The Flaming Lips...

I still like Clouds Taste Metallic, though. *<:-|

http://gawker.com/how-the-flaming-lips-lost-a-drummer-over-native-america-1570423161/all

This story keeps gaining traction.

Their social media is covered in slime right now.

I still think it'll probably go away by the end of the month and Wayne will continued to not acknowledge everything. I'm pretty disappointed.

more like the flaming so deeply immersed in irony as a lifestyle for so long that they are now incapable of acknowledging blatant racism as troublesome lips

I knew them hanging out w Miley was a sign of trouble.

Jordan SargentJordan Sargent
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Wayne Coyne, by the way, is kind of a dick. You may remember this bullshit he pulled with Erykah Badu http://jezebel.com/5916667/erykah...

He also allegedly cheated on his wife http://newsok.com/flaming-lips-s...

Sorry Jordan, but whatever that is it isn't music journalism. Digging dirt on someone's divorce has nothing to do with this head-dress shitshow, it's just gross. I'm not interested in defending Coyne over this but pulling together different issues as if to prove that someone is de facto a dick, WTF is that? Just as depressing as when lots of people decided they were experts on Kim and Thurston's divorce.

Uh.... Kliph now has a pretty big, pretty damning story on P4K.

Kliph

why not Qlyphh

or Clyffe

xp Well that's a first-hand account of the incident in question from someone who was in the same band for 12 years, not "Oh btw he might have cheated on his wife" as if that's anybody's business. Pretty damning though. Wonder what Coyne will say when the next interviews roll around.

he'll say he's hard at work on his Christmas on Mars musical

Wayne sounds like a horrible human being.

Has he always been one?

Sorry Jordan, but whatever that is it isn't music journalism. Digging dirt on someone's divorce has nothing to do with this head-dress shitshow, it's just gross. I'm not interested in defending Coyne over this but pulling together different issues as if to prove that someone is de facto a dick, WTF is that? Just as depressing as when lots of people decided they were experts on Kim and Thurston's divorce.

― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Friday, May 2, 2014 2:06 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark

i didn't "dig dirt" for one. that is from a widely available news story.

secondly i made that comment before kliph (publicly) confirmed what happened, so i thought it was pertinent to say "by the way, wayne coyne has a documented history of being an asshole to people who were close to him"

can't believe jordan posted gossip on a gossip site when will this madness end

There was a time when I almost became a proper Flaming Lips fan and I remember Kliph being super friendly on the official Flaming Lips messageboard, covering production details for asking fans. I lost touch with their output around At War with The Mystics (which was embarrassingly bad) and despite lots of friends telling me how good Embryonic and The Terror are, I only casually listened to those two, part of which is because of the Coyne and Badu story with was nagl.

The Pitchfork article has a song by Thee Tee Pees in the "Latest Tracks" right next to it...

holy shit

ha

this was that band's last 7-inch

http://imageprocessor.websimages.com/width/310/crop/0,0,310x491/www.manglorrecords.com/teepeesREDscan02png-1.png

Good catch , Poo.

At 9:54 p.m., he texted me again pressing the headdress photo issue. In my desire to have this done and over with, I apologized and said I wouldn't do it again. He responded, "… Ha ha… You so full of shit … You're a fucking coward !! Go stick up for your Indian friends if its so important to you !!" It devolved from there, with him later texting, "I think….. I am gonna make it so your 'beliefs' no longer have any association with the Flaming Lips .."

wow if these are really Wayne's texts then eff him

Fuck Wayne Coyne. Let him do his dumbass commercials and racist hubaloo, just gtfo out of my newsfeed.

my favorite part of this was definitely when the 53-year-old man called somebody a "hater" in a text message

~bookmarked for 20 years from now~

What a weird series of stories. Kliph's whole screed. Wayne having a midlife crisis. And this whole shit with the headdress.

Am I just overdosing on Donald Sterling stories? Or does social media seem to have poisoned them all?

Geez.
http://pitchfork.com/news/55124-the-flaming-lips-wayne-coyne-blasts-hateful-pathological-liar-kliph-scurlock/

The fact that he went to RS alone smells of BS. It's one thing for Kliph to call Wayne a horrible person in retrospect, because Wayne is in a position of power and people in that position can acts like asses with impunity. But for Wayne to call Kliph a horrible person? Who they have been struggling with for some time? Bullshit. If that were true, if he's just an ex-drummer who means nothing to him, they would have fired him eons ago. This is total damage control on the part of Wayne. Which he clearly needed to do.

