Adam is insanely hot imo.
― Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Friday, 9 May 2014 14:46 (nine years ago) link
dude has eclipsed Lisa Germano as most famous person from my hometown
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 9 May 2014 15:06 (nine years ago) link
He's bad in the Major Barbara scenes and it is intentional but it's not successfull. He doesn't pull it off but that's possibly the directors fault or just the fault of the filming schedule.
― i lost my shoes on acid (jed_), Friday, 16 May 2014 00:52 (nine years ago) link
These things take time.
― i lost my shoes on acid (jed_), Friday, 16 May 2014 00:53 (nine years ago) link
jfc
http://defamer.gawker.com/lena-dunham-starts-brooklyns-newest-trend-salad-for-do-1576484897/
― some dude, Friday, 16 May 2014 00:54 (nine years ago) link
that article and every comment on it makes me deeply miserable and I have nothing else to say about it
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Friday, 16 May 2014 01:14 (nine years ago) link
sorry for hurting Hurting
― some dude, Friday, 16 May 2014 01:38 (nine years ago) link
Just finally finished S3. I honestly feel like Andrew Rannellis might be the best thing about this show at this point.
― 'arry Goldman (Hurting 2), Saturday, 12 July 2014 04:02 (nine years ago) link
They really went all-in on the Hannah and Marnie being terrible people thing huh
― 'arry Goldman (Hurting 2), Saturday, 12 July 2014 05:04 (nine years ago) link
i've had the last five episodes on my tivo since they aired; the season they all got jobs and started boring lives was the season they lost my attention
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 12 July 2014 05:33 (nine years ago) link
I didn't know Andrew Rannells was in the original cast of The Book of Mormon; he's replacing NP Harris as Hedwig on Broadway in a few weeks. He massively irritates me.
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 12 July 2014 08:51 (nine years ago) link
thought s3 was good but reading this thread is absolutely the most frustrating experience.
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 1 September 2014 14:13 (nine years ago) link
I didn't believe that. It made her decision too simple. Art or Mammon? Hmm, which shall it be? In reality people do both. I suppose I've never believed her memoir sounded good or necessary so I found her puritanical response especially hard to take.
― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Tuesday, February 25, 2014 8:24 AM (6 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
not if they want to be any good at one of them
Her NYer piece last week was alright if a bit by the numbers. Not sure what she expects us to take away from it. Seems a bit like writing as therapy. Which is fine, but keep it to yourself. When you share that kind of stuff, does it lose its efficacy?
― calstars, Monday, 1 September 2014 14:30 (nine years ago) link
Oh no, oh nohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI6oZNofy_0
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 6 November 2014 16:47 (nine years ago) link
oh waithttp://gawker.com/zosia-mamets-pre-fame-rap-video-would-mortify-even-shos-1654811659/+maxread
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 6 November 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link
on the one hand, the breitbart agenda here is pretty loathsome, but this exchange between the writer and a current Oberlin student is pretty fucked imo:
"What you're looking for," Ms. Hess informed me, "could create a conflict of interest on campus regarding sexual assault.""I'm not sure what you mean.""People here are less interested in justice for this kind of crime and more interested in helping the victim. I'm not psyched to help you do this.""You can look at everything I've thus far written about this. We just want to know the truth.""Asking whether or not a victim is telling the truth is irrelevant," Ms. Hess proclaimed. "It's just not important if they are telling the truth. If this person had wanted criminal justice they would have pursued it."
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2014/12/03/investigation-lena-dunhams-republican-rapist-story-falls-apart-under-scrutiny
it doesn't matter if she's telling the truth??? breitbart sucks and i can't stand all the conservative white men who get so riled up and angry by Dunham's existence, but "it doesn't matter if she's telling the truth"??????????
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 4 December 2014 17:59 (nine years ago) link
you're a moron
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Thursday, 4 December 2014 18:05 (nine years ago) link
yes i know i am, i'm not disputing anything in Dunham's book (which i loved), but doesn't it matter if someone is telling the truth about a rape? that's important right? i'm not being glib - the whole notion that this needed to be investigated by breitbart is completely ridiculous, but I am having a hard time wrapping my head around "It's just not important if they are telling the truth." i don't think she's lying, and all the discrepancies the writer points out are so flimsy, like "oh, he actually didn't have a mustache and purple pants" and "he graduated a semester later than Dunham said." it's an obnoxious hit piece. "Asking whether or not a victim is telling the truth is irrelevant" - i completely agree this is not something you ask a victim, but "It's just not important if they are telling the truth" - wtf? it isn't??
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 4 December 2014 18:23 (nine years ago) link
you, like breitbart.com, are misapprehending the context of that quote and also attaching importance to what this one person says for reasons that remain unclear to me, and also you are actually engaging at all with something posted to the website breitbart.com, hence you are a moron
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Thursday, 4 December 2014 18:26 (nine years ago) link
jfc someone sent me the link because she knew i loved the book, and fwiw engaging an article or a website you vehemently disagree with does not a moron make. how did i "misapprehend" the context of the quote? i want to understand "Whether or not a victim is telling the truth is irrelevant," because i don't.
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 4 December 2014 18:48 (nine years ago) link
in the context of a breitbart reporter calling you up and digging for dirt?
Why should anyone care what breitbart or ms. Hess have to say in this context, both are completely irrelevant.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 4 December 2014 19:13 (nine years ago) link
for starters, whenever you see url's containing breitbart.com, just assume whatever you are reading is being presented incorrectly, especially if the subject matter involves rape but also pretty much anything else. sincerely hope that is helpful.
