"I'm The Queen of Rock and POLL!!!!!!"_ILM Artist Poll #51_SLEATER-KINNEY_ RESULTS THREAD

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2. Wild Flag, “Glass Tambourine”
Wild Flag, 2011
110 Points, (4 Votes)

The Track: http://youtu.be/3NBbCs7jpws
Live: http://youtu.be/775teAcCeSQ

WOW Hall was where i saw the corin tucker band when they did their small tour, they sounded great.

surprised glass tambourine got so much love, it was one of my picks too! i prefer the 7" version

hey reddening do u still work at Skip's?

i never did, i work over at the community college!

oops OK!

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1. Wild Flag, “Romance”
Wild Flag, 2011
205 Points (6 Votes, 2 #1’s)

Music Video: http://youtu.be/8J8n9R8rnB8
Live on KEXP: http://youtu.be/q25zB3lJqgY
Live on Letterman: http://youtu.be/ecxbvJ-Avts
Amoeba Records "What's In My Bag" w/Wild Flag: http://youtu.be/N8_5ii79OFQ

That'll be it for today. Tune in tomorrow for Best Albums, Worst Songs, and the first part of the Tracks Rollout!

that's a pretty good representation of the side projects

How many ballots ended up getting sent in?

31 Ballots.

11 of which also had solo/side ballots.

June n July wuz robbed!

i wish corin tucker band's "big goodbye" had made it, it's my fave off that album.

Surprised Excuse 17's Forever Fired didn't

The Spells shoulda made it!

"June n July" and The Spells' "The Age of Backwards" were both bubbling under. Excuse 17 earned several votes, but "The Drop Dead Look" was easily the most popular of their seven tracks that earned votes.

Sorry for the delay. On To The Albums!

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5. The Woods, 2005
42 Points (14 Votes, 3 # 1’s)

realised awhile ago this sounds MUCH better to me played more softly than loud. i can't "hear" it when it's blaring. GREAT way to exit for the ladies in any event

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4. One Beat, 2002
51 Points (17 Votes, 3 #1’s)

I put One Beat as my #1, I wouldn't have anticipated putting it there before the poll but the production style here is my favorite

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3. Call The Doctor, 1996
53 Points (20 Votes)

I had CTD @ #2. Wouldn't have thought to do it prior to the poll, but I did my tracks list first and saw I had shortlisted practically the whole thing.

THR #2, DMO #1? /wishful thinking

no first place votes for call the doctor is kinda insane (esp w/ 3 #1s for the freaking woods)

CTD was like a perennial #2/3 on most ballots, which does add up.

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2. The Hot Rock, 1999
67 Points (21 Votes, 5 #1’s)

Just listened to The Woods again yesterday, and the mastering doesn't bug me as much anymore. Also, probably their best collection of songs, and by far their most unhinged performances.

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1. The Kink Kontroversy, 1965
89 Points (22 Votes, 12 #1’s)

lollll

stoked to see the hot rock so high!

I did an albums of the '90s list, and I do think that The Kink Kontroversy ended up as my #1.

Waitaminute

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1. Dig Me Out, 1997
89 Points (22 Votes, 12 #1’s)

For awhile DMR & THR were neck and neck for #1, but then the former got like 5 individual #1's in row, which sealed that one.

Also stoked to see the hot rock so high. Definitely their most critically underappreciated record in its day, and to me their crowning achievement.

Yeah, I definitely remember AHOTBO being hailed as a "return to form," as if THR sucked or something.

I'll happily take The Hot Rock at second. Which record was sixth?

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6. All Hands On The Bad One, 2000
31 Points (12 Votes)

After that, there's a precipitous drop off in points, with entries for the debut coming next, then Heavens To Betsy, the two Corin albums, Cadallaca, and Wild Flag.

Aw, I should've voted for albums. I don't know if it would've made a difference in the end, but AHOTBO would've been my #1.

THR was the only one of their post-S/T records to miss the P&J top 10, and if Wikipedia is to be believed, THR sold substantially less than each of their post-CTD albums.

