A Thread For Starting Pitchers That Are Doing Really Well

Always nice to see Dave Stieb's name come up in the news.

Johnny Cueto has been excellent so far this year a bit in the shadow of Fernandez, but really better.

1.43 ERA
0.73 WHIP
.138 BAA

That reds bullpen tho. 6-11 in one run games. That would make me lose my mind.

The ESPN panel blamed Ortiz's hit on the shift:

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/47086/yu-darvish-falls-just-short-of-making-history

Freeze the clip at 1:07 to get a good wide shot. I guess playing normally, the second baseman's a few steps back and towards first and would have had it?

welp - Fernandez got knocked around last night by the Padres pretty good... Cueto now stands alone!

poor dave stieb. that dude was an incredible pitcher, though. he was the guy that during his era, he really felt like one of the five best pitchers in the game pretty consistently. he always seemed to be impressive out on the mound. it's funny how diminished his rep is (in large part due to the win/loss record) but he's kinda the poor man's blyleven and he was miles better than jack morris.

I think his reputation's largely been restored the past few years thanks to newer metrics. He's one of a floating group of pitchers who regularly get mentioned as the best pitchers not in the HOF: him, Kevin Brown, Rick Reuschel, David Cone, a few others.

If you want a strange season, look at Stieb's 1985. Division winner, leads the league in ERA, 14-13.

there were a lot of pitchers from this era who were almost all exceptionally good but for a brief period of time, mostly early to mid-'80s, and they're almost all forgotten now except by baseball heads. mario soto, john candelaria, steve rogers, a few others. i think a lot of the dudes who came to prominence in the latter part of the '80s really stole their thunder either through being so much better or just being on bigger teams (gooden, clemens, hershiser, saberhagen, viola, dave stewart, even bob welch with that ridic 27-6 season he had.) stieb and those others were pretty much the best in the game during their time but their time and their results and their teams were not really as thrilling, i guess.

Almost none of the great pitchers from the late-70's and early-80's had long careers (Jack Morris is an exception, of course), for reasons that I don't think are clear. Their reputations have been hurt by some of the really embarrassing Cy Young votes in that time -- Stieb, Tanana, and Reuschel all probably should have won at some point in their careers.

hometown bullshit reversed

http://espn.go.com/dallas/mlb/story/_/id/10931361/major-league-baseball-changes-david-ortiz-play-error-hit-yu-darvish-no-hit-bid

That Josh Beckett fellow

These Phillies broadcasters are saying "no hitter" a lot.

One out to go...

walked hiiiim

I don't know about that one...anyway, way to go.

Yeah that last strike seemed low

ryu

Wouldn't it be the first back to back no-no?

Double in the 8th.

Pitching no-hit ball through five innings, Tim Lincecum was lifted after 96 pitches and the Giants went on to beat the Cubs 5-0.

not sure that 96 pitches/52 strikes/4 walks over five innings is 'doing really well'

yeah true, but it was a no hitter but Bochy took him out and should have.

wish more managers did it after 7

chris sale has given up four hits in his last 25 innings

15 strikeouts for felix through seven

why did they take him out after 7 with only 100 pitches?

Also, this is a thread for in-progress no-hitters.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:43 PM (1 month ago)

I went looking back through the thread for the first half of that quote--thought someone had undergone a life-changing conversion.

hahaha

i mean i think even morbs would have been ok with leaving him in there -- it was a 1 run game at the time and it's not like he was chasing a no hitter

Kershaw thru 6 vs Rockies

much more psyched that my HACKING MASS pitcher De La Rosa got rocked

kershaw lol xp

i hilariously forgot to start kershaw in one of my leagues today, along with sonny gray (7ip 2 ER)

Vin was anticipating this after 4

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-most-perfect-non-perfect-game/

Second highest 9-inning Game Score after Kerry Wood's 20 K game.

Park-adjust for Coors and it's a 67.

those last 3 hitters -- i don't think I'd heard of any of em?

guy with great seat sees 56 of the 107 pitches

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=23940

A Facebook friend got invited along by a friend the day of. Not bad timing--sees one of the handful of greatest-pitched games ever.

Park-adjust for Coors and it's a 67.

― Andy K, Thursday, June 19, 2014 9:42 AM (Yesterday)

you mean for dodger stadium?

timmy through seven

just hit a rope to left field too

and w/out the advantage of facing Gyorko and Alonso

game is streaming for free on mlb.com btw

through 8

timmy trying to no hit the shittiest offense ever assembled in the modern era

lol, at petco park, no less

just got a strike call at the letters

man, remember when this guy used to be really good?

yes

97 pitches--Morbius is giving him three to get the side out.