http://www.theonion.com/articles/white-male-privilege-squandered-on-job-at-best-buy,35835/ discus
― smhphony orchestra (crüt), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:04 (ten years ago) link
ha, the joke doesn't really go any deeper than the headline tho
― steendriver dysphoria hoos (The Reverend), Sunday, 27 April 2014 19:36 (ten years ago) link
http://time.com/85933/why-ill-never-apologize-for-my-white-male-privilege/
― 龜, Monday, 5 May 2014 01:39 (nine years ago) link
this is that scumbag whose twitter bio is 'settling the west bank' right?
― balls, Monday, 5 May 2014 01:49 (nine years ago) link
seriously? it said he's a freshman
― funch dressing (La Lechera), Monday, 5 May 2014 01:50 (nine years ago) link
The phrase, handed down by my moral superiors, descends recklessly, like an Obama-sanctioned drone, and aims laser-like at my pinkish-peach complexion, my maleness, and the nerve I displayed in offering an opinion rooted in a personal Weltanschauung.
i hereby nominate this to the terribly writing hall of fame
― Clay, Monday, 5 May 2014 01:55 (nine years ago) link
*terrible, also i nominate myself
Tal Fortgang, a freshman at Princeton University
― 龜, Monday, 5 May 2014 01:57 (nine years ago) link
I am imagining David Spade in PCU
http://i.imgur.com/CLQefpS.jpg
― 龜, Monday, 5 May 2014 01:59 (nine years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/03/nyregion/at-princeton-privilege-is-a-commonplace-b-misunderstood-or-c-frowned-upon.html?_r=0
All the attention he has received since then has been somewhat surprising, Mr. Fortgang said, adding that he was not always happy with the kind of people who have rallied around him.“I am sure there are some really racist white supremacists who point to me as a hero on the college campus,” he said. “That is not me. I don’t have a racist bone in my body.”
“I am sure there are some really racist white supremacists who point to me as a hero on the college campus,” he said. “That is not me. I don’t have a racist bone in my body.”
lol
― Clay, Monday, 5 May 2014 02:01 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/OSng9gj.png
Ungh everything about this is perfect
― 龜, Monday, 5 May 2014 02:06 (nine years ago) link
College is about the only time for anyone is going to tell this guy to "check his privilege" unless he, like, decides to attend occupy meetings or actively seeks out leftist bloggers. So it's especially whiny and shortsighted. His checkbox multicultural lit class may involve a lot of privilege checking, but his privilege will be toasted rather than checked for most of the rest of his life.
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Monday, 5 May 2014 03:04 (nine years ago) link
Tal Fortgang is a sweet name.
― très hip (Treeship), Monday, 5 May 2014 03:14 (nine years ago) link
true
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Monday, 5 May 2014 03:15 (nine years ago) link
ahem it means, roughly, 'valley of progress' auf deutsch
“I was in shock because it said ‘checking my privilege,’ and I concluded after reading that he had been ultimately unsuccessful in examining his own privilege,” said Briana Payton
― j., Monday, 5 May 2014 03:19 (nine years ago) link
haha
― balls, Monday, 5 May 2014 03:21 (nine years ago) link
awesome
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Monday, 5 May 2014 03:27 (nine years ago) link
the generational piggybacking is pretty weak also -- grandson of survivors/son of cuny-system grad is really not the equivalent of a disadvantage in the contemporary world.
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Monday, 5 May 2014 03:29 (nine years ago) link
i have heard 'check your privilege' once in a year of teaching ivy league seminars and the idea that there is too much introspection on this in the student body is lol
― caek, Monday, 5 May 2014 03:33 (nine years ago) link
what i don't get is if he's sincere why doesn't he have access to a smart princeton friend who could have pointed out he doesn't even understand the concept of privilege that is being used against him, did he just fire that puppy off to 'the tory' w/o double-checking or what
― j., Monday, 5 May 2014 03:35 (nine years ago) link
― caek, Sunday, May 4, 2014 11:33 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah dude is basically a prince to the pea of privilege
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Monday, 5 May 2014 03:36 (nine years ago) link
http://thoughtcatalog.com/anonymous/2014/04/im-not-allowed-to-have-feelings-or-opinions-because-im-white/
Tagged Censorship, Culture & Art, race, Racism, Reverse Racism, SJW, The Internet, Tumblr, White Privilege
the internet is a joy some days
― j., Monday, 5 May 2014 03:49 (nine years ago) link
Is this a thread about rich kids????
― Dreamland, Monday, 5 May 2014 03:50 (nine years ago) link
at least the author of the thought catalog piece was savvy enough to publish it anonymously. tal took his half-baked skepticisim about structural inequality to the national stage.
― très hip (Treeship), Monday, 5 May 2014 03:58 (nine years ago) link
What if instead of a bunch of white people writing articles about white privilege they just published more diverse writers?
