zyY

al dimeola

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 May 2014 00:42 (nine years ago) link

yes!

the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 16 May 2014 00:44 (nine years ago) link

who are you, al?!

the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 16 May 2014 00:44 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIFC0LOmJ_g

steve lukather

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 May 2014 00:47 (nine years ago) link

feel that this stuff would be easier to understand if it wasn't posing as music, it seems to work with an entirely different set of aesthetic criteria than anything i know and like as music.

Merdeyeux, Friday, 16 May 2014 00:51 (nine years ago) link

i am scanning through guitar player's features archive and in jan 2014 i found a page with lukather, satriani, holdsworth, and lukather again.

it's been 15 years since i read this magazine!

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 May 2014 00:52 (nine years ago) link

wow

the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 16 May 2014 00:54 (nine years ago) link

tommy emmanuel

missingNO, Friday, 16 May 2014 01:11 (nine years ago) link

i ended up watching this whole thing on palladia HD once, so ridiculous

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ik0T9ivZVhk

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 May 2014 01:28 (nine years ago) link

Jennifer Batton - she was Michael Jackson's guitarist for awhile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewxQqpXprNA

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 May 2014 01:30 (nine years ago) link

Doug Mark's and his "Metal Method", I used to see those ads

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mpfFiYgaEs

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 May 2014 01:30 (nine years ago) link

did anyone notice the thing where every few months these magazines featured a sitarist no one had ever heard of who was working on some kind of sitar-blues fusion thing?

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 May 2014 01:31 (nine years ago) link

All my knowledge of this stuff is secondhand but these types of instruments were a regular staple of guitar mags right

http://www.stick.com/instruments/

, Friday, 16 May 2014 01:33 (nine years ago) link

B-b-but what about their respective versions of “Shake Sugaree”?

If I were a POLL I’d be Zinging (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 June 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link

five months pass...

I get it too Eddie. But part of being a total musician is embracing all music and diving down the musical rabbit holes. I’ve listened to BB King to EVH to Frank Sinatra and back. I was 17 too but I knew Ron Wood played bass with the Jeff Beck Group. https://t.co/bSD1NshzWg

— Joe Bonamassa (Official) (@JBONAMASSA) December 3, 2019

☮ (peace, man), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:27 (four years ago) link

I bet he knew "I've Got My Own Album to Do" back-to-front at 17 too.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:30 (four years ago) link

pls to post on this, ilx's premier dedicated joe bonamassa fan thread

OFFICAL ILX JOE BONAMASSA CELEBRATION THREAD

A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:31 (four years ago) link

Oh thanks, I forgot that that glorious tribute existed.

☮ (peace, man), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:36 (four years ago) link

five months pass...

Been listening to Plini a lot lately, who I gather is one of these guys for the 2010s. Just these epic proggy fusion shredfests with a basis in math-rock and post-rock and are really well-composed (i.e. I rarely feel like my interest is waning).

To be honest, I haven't actually listened to a lot of the guitarists listed in this thread, so maybe this is more my thing than I have previously thought. For example as a kid I know that I liked Steve Vai with David Lee Roth, but got bored pretty quickly when I listened to Passion & Warfare. I probably should go back and relisten so I can figure out if I need to buy a headless fanned-fret guitar or something pointy with a floyd rose

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvN7Af40Wi4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aquJicmrjJE

peace, man, Saturday, 9 May 2020 21:08 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Steve Vai — "Teeth of the Hydra" (2022)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46qjDJ0lLdE

Didn't know where else to post, but needs to be documented because that is some ridiculous nonsense. Just, what?!

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 01:58 (two years ago) link

:D

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 02:26 (two years ago) link

Lol that popped up on my YouTube feed the other day. Have you seen the bad deepfake Satriani cover?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13c0WULP1Ik

calstars, Wednesday, 6 April 2022 02:28 (two years ago) link

Disappointed in the lack of flames shooting out from behind Vai in that video.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 02:32 (two years ago) link

I feel like Tosin Abasi is one of the contemporary equivalents of these guys - monstrous guitarist, but I cannot bring myself to listen to his music

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 02:39 (two years ago) link

Is it okay for me to laugh uncontrollably at, like, all of these guys?

