Michael Jackson: Classic or Dud?

Michael Jackson: Child Molester or Pedophile?

Add on top of that the fact that in real life he's such a freakshow that punks and anarchists everywhere shuld curl up and die with envy, and there's really no question.

OTM. IMO GG Allin has got nothing on Michael Jackson. While obviously MJ is less of a freak than GG, dude went from being the most famous person in the world to a freaky looking creep and child molester, and has lost probably millions of fans as a result: it's not how low you go but how far you fall.

Good lord, who cares that MJ out-freaks an idiot like GG Allin? Is that supposed to be a compliment?

While the court cases have definitely mattered and cause his downfall, they are not the main reason. I think a lot of people are able to say that, well, he seems kind of weird and maybe even creepy, but he was found innocent, and then he should be viewed as innocent.

His downfall has more to do with the constantly detoriating quality of his output. "Off The Wall", "Thriller" and even "Bad" were all fantastic. "Dangerous" and "HIStory" were not, but still quite good. But then, "Invincible" contained hardly anything of value at all.

I think what he would need now is to do an album with Quincy Jones again. Q has earlier showed the ability to get the best of him, and also to take influence from current music, but without losing sense of the typical Jackson style. If the music holds up, people (well, not all, but most) can forgive him for being creepy as long as he isn't proven creepy in an illegal way.

The BBC got approx. 9000 hits over the weekend for people typing in "bbc.co.uk/O_2" presumably in an effort to find out ticket information

Touring your old hits is always a secure way of getting income for somebody whose artistic prime was in the past. Just as Rolling Stones or AC/DC.

Agree with Geir. But I feel as if those first two MJ albums were mostly inspired by the (at the time) new drum machines and synths. I don't know how easily MJ could return to that sound.

Although, looking at shots of his home studio, it looks like MJ's got an eye for "old school"... I saw Distressors and an MPC-60. Chouette!

Regarding his creepiness. After watching that Bashir documentary, I found him to be far less creepy than expected. Considering that he's an extremely famous, vitiligo'd, surgery addicted, child-abused, multi-millionaire, gay dad and (chaste) pederast, he seemed kind of... normal? Like he'd be fun at a dinner party? Bashir, on the other hand, would have two glasses of wine and start talking about boning chicks.

pretty amazing how often the phrase child molester appeared in the thread despite the second case being thrown out, and the first never going to criminal court (and rumors flying that Jordan Chandler may come forward and say the allegations were false)....

Your post and this one are the only two times the words "child molester" are in this thread.

WS!

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Your post and this one are the only two times the words "child molester" are in this thread.

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Michael Jackson: Child Molester or Pedophile?

― ilxor, Sunday, March 8, 2009 11:19 AM (4 months ago) Bookmark

OTM. IMO GG Allin has got nothing on Michael Jackson. While obviously MJ is less of a freak than GG, dude went from being the most famous person in the world to a freaky looking creep and child molester, and has lost probably millions of fans as a result: it's not how low you go but how far you fall.

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he really did like that massive going up a key thing like in man in the mirror didnt he? listening to a lot of songs i didnt really play that much before, ive noticed he uses it a lot. you are not alone, earth song (i think), heal the world, i think he ruined quite a few otherwise good songs with this device.

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he mostly did that on his ballads, yea.....course God knows many of those weren't penned by him, and that's a device the Diane Warrens of the world live by. (not that he ever used her to my knowledge but that's besides the point)

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"While obviously MJ is less of a freak than GG"

GG's freakishness is completely explicable given his horrible but probably not too uncommon upbringing. MJ's freakishness is kind of singular.

At the very least, GG had nothing to hide. Hell, he was damn proud of his....ummm... indiscretions.

so are most neo-Nazis....big deal

and MJ didn't molest nobody. INNOCENT!11!!1111

pass the Jesus Juice.

I just shit.

Who is "WS!" and why is he eating himself and not me?

Kind of amazing hair-on-fire footage

rage, the national broadcaster's late-night clips show over here, are playing pretty much everything tonight in order.

That's a shame.

haha, oh alex.

COUNTDOWN - 2nd September 1984 Thriller Dance Competition

^^ have big hopes that this will bring the lols.

i want to find my disc 2 of HIStory. it ain't bad like everybody says.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsEQU_237cM

Michael Jackson's previously unreleased anti-abortion song, "Song Groove (Abortion Papers)". On the 25th anniversary edition of Bad.

Sister don't read, she'll never know
What about love?
Living a Christian soul
What do we get, she runs away
What about love?
What about all I pray

Don't know the worst, she knows a atheist
What about God?
Living is all I see
What do you get, things she would say
What about love?
That's all I pray

Those abortion papers
Signed in your name against the words of God
Those abortion papers
Think about life, I'd like to have my child

Sister confused, she went alone
What about love?
What about all I saw?
Biding a life, reading the words
Singing a song, citing a Bible verse

Father's confused, mother despair
Brother's in curse
What about all I've seen?
You know the lie, you keep it low
What about heart?
That's all I've known

Those abortion papers
(Hee-Hee Hee Hee-Hee)
(Hee Hee-Hee Hee Hee-Hee)
Those abortion papers (Hee-Hee Hee Hee-Hee)
I'd like to have my child (Hee-Hee Hee Hee-Hee)
Those abortion papers (Hee-Hee Hee Hee-Hee)
(Hee-Hee Hee-Hee).

Those abortion papers
(Hee-Hee Hee Hee-Hee)

lol that atheist line cannot be right but still, what

I can't make out what the word is there but it's definitely not "atheist"

One of the best pop voices ever. 9 or 10 excellent songs. No masterpiece albums. Incredible stage presence...perhaps best ever. Career went to shit after 1982 in terms of song quality. I'd still undoubtedly say classic.

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Here are twenty-five, uh, jams.

Nice list!!

Mine would include Remember the Time in the top 10 i think -- one of my faves to dance to

and I have a terrible soft spot for Man in the Mirror - i think it's just how high he goes in the chorus, it gets me

I like it better as I age. I need to make a....CHANGE.

Before I click on this, I hope to see 'Stranger In Moscow' on there...

...and it is! :D

"who is it" too low

what number is higher than #1

I am really missing the full-on melodrama of Earth Song in this list

DJP: "WHAT ABOUT 'EARTH SONG'!?"
Backing singers: "WHAAAAT ABOOUT IT!?!"

loooool

#1 and #2 really the truly acceptable choices for those slots.

nice choices from Off the Wall, and Leave Me Alone is a sentimental fav cos the tune goes through my head whenever I'm aggravated.

sad at the lack of "Another Part of Me" tho. but maybe we didn't all love CAptain EO

I will argue until the day that I die that "The Way You Make Me Feel" is his most underrated single (followed very closely by "Who Is It")

I remember me and my brother making one of those silly joke recordings where you record interviews and use fragments of song recordings to answer questions, and using "Who Is It?" as one of the samples for someone answering the door.

it's also a killer song.

Dangerous as a whole I always remembered as this forgettable album and it's true it doesn't quite have the hooks of previous Jackson, but it's a serious classic. "Why You Wanna Trip On Me" goes hard. some of the hip-hoppy shit around the nu-jack swing makes it sound dated (well, as does the new-jack swing itself), but idk, New Jack Swing is always welcome nostalgia for me.

"Heal the World" can get fucked tho.