"I'm The Queen of Rock and POLL!!!!!!"_ILM Artist Poll #51_SLEATER-KINNEY_ RESULTS THREAD

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I wonder how much of "Combat Rock"'s hate stems not from the politics but from Carrie's cutsey speak-singing accent.

lol I like her singing on that.

Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Thursday, 24 April 2014 22:49 (ten years ago) link

Xp Kinks ("Come Dancing" made both lists.)

Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 24 April 2014 22:49 (ten years ago) link

love their Yoko-meets-Cindy-Wilson vocal affect on "Milkshake 'n' Honey" though.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 April 2014 22:50 (ten years ago) link

Ah, that's right, I remember now. I did a worst ballot for the Kinks and the Who, but not for the Stones. A few Who songs made both lists, too.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 24 April 2014 22:56 (ten years ago) link

i put who songs on all my worst ballots!

jk, i couldn't imagine putting together a worst ballot for sk, nothing they did ever really annoyed me or continues to annoy me the way say 'long live rock' does, definitely could've predicted a few of those cuts would make it though really hectoring bush era protest songs are something i can forgive very easily, we all lived thru that hell. worst songs are pretty common though and there's always at least one or two cuts i'm a little outraged to see make it.

balls, Thursday, 24 April 2014 23:04 (ten years ago) link

Elton had a Worst Songs side poll (and maaaan does Elton have some Worst Songs).

Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Thursday, 24 April 2014 23:07 (ten years ago) link

^^I didn't partake often, but I did follow that Mama Can't Buy You Love thread.

Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 24 April 2014 23:09 (ten years ago) link

have I got Worst Elton Songs for you

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 April 2014 23:10 (ten years ago) link

Kinda hoping there's a Worst Songs side poll for Dylan, and then I kinda want to poll Elton's worst against Dylan's.

Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Thursday, 24 April 2014 23:11 (ten years ago) link

I couldn't be bothered to isolate Dylan songs I might hate, because I usually just skip them. Something about Elton's most terrible songs is that many of them weren't ignorable.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 24 April 2014 23:14 (ten years ago) link

#1 Must Have is awesome wtf

horseshoe, Thursday, 24 April 2014 23:22 (ten years ago) link

i knew i should have voted in this goddamn poll

horseshoe, Thursday, 24 April 2014 23:22 (ten years ago) link

i don't understand what people like about the woods. i tried.

horseshoe, Thursday, 24 April 2014 23:23 (ten years ago) link

i don't know if ahotbo is the most self-consciously feminist one, but maybe the most lucidly feminist?

horseshoe, Thursday, 24 April 2014 23:24 (ten years ago) link

#1 Must Have is awesome wtf

i don't understand what people like about the woods. i tried.

horseshoe otm x10000000000

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 24 April 2014 23:25 (ten years ago) link

i think the reason i did't vote in this poll was that i couldn't bear to get sad about how sleater-kinney doesn't exist anymore right now

horseshoe, Thursday, 24 April 2014 23:25 (ten years ago) link

i had some wine, might be in this thread all night

horseshoe, Thursday, 24 April 2014 23:25 (ten years ago) link

This is still one of my favorite thread titles for a thread I started: I'm tired of a world without Sleater-Kinney

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 24 April 2014 23:26 (ten years ago) link

I try to be careful about defining this or that ostensibly feminist work as shrill.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 April 2014 23:28 (ten years ago) link

one of the things i love about corin tucker's voice is how it just dares a motherfucker to call her shrill. i wish a mf would!

horseshoe, Thursday, 24 April 2014 23:29 (ten years ago) link

listening to the s/t right now. i guess the drumming is bad, but i won't pretend to understand such things. album rules imo.

horseshoe, Thursday, 24 April 2014 23:30 (ten years ago) link

re: #1 Must Have i guess people like their lyrics murky and ambiguous or not didactic or whatever, but how can you not warm to this:

And for all the ladies out there I wish
We could write more than the next marketing bid
Culture is what we make it yes it is
Now is the time, now is the time
Now is the time to invent, invent, invent
Invent, invent, invent

i just straight up say that to people sometimes. i mean, i don't repeat "invent" six times. but maybe i should.

horseshoe, Thursday, 24 April 2014 23:33 (ten years ago) link

Was kinda surprised to see "combat rock" so high on the worst. It was on my ballot but chosen as a representative of the multiple songs on one beat I find interminable, and given the nod for being their first song to clear 4:30.

da croupier, Thursday, 24 April 2014 23:35 (ten years ago) link

Previous longest sk songs were album closers with extended outros right at 4min

da croupier, Thursday, 24 April 2014 23:37 (ten years ago) link

i didn't know about the cadallaca album before this! thank you poll! corin should sing all the songs.

horseshoe, Thursday, 24 April 2014 23:44 (ten years ago) link

My top 5 worst consisted of the two cheesiest "corin has fun" songs in their songbook imo (one made the poll), two somewhat arbitrary selections representing what I don't like from the last two albums soundwise (one made the poll), and the song about how y2k ain't no thing.

da croupier, Thursday, 24 April 2014 23:45 (ten years ago) link

corin tucker's one of two times i've been starstruck and dorky over a celebrity. the first was i working in the shoebox at wuxtry and playing everything falls apart and grant hart literally stuck his head in the door and i went 'grant hart!' like it was an episode of happy days. w/ corin it was basically a replay of the tig notaro story about taylor dayne, almost word for word, except i didn't keep running into her. i think sleater-kinney was my last favorite band, in the sense of yr favorite band meaning something.

man i can't believe you ppl put 'god is a number' on the worst list, that song rocks.

balls, Thursday, 24 April 2014 23:47 (ten years ago) link

lol "you ppl":

“God Is A Number”
The Hot Rock, 1999

5 Points (1 Vote, 1 #1)

Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Thursday, 24 April 2014 23:58 (ten years ago) link

That one guy...

Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 24 April 2014 23:59 (ten years ago) link

Corin's last "I need it right now" in that song, the slight catch in her voice on "now" is one of my favorite S-K moments.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 25 April 2014 00:02 (ten years ago) link

I was up until this poll a confirmed Carrie stan, but re-listening to my #1 and #2 must haves, it was Corin who left me destroyed.

Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Friday, 25 April 2014 00:06 (ten years ago) link

I didn't vote for any on my worst list but man it's funny how quaint s-k's more overt "I gotta rock!" in-praise-of-guitar moments feel now

da croupier, Friday, 25 April 2014 00:06 (ten years ago) link

i don't know if ahotbo is the most self-consciously feminist one, but maybe the most lucidly feminist?

yeah that's a better word for it. i want to clarify that "didactic" pings as more negative than i intended, i love them for their straightforward feminist statements like:

A woman's pain never private, always seen
I want to close my eyes
I want to cut the wires
I want a day not made for you to see

reddening, Friday, 25 April 2014 00:07 (ten years ago) link

I def shake my fist at the two people who can't think of sk songs worse than was it a lie. I mean at least #1 must have is kind if static and includes "cultures what we make it, yes it is!" as arguable demerits.

*shakes fist*

da croupier, Friday, 25 April 2014 00:13 (ten years ago) link

Kind OF static, I mean

da croupier, Friday, 25 April 2014 00:14 (ten years ago) link

"cultures what we make it, yes it is!" as arguable demerits.

*shakes fist*

― da croupier, Thursday, April 24, 2014 8:13 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'll kill you

horseshoe, Friday, 25 April 2014 00:16 (ten years ago) link

I'll watch.

Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Friday, 25 April 2014 00:22 (ten years ago) link

I voted for "terrorist" on the side project poll so Ivan dig it

da croupier, Friday, 25 April 2014 00:22 (ten years ago) link

Lol "I can dig it" rather

da croupier, Friday, 25 April 2014 00:23 (ten years ago) link

lol i love that song forgiven

horseshoe, Friday, 25 April 2014 00:24 (ten years ago) link

man i can't believe you ppl put 'god is a number' on the worst list, that song rocks.

was puzzled by this as well

RSD-rolled (sleeve), Friday, 25 April 2014 00:28 (ten years ago) link

I voted for God Is A Number as worst song. There are no really bad SK songs but what the heck, sometimes ya gotta go for it dude.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 25 April 2014 00:32 (ten years ago) link

God is not a number, God is a FREE MAN!

kornrulez6969, Friday, 25 April 2014 00:33 (ten years ago) link

I was hoping it was someone who found it sacriligeous.

da croupier, Friday, 25 April 2014 00:34 (ten years ago) link

Just pretentious.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 25 April 2014 00:34 (ten years ago) link

Like she saw Pi and wrote a song about it

kornrulez6969, Friday, 25 April 2014 00:34 (ten years ago) link

i didn't vote for worst songs, but the two i came up with before i stopped trying were "steep air" and "the remainder," mostly because i find them boring. and i still like corin's part in "the remainder."

reddening, Friday, 25 April 2014 00:37 (ten years ago) link

Gobsmacked that anything in "The Remainder" is boring!

Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Friday, 25 April 2014 00:39 (ten years ago) link

i don't know if ahotbo is the most self-consciously feminist one, but maybe the most lucidly feminist?

― horseshoe, Thursday, April 24, 2014 6:24 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Corin, in a fun webchat from 2000:

Detroit, Michigan: This record seems to be quite a bit more overtly political and perphaps feminist than your previous albums. What is your reaction to the attacks against the so-called feminist agenda by men and women alike recently?

Sleater Kinney: *Corin) I, personally, have really reconnected with my political anger this year, and have felt more inspired than I have in a long time. I've felt disturbed by the mysoginist and sexist things that happened in 1999. By having the privilidge {sic} of an audience, if I can in any way inspire people to change things, I want to.

Re-listening to the album really brings back the memories timecapsule-style. It was a really ugly time, Woodstock '99 only being the crowning acheivement of alot of really odious events and posturing going around. I remember seeing a big report on "Dateline" that fall about how this, I think it was a lesbian student alliance/outreach group from Columbia University was having an event in Central Park that was crashed by this large group of guys who ending up assaulting (both physically and sexually) the attendees. There were camcorders in the crowd, a bunch of footage was captured, and the scary thing was it was all so random--it was't premeditated, the men just showed up and went to town on these young women. I also seem to recall that--despite the evidence--their punishments were fairly light--some fines, perhaps a little community service.

You listen to the album and it's a ticket back to this time before it was so easy to get a hold of thinkpieces, back when instant journalism was in its infancy. You have this time where it felt like some great positive change had occurred, but suddenly <BOOM>, we're back in the stone ages again.

Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 25 April 2014 03:49 (ten years ago) link

Lie is the track that most gets across that frustration to me IMO, where some of the others on that album feel more about "what do I do with the privilege of an audience" in a more detached way

da croupier, Friday, 25 April 2014 03:58 (ten years ago) link


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