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 5 May 2014 04:15 (nine years ago) link
lol who, the tory or thought catalog?
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Monday, 5 May 2014 04:17 (nine years ago) link
mistaking "hey this discussion might be more productive if you just took a quick quiet second to think about history" for "APOLOGIZE TO ME ABOUT THE NATIVE AMERICANS RIGHT NOW MOTHERFUCKER" is pretty textbook whiteboy tho; i'm sure he has a whole support network that thinks similarly.
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 5 May 2014 04:36 (nine years ago) link
sorry i guess that's his failure to understand the concept of checking. there are other problems too.
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 5 May 2014 04:38 (nine years ago) link
He checked back as far as his grandfather. So he's ignored the entire history of the world before 1900.
Also, yeah, at the end he says he has check his privilege, but not once did he explain how he got into Princeton, how he is paying for his education, and how he got his writing published by Time magazine.
Oh wait it's his inherited "legacy". He was destined to just have all this stuff given to him.
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 5 May 2014 05:12 (nine years ago) link
not to defend his essay but pretty sure the jews have had it rough since before 1900
― k3vin k., Monday, 5 May 2014 05:16 (nine years ago) link
http://gawker.com/conservative-money-front-is-behind-princetons-white-pr-1571826318
― smhphony orchestra (crüt), Monday, 5 May 2014 20:15 (nine years ago) link
So has insisting/suggesting that someone check their privilege been successful since people started doing it? Are there testimonies where privileged people talk about how they looked into it, realised there was stuff they weren't thinking about when they gave opinions on an issue?
― cardamon, Monday, 5 May 2014 20:49 (nine years ago) link
Annoyingly, I can't remember who said it, but I'm fairly sure there's a body of wisdom literature with many aphorisms along the lines of 'If you would be wise, first establish what you don't know', etc. Is telling someone to check their privilege a class-conscious version of this idea?
― cardamon, Monday, 5 May 2014 20:52 (nine years ago) link
I ask this because I was recently told to check my privilege
Are there any articles on this written by POC? All I've seen so far is white ppl talking white privilege.
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 5 May 2014 20:54 (nine years ago) link
(and while I've often nodded along when reading articles saying that ppl should check their privilege but ... wow, actually being told to do so does not produce the desired effect, at least for me, this time)
― cardamon, Monday, 5 May 2014 20:55 (nine years ago) link
Who told you this and what is the context?
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 5 May 2014 20:57 (nine years ago) link
In what context were you told to check yr priv? If you feel comfortable opening up about that.
― how's life, Monday, 5 May 2014 20:57 (nine years ago) link
Only irl conversation I've had about this has been w 2 other white people, one of whom was just drunkenly boasting his awareness of his privilege.
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 5 May 2014 20:58 (nine years ago) link
i think it's reputed only to work in 'safe spaces'
― j., Monday, 5 May 2014 20:58 (nine years ago) link
like twitter
― Mordy, Monday, 5 May 2014 20:59 (nine years ago) link
lol at that image xp
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Monday, 5 May 2014 20:59 (nine years ago) link
godspeed yall
― purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 5 May 2014 21:20 (nine years ago) link
^
― 1staethyr, Monday, 5 May 2014 21:24 (nine years ago) link
This was an IRL conversation with a friend of a friend (not someone I knew very well).
The issue under discussion was a recent event where: feminists in a town petition strip club to close down, it eventually shuts down for lack of custom, crazy twitter trolls start sending to death threats to the homes of people who'd organised the petition.
I started to think out loud about wtf is going on in the mind of the death-threaters; I was told this was trivia and to stop saying what about the men (those exact words) and trying to talk about mental illness without having qualifications, and ultimately 'check your privilege' (those exact words). I didn't think I was doing this, but the other people did. Quite possibly I was.
― cardamon, Monday, 5 May 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link
I felt rather as if I'd been identified pre-emptively as an anonymous badster with a twisted agenda, like we meet online frequently, which felt very uncomfortable in a face to face, non professional, social conversation.
― cardamon, Monday, 5 May 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link
I was told this was trivia and to stop saying what about the men (those exact words)
just so i follow right: you were told to check your privilege in a context where you were bringing up the thought process and potential mental illnesses of threatening people online?
― purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 5 May 2014 21:58 (nine years ago) link
hoos, stop focusing on the purported (white male) victim of privilege checking.
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Monday, 5 May 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link
Hoos: yeah. And no, I have no qualifications to talk about mental health or thought processes of people who threaten others online, but neither did the other person in the conversation.
― cardamon, Monday, 5 May 2014 22:02 (nine years ago) link
(NB it obviously doesn't matter very much if someone used a phrase to cardamon and it was awkward - that's hardly evidence that 'check your privilege' as a meme should be abandoned)
― cardamon, Monday, 5 May 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link