I mean they're obviously really good, but c'mon.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 02:48 (two years ago) link

Oh man, in the Vai video, 4:33 in ( when there could be silence…) he does this little sitar fill on the fretless part of the top neck… actual LoL.

Wonder if he can bang out the Third Man theme on the zither part?

bendy, Wednesday, 6 April 2022 04:04 (two years ago) link

Hard to imagine a more Steve vai video

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 04:17 (two years ago) link

I feel like Tosin Abasi is one of the contemporary equivalents of these guys - monstrous guitarist, but I cannot bring myself to listen to his music

Yeah, shred v much alive and well. Guthrie Govan is my younger cousin's fave.

Sarah Longfield is by far my favourite artist connected to the contemporary YouTube shred scene. She's a multi-instrumentalist/composer from Wisconsin who integrates two-handed 8-string tapping into pretty electro-prog songs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL5q_MEg3RQ

And liberty she pirouette (Sund4r), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 12:52 (two years ago) link

The Vai thing is cool tbh. More like Jeff Beck than Yngwie.

And liberty she pirouette (Sund4r), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 12:52 (two years ago) link

Austin is correct. You can kinda admire the craft but there is no fuckin way I will like sit down and LISTEN to this as if it were music.

Any more than I would, like, watch Olympic pole vaulting. Yes, you're skilled. Good for you.

But no, I don't care about this activity, so I won't spend my limited leisure time consuming recordings of it.

Would 100% prefer to hear the Eagles or Billy Joel or Phil Collins or whatever, for the thousandth time, than check out an allegedly "amazing" guitar player who is very skilled but who has yet to elicit emotions from someone other than guitar nerds, thxbye

So's your imam (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 15:50 (two years ago) link

Any more than I would, like, watch Olympic pole vaulting. Yes, you're skilled. Good for you.

I mean, call me back if Steve Vai puts on a cute little pair of shorts and starts flying through the air.

peace, man, Wednesday, 6 April 2022 15:56 (two years ago) link

Oh cool Sund4r, I haven't watched any of her stuff but I think she lives in my town and is friends with some friends.

Re: Vai, he's not even triggering the drum parts with his feet, lame.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 16:11 (two years ago) link

I feel like Tosin Abasi is one of the contemporary equivalents of these guys - monstrous guitarist, but I cannot bring myself to listen to his music
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, April 5, 2022 9:39 PM (two days ago)

A few years ago, I went to see Buke & Gase at a venue in Minneapolis called the Skyway, and one of the opening acts was Animals As Leaders (who I got really into after seeing live). After the show, my first thought was “This was a show totally curated for this very thread! Too bad we no longer have the music media landscape of the 90s.”

I’m imagining Guitar World giving us a 2-page photo essay featuring the Aron(e)’s titular buke and gase, with Wolf Marshall explaining how he had to invent the nomenclature to describe the transcription of the 'gase' part for “No Land”; then after a brief article by whomever would function as today's version of John Petrucci (I dont know, maybe HH Hendrix from Liturgy?), we’d find a double-interview feature where Deafheaven's Kerry McCoy and H.E.R. get all anarchic with Animals as Leaders’ string-savants* Tosin and Javier Reyes.

*Actual term used in a review of a Dream Theater album!

Front-loaded albums are musical gerrymandering (Prefecture), Friday, 8 April 2022 00:14 (two years ago) link

The way you know a wanky shredder has made it these days is that they have their own NeuralDSP guitar modeling plugin

https://neuraldsp.com/plugins/archetype-abasi
https://neuraldsp.com/plugins/archetype-plini

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 8 April 2022 00:35 (two years ago) link

https://www.guitarworld.com/tag/tosin-abasi

https://www.guitarworld.com/author/tosin-abasi

― And liberty she pirouette (Sund4r), Thursday, April 7, 2022 7:32 PM (one hour ago)

HOLY APEIROPHOBIA!

Front-loaded albums are musical gerrymandering (Prefecture), Friday, 8 April 2022 01:44 (two years ago) link

The Vai thing is cool tbh. More like Jeff Beck than Yngwie.

