Rolling Metal Thread 2014

I remember the first time I heard Anthems, I made a dubbed copy from mp3s, and then I told this guy "man, I can't hear the fucking vocals, this must be a shitty mp3", so I bought it and was like I STILL CAN'T HEAR THE VOCALS

Trivium have fired their drummer in the middle of their current tour.

I don't get it. After 20 years, doesn't Opeth have a manager to do that stuff? Hire an artist, put some concept drawings in front of his face for approval, etc.? Should we have an Opeth cover design contest? ;)

Now on to "laser metal." Any thoughts? I was excited by this:

NIGHTSATAN AND THE LOOPS OF DOOM is a post- apocalyptic science fiction thriller emerging from the wicked brain of visionary writer/ director CHRZU. Set in the Finnish province of Karelia in the year 2034, the amazing adventure features cannibalism, graphic violence, stunning visual lore and a synth score paying tribute to the classic works of John Carpenter and Goblin. It is a thoroughly original nod to the Italian genre cinema of the 1980's, with a hint or two of Alejandro Jodorowsky thrown in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opD1q0KDzZY

http://svartrecords.bandcamp.com/album/nightsatan-and-the-loops-of-doom

However, not feelin' the electro soundtrack.

I don't get it. After 20 years, doesn't Opeth have a manager to do that stuff? Hire an artist, put some concept drawings in front of his face for approval, etc.? Should we have an Opeth cover design contest? ;)

Nothing gets done without Mikael; Opeth is a (mostly) benevolent dictatorship.

not going to make Deathfest this year after all :/. Nocturnus AD is playing their own show in town tomorrow but I'm in a production atm and won't get out in time to see them I don't think :(

You guys were right about the new 'Topsy, it's great.

kind of an anemic snare sound

Every classic metal band was "terrible music made for teens" once upon a time.

you understand that this is a false equivalency, right? "every classical metal band was 'terrible music for teens' once upon a time. Therefore, all terrible music made for teens is good!'"

me i'll be waiting around for the critical rehabilitation of i declare war

you understand that this is a false equivalency, right? "every classical metal band was 'terrible music for teens' once upon a time. Therefore, all terrible music made for teens is good!'"

More like "Therefore, all terrible music made for teens deserves the same chance to become revered classic material 25-30 years down the road." My point is, metalheads in their late 30s/early 40s (like me!) hate Emmure and I Declare War just like my mom hated Judas Priest and AC/DC.

Anthems is my favourite Emperor album

Emmure and co are not comparable to priest and ac/dc, lol

Emmure and co are not comparable to priest and ac/dc, lol

Please to explain. Show your work.

black metal sounds best when it sounds like it's playing out of a soda can imo

dude, neanderthal, speaking of dubbing mp3s, did you ever send dubbed cassette tapes to some dude on #mp3death? like celestial seasonings, nokturnal mortum, etc?

alright everyone, homework time - please set a google calendar reminder to bump this thread in 25-30 years to let us know if you think emmure are as cool as priest or just a bunch of dicks

Shouldn't Warrant and Poison et al be as cool as priest or ac/dc by now then using phil's "logic"?

"all shitty music deserves a chance to be good"

dude, neanderthal, speaking of dubbing mp3s, did you ever send dubbed cassette tapes to some dude on #mp3death? like celestial seasonings, nokturnal mortum, etc?

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sadly no. I often got banned for getting in arguments w/ Postmortem or the other AOPs about stuff.

when you were Desantnik, did you ever give crap to a guy named Hell_Awaits for liking "crap like Slayer" and talk about how horrible King Diamond was? and praise Shostakovich? I remember this one argument I had vividly and can't remember if that's who it was with lol

Shouldn't Warrant and Poison et al be as cool as priest or ac/dc by now then using phil's "logic"?

That's not the point he's making - he's comparing the notion of parents in the '80s being repulsed by ANY metal in the '80s (from Priest to Warrant to Twisted Sister, whatever) to people today crapping on deathcore because it's music for lunkheads, 'how the hell can kids today listen to that garbage?', etc etc. It's fair to imagine a scenario where today's ostensibly awful stuff might find a place in tomorrow's cultural cannon.

As for the stance itself, if you want to criticise it rather than just dismiss it, I think you'd have to get more specific: parents back then were repulsed by what they didn't understand (and unfortunately had people like Tipper Gore around to explain it to them); I'm not sure there's a similar lack of understanding around deathcore beyond an intense dislike for the music. I mean, people here would still hate it without the misogyny, right?