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Thursday, 4 December 2014 19:22 (nine years ago) link
"Whether or not a victim is telling the truth is irrelevant" - does anyone agree with this? i'm speaking generally, not about LD - the quote seems insane to me and i wanted to see how ILX felt about it, if it's a common sentiment going over my head. and i don't mean asking/grilling a victim about the veracity of their claims - that is unacceptable unless abundant evidence suggests otherwise...but whether or not a rape occurred matters, yeah? am i just cherry-picking a wrongheaded line from a college student or is this more of an accepted notion than i thought? that's all. i'm genuinely confused by it and want to understand the context of the quote
i read it with a pound of salt in my lap. the writer is garbage. but that quote threw me for a loop and i want to understand it, and if anyone agrees with it and why, so i can learn.
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 4 December 2014 19:33 (nine years ago) link
Hi James O'Keefe
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Thursday, 4 December 2014 19:34 (nine years ago) link
Your attention is probably best directed elsewhere, rather than allowing yrself to be trolled by breitbart.com
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 4 December 2014 19:35 (nine years ago) link
christ i was expecting to get chewed out but neither of y'all have explained why i'm wrong, which i almost surely am, and i want to understand the thinking behind that quote and if many people felt the same way. i don't think i'm cherry-picking - it's a bold statement. i'm just eager to see what other people think of it so i can learn. honest to god!
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 4 December 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link
First of all: This transcript is based on memory and extensive notes taken during the call
do you really need more?
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Thursday, 4 December 2014 19:48 (nine years ago) link
Second, why does it matter at all what this person said? She is the current student station manager of a station where maybe Dunham's purported rapist worked years earlier, before Hess was there (and we don't necessarily know that Dunham hasn't changed details, e.g. to avoid a libel suit).
Third, she pretty clearly did not want to help breitbart.com with anything at all, so the conversation has to be read in that context.
Fourth, she not only has no connection to the case, but she has no connection to the campus's dealings with reported rapes. So, again, why does it matter what she says?
Fifth, I think it's likely that what she means is "truth would matter if there was actually a specific person's guilt or innocence or reputation at stake, but there is not."
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Thursday, 4 December 2014 19:53 (nine years ago) link
In other words "why are you poking your nose around in this, asshole?"
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Thursday, 4 December 2014 19:54 (nine years ago) link
Oh wait, I know why it matters, because as a prominent Oberlin student she is part of the larger SJW conspiracy to cover up false rape accusations against people who don't exist.
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Thursday, 4 December 2014 20:02 (nine years ago) link
Well, there is a person's guilt and innocence and reputation at stake. Dunham didn't use a pseudonym for the rapist and he was quickly found online. Side with and help the victim always, but to say "the truth is irrelevant" seems messed up to me, and if it doesn't to you, i want to know why because like i said, i am most likely wrong and ignorant. in context, she's (the student) not referring just to this case - she's talking about sexual assault and rape on campus in general. i'm not begrudging her or berating her, it doesn't even matter who said it, it's the quote itself that took me by surprise and i'm just seeing if anyone feels the same way, so i can understand it properly, if it has any merit at all, which is why i posted in here in the first place.
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 4 December 2014 20:22 (nine years ago) link
sorry for writing in circles - i want to learn about something that's totally out of my depth + experience because i am probably wrong, thats all
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 4 December 2014 20:23 (nine years ago) link
It's a questionable quote from an untrustworthy source, it has zero importance or relevance.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 4 December 2014 20:29 (nine years ago) link
"he" wasn't quickly found online, some guy named Barry who otherwise bore little resemblance to the person Dunham named (as Nolte himself is adamant to point out!) was found online
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Thursday, 4 December 2014 20:34 (nine years ago) link
she's not talking about "sexual assault and rape on campus in general" she's talking about a case where no real person has been named and no charges have been sought, no suspects have even been brought in, no report has been made. The truth doesn't matter in the sense that nothing is at stake other than one man's quest to prove that Lena Dunham is a lying liar and in turn cast doubt on whether women actually get raped much.
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Thursday, 4 December 2014 20:36 (nine years ago) link
at least that's what I can glean based on what sounds like a garbled quote from "memory" and "notes"
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Thursday, 4 December 2014 20:37 (nine years ago) link
i completely agree, and i'm still mystified why conservative men in particular LOVE TO HATE lena dunham, clearly because she's threatening to them in some way, which rules. sorry to harp on the quote, i didn't know if that was the consensus.
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 4 December 2014 20:45 (nine years ago) link
glad you "learned" something today but kinda rmde @ you right now
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Thursday, 4 December 2014 20:46 (nine years ago) link
just an aside: LD wrote that her gynecologist used to pitch for the Mets, and no ex-Met pitchers are in that field.
― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 December 2014 20:49 (nine years ago) link
lol
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Thursday, 4 December 2014 20:57 (nine years ago) link
I feel like there is a joke in there but not one I want to come up with let alone make
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Thursday, 4 December 2014 20:58 (nine years ago) link
this is an amusing read
http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/2014/10/13/dunham-bull/
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Thursday, 4 December 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link
Maybe it was Doctor K
It's Doc Gooden, but not that Doc Gooden.
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 4 December 2014 21:26 (nine years ago) link
so Sunday then..
― piscesx, Thursday, 8 January 2015 03:42 (nine years ago) link
wow for a show that we manage to talk about so much it sure is boring isnt it
― celfie tucker 48 (s.clover), Monday, 12 January 2015 04:56 (nine years ago) link
Marnie-fails always oddly gratifying
― Οὖτις, Monday, 12 January 2015 16:36 (nine years ago) link
I hate Marnie's band
so
fucking
much
― Jennifer 8. ( (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 01:18 (nine years ago) link