― And liberty she pirouette (Sund4r), Wednesday, April 6, 2022 1:52 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

i legit enjoyed the vai video haha, it is pretty cool! i know nothing about guitarists or shred but i mean it's just so baroque in its dweebiness, and vai is 61 years old!!!! what's not to love lol.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Friday, 8 April 2022 02:17 (two years ago) link

i guess that guitar must miraculously not be that heavy because otherwise i'm not sure how his back could handle it

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Friday, 8 April 2022 02:19 (two years ago) link

and vai is 61 years old!!!! what's not to love lol.

― the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, April 7, 2022 7:17 PM

HE DOES JAZZ HANDS MULTIPLE TIMES

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Friday, 8 April 2022 02:28 (two years ago) link

Yeah if these guys are gonna do this stuff they might as well lean into the ridiculousness and make it fun, not that's it's gonna, y'know, sound any better

Occasionally if I go down a bit of a gearhead wormhole on youtube I start getting recommendations for this Ichika Nito/Tim Henson type shit which is I guess the millennial evolution of this stuff, lots of clever harmonics and insanely skilful jumping around the fretboard, but also completely joyless and pedantic

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Friday, 8 April 2022 17:15 (two years ago) link

lean into the ridiculousness and make it fun

Unfortunately, for many technically-skilled musicians this translates as "ape Zappa".

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 8 April 2022 17:32 (two years ago) link

Animals as Leaders is totally Dream Theater for the youtube generation, I hate it

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 8 April 2022 17:42 (two years ago) link

its unlistenable

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Friday, 8 April 2022 17:45 (two years ago) link

Anyone else think Vai looks kinda like Corey Feldman in that clip?

peace, man, Friday, 8 April 2022 17:50 (two years ago) link

I tried listening to a bunch of these albums. Honestly I would like a lot of them if the drums sounded better. I really wanted this one to be good:

https://i.discogs.com/u_oRG-VzAZvbBDLLAtnJaWbLazRtojbrG6odVYroUQ4/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:600/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTE3MjEy/ODYtMTQ2NzEyMzIw/My05MzQxLmpwZWc.jpeg

brimstead, Friday, 8 April 2022 18:03 (two years ago) link

I remember that one, damn

calstars, Friday, 8 April 2022 18:46 (two years ago) link

They would have way more strings now

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 8 April 2022 18:49 (two years ago) link

Yeah, my friend's family's record store stocked that one when I was in high school.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 8 April 2022 20:18 (two years ago) link

Their second one sounds marginally better. I loved that all that Shrapnel records stuff in the nineties when I was fifteen and a young aspiring metal guitar player. Anyone remember Greg Howe? He went the fusion way and is still pretty active. His album Tilt, which he made with Ritchie Kotzen who by then was also trying to get away from just shredding, features some insane soloing if you're into the ten thousand notes per second thing - which I kind of still am.

One lesser talked about but also very revered in shred guitar circles is the album Truth in Shredding by Frank Gambale, Brett Garsed and Shawn Lane (the most shreddy of all shredders).

I know way too much about this stuff.

Marty8501 (Marty Innerlogic), Saturday, 9 April 2022 15:03 (two years ago) link

The "lean into it and make it fun" schtick can descend into bacon territory pretty quickly, although I have a soft spot for Batio.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 9 April 2022 16:02 (two years ago) link

Speaking of Kotzen, I was just checking out The Winery Dogs, which is his trio with Billy Sheehan and Mike Portnoy. The downsides are the godawful band name, the trips into blues-rock territory. Kotzen's vocals - which waver between budget Chris Cornell and Sammy Hagar - could be better sometimes, could be worse. But I think their hard rock numbers are pretty fun, and use their combined virtuosities to complement the songs. Serviceable hard rock with pyrotechnics for flavor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SoTgZjokLU

peace, man, Saturday, 9 April 2022 16:03 (two years ago) link

lol at the slow mo shred shot at 1:37.

honestly i enjoy that song more than anything on the last mastodon album lol

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Saturday, 9 April 2022 21:49 (two years ago) link

dat bass face @ 1:21

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 9 April 2022 22:36 (two years ago) link

haha wow, you're not kidding re: cornell aping.

that is like, recognizable as a song though. it has parts and a melody and generally makes sense.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 10 April 2022 00:30 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

Next level

calstars, Monday, 15 April 2024 19:20 (four days ago) link

"Can you show me on the doll where rock touched you?"

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 12:03 (three days ago) link


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