Canon not cannon, sigh.

the negative reaction to deathcore (as well as many of the 'cores' themselves) is largely because many of these bands merely take the broad strokes of metal ('LOUD, SCREAMED VOCALS', 'CHUGGA CHUGGA BREAKDOWNS', 'ANGRY LYRICS') and creating their music based on those superficial elements alone.

I mean, people said those things about 80s metal in comparison to 70s heavy rock or prog too. (Some people still feel that way about a lot of 80s stuff.) But I don't really think 'this might be canonized in the future' is a very strong reason to not criticize something, especially if it is blatantly misogynist.

I just wish everybody would go back to dutifully worshipping Satan

OTM

Done!

http://www.stereogum.com/1678536/qa-michael-gira-of-swans-on-to-be-kind-proper-crowdfunding-and-the-human-voice/franchises/interview/

sund4r otm of course

will haven has entered the studio... fucking stoked!!!

from the guitar nerd side, enjoying that asshole from Vik guitars get owned for posting a dumb homophobic reaction on facebook to the dude from Cynic coming out, including a couple important in the djent sense endorsers publicly yanking their names from his list

xp to Neanderthal, yes ... yes that was probably me if you're talking about Shostakovitch. and I totally hated King Diamond back then, but Melissa's probably one of my favorite 80s metal albums now, oddly enough.

heres a link to info on the story. what a fucking dolt.

http://www.metalsucks.net/2014/05/13/vik-guitars-founders-homophobic-comments-rile-members-periphery-scar-symmetry/

from the guitar nerd side, enjoying that asshole from Vik guitars get owned for posting a dumb homophobic reaction on facebook to the dude from Cynic coming out, including a couple important in the djent sense endorsers publicly yanking their names from his list

Awesome, glad to hear the endorsers are making him suffer, if even only a little.

every time the metal community openly and generally says go yuck yourself to a homophobe, i get a little more spring in my step. def made some forward progress there, although still miles to go obv

Yeah, long road ahead still, but it's heartening when comment threads like that feature LGBQT supporters vastly outnumbering the homophobes.

Scrolling endlessly for 2014 recs

can't find any

:(

(Not counting Triptykon. Listened to that one. So good)

new Coffinworm album got a couple mentions upthread but no one really said they liked it so let me be the first in thread to say I really like the new Coffinworm album

New Agalloch is awesome. New Floor and Eyehategod albums are very good too

i liked that ok on first listen, haven't really been in the headspace for oppressive blackened sludge noise whatever tho

really the only thing of all i've heard so far this year that has grabbed me for much repeat listening is the coffin dust album.

been enjoying the new autopsy though, imagining chris reifert as the world's best muppet

new swans will once again be of crossover metal interest per uszh

Coffinworm is great! Waiting for my package with the Agalloch to arrive this week.

Floor is really good, but I'm not super blown away by it. Just sounds like Brooks doin' what Brooks does best, a Torche-ier version of Floor.

The Lord Mantis album is really great, though I wish I hadn't read the lyrics.

why? what are the lyrics?

offensive, google it

thanks everyone.

needed some music while i work today

SubRosa and The Atlas Moth coming around on tour with Boris. And they're playing Manhattan, not Brooklyn. I might actually make it to that show. (I'll probably leave early, of course - Boris is pronounced "bore-us" as far as I'm concerned.)

Scrolling endlessly for 2014 recs

can't find any

:(

Behemoth? That's probably second to Triptykon of albums I've heard.

heavy stuff i like that came out this year, in vaguely approximate order of preference, as of now-ish:

Woods of Desolation
Nux Vomica
Alcest (not heavy, but including anyway)
Skull Fist
Thou
Stoneburner
Agalloch
Young Widows
Thantifaxath
Floor
Pontiak
Satan's Satyrs

should probably hear the Triptykon

The Oath, Wounded Kings, Conan. Also check out 11 Paranoias, really cool spacey death metal out of the UK. The new album's very good.

http://ritualproductions.bandcamp.com/album/spectralbeastiaries

Scrolling endlessly for 2014 recs

there really ain't much besides the Autopsy and Nux Vomica so far imo. Oh and the Tuomas Holopainen album which is very much not for everybody. I haven't given the new Epica enough of a chance maybe. Gonna pick up the Triptykon when I get a chance.

I forgot Wounded Kings in my list

i did like the thou a lot, and indian (more respected/feared than liked), but they've been off my system for a while