I hope Kliph stole one of those giant bubbles on the way out.

He knows we struggled with him for years and it didn't occur to us that it seemed that significant

The only world where this makes sense is a world where At War With the Mystics is a better album than Embryonic or The Terror. Fuck this, at least you could try and put on a good face and acknowledge the two albums you made w him were the best you had done in years. But yeah instead of trying to be the bigger man and be positive, this interview is 90% shit talking.

God, this interview is just.... the answer to every question always ends with 2-3 sentences of him just bashing their old drummer. Ugh

Well, this bit:

I had a lot of friends there. I thought [Pink Pony] making fun of the protestors seemed stupid. I thought their music was stupid. I thought their attitude was wrong. And I just thought, "Why don't you just go out there and play your music, tell them you're sorry and play some cool music, and that would be what the festival is about?" And Pink Pony handled it badly. I agree with all that.

But she's still my friend who I'm not going to throw away. I'm not going to jump on and say, "Well, now that I realize that you handle social media badly, you can't be my friend." She's still my friend. She's young. And I think she's very sorry that it all happened, and that whatever she said exploded into this thing. I think there's a lot of regret. I left because I just didn't think it was very good. But then to hear that they were making fun of people, and people probably got too drunk, I thought it was bad.

But when Kliph apparently handles social media badly, out he goes.

He's not a 27 year old young girl..

RMDE. Wayne seems to have learned a lot from Amanda Palmer.

So the Native American protestors were upset that she was bad at using social media?

Didn't he post a pic of himself and his dog or something with headdresses?

Anyway, Wayne Coyne is not someone you look at and think that he is in any way a trustworthy person

Wayne Coyne is not someone you look at and think that he is in any way a trustworthy person

^otm

Apparently the dog is a famous Instagram dog whose schtick is to sport items of clothing associated with people or groups the owner respects. Ah so that's alright then...
Too little too late. Wayne acting the innocent over the headdress incident... even if he wasn't aware of the significance, the first thing he should have done after his pal being called out on it was to try and understand why people had a problem with it, not post a photo taunting his critics. Similar pattern to the Erykah Badu spat. She tells him to kiss her glittery ass, he posts a photo of his glittery lips. Real grown up! Yet he talks about young people who don't know any better. FFS, Christina Fallin is 27, not some daft teenager.

Has the band settled on a new drummer?
Well, there's two guys. I think we're going to use two different guys. Who is the guy that plays with Radiohead and Portishead?

oh jeez

"The only reason he knows anything about Native American issues is he's trying to join this group that I think their family is Native American. But I don't even want to speak about the hate, you know. I don't have any hate for him."

"...it just uses up this space that we could be talking bout this cool shit we're doing with Sean Lennon and My Morning Jacket and Miley Cyrus, and I don't want any of that tainted."

Yes, we wouldn't want that.

He knows we struggled with him for years and it didn't occur to us that it seemed that significant

The only world where this makes sense is a world where At War With the Mystics is a better album than Embryonic or The Terror. Fuck this, at least you could try and put on a good face and acknowledge the two albums you made w him were the best you had done in years. But yeah instead of trying to be the bigger man and be positive, this interview is 90% shit talking.

― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, May 9, 2014 8:35 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

agreed- if you have to hire 2 drummers to replace your previous one, he was more than a little significant.

Kliph and others were upset that you Instagrammed the photo of your three friends and the dog in headdresses. Do you regret that now?

I regret that some people took it wrong, and yeah. The dog isn't our dog, the dog is a famous Instagram dog that we happened to be in the presence of – Mayor B is an Instagram dog. And he wears everything. He only wears things that obviously his owners must think are cool. One of them is a John Lennon New York shirt with glasses. I don't think Mayor B is saying, "Look how stupid and hateful I am" to John Lennon.

this fucking guy

blaming the dog, classic

I regret that some people took it wrong = yeah you and Rand Paul, dude.

the kicker:

I don't publicly ever say it, but I live in a neighborhood that was predominantly Native American in the late Seventies and Eighties. I haven't done it publicly, but there's cases of me helping Native Americans.

THERE'S CASES.

dogs: fully in control of what they wear

Yep, still sayin', "fuck this guy".

I'm sorry, I have to post this again because lol WOW lol

"I don't even like talking about our ex-drummer," he said, "because it just uses up this space that we could be talking bout this cool shit we're doing with Sean Lennon and My Morning Jacket and Miley [Cyrus], and I don't want any of that tainted."

god that shit sounds so cool