Yeah, I definitely remember AHOTBO being hailed as a "return to form," as if THR sucked or something.

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Seems like THR was a backlash moment in some cases. I remember a review in Alternative Press in which the album got whatever the middle rating was on the scale they were using at the time, with the writer making points about how it wasn't anything they hadn't done as good or better before, and how it seemed like they were putting more effort into side projects then they should. THR was my intro to the band (bought it a few weeks after release) and I just couldn't get my head around how anyone could perceive it as a lackluster release.

I was super excited to hear it, as I was already in love with Dig Me Out, and I bought THR on release day. It exceeded my expectations, and my expectations were that they'd introduce more tension, drama, and mystery into their now-established formula, and that they'd also fuck with that formula.

I always suspected the haters just wanted DMO II.

THR was definitely not as universally loved as Dig Me Out or Call The Doctor.

X-post...Dig Me Out 2 would be great. I'm one of those fans.

If anything, the problem with The Hot Rock was the sequencing. After the alltime opener, it got a little tough going. Picked up on side 2, where DMO and CTD stumbled.

The Hot Rock was the only album (besides the first) that missed the top 10 of Pazz & Jop, and was also their lowest selling album (besides the first). and it's always been by far my favorite, so it's gratifying to see that it's got a lot of support here.

I'm gonna do the "Worst/Least Loved Songs" run now, and I'll fire up the Tracks Rollout tomorrow.

As the points totals reveal, I didn't get alot of takers on this part of the ballot. I'm including this # of them to illustrate a point later to be revealed in the regular tracks list.

On with the show:

8. “Jenny”
Dig Me Out, 1997
5 Points (2 Votes)

3. (Tie) “#1 Must Have”
All Hands On The Bad One, 2000

“Entertain”
The Woods, 2005

“Faraway”
One Beat, 2002

“God Is A Number”
The Hot Rock, 1999

“Milkshake n’ Honey”
All Hands On The Bad One, 2000

5 Points (1 Vote, 1 #1)

2. “Was It A Lie?”
All Hands On The Bad One, 2000
6 Points (2 Votes)

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1. “Combat Rock”
One Beat, 2002
8 Points (3 Votes)

BONUS FEATURE: Protest Vote from Leee

SUCK IT, THEY'RE ALL GREAT.

I opted out of this poll primarily because I couldn't think of 5 missteps in their catalog that were major enough to really merit inclusion in a "worst" poll.

Tracks:
Let's Call it Love/Night Light
Start Together
Get Up
Oh
Don't Talk Like
Good Things
Burn, Don't Freeze
What's Mine is Yours
Little Mouth
A Quarter to Three
Modern Girl
The Fox
Funeral Song
Step Aside
One Beat
I Wanna Be Yr Joey Ramone
Words and Guitar
Dig Me Out
Stay Where You Are
It's Enough

Albums:
The Woods
The Hot Rock
One Beat
Call the Doctor
Dig Me Out

Tracks
1. Hot Rock
2. Start Together
3. Good Things
4. I Wanna Be Your Joey Ramone
5. Modern Girl
6. A Quarter to Three
7. The Size of Our Love
8. Heart Attack
9. Get Up
10. Turn It On
11. Anonymous
12. Stay Where You Are
13. Banned from the End of the World
14. Burn, Don't Freeze
15. Wilderness
16. Youth Decay
17. Little Babies
18. Rollercoaster
19. Entertain
20. Sympathy

Albums
1. The Hot Rock
2. Call the Doctor
3. The Woods
4. All Hands on the Band One
5. Calculated (Heavens to Betsy)

terrific poll, this one!

Smashing, Grisso! Classy pics, too!

Part 1:

Turn It On
Call the Doctor
Dig Me Out
Not What You Want
Little Mouth
One Beat
Words and Guitars
Oh!
Let's Call It Love / Night Light
I Wanna Be Yr Joey Ramone
It’s Enough
Memorize Your Lines
What's Mine is Yours
Steep Air
Off With Your Head
Was it a Lie?
Fortunate Son
Entertain
Ironclad
Start Together

Part 2: Non-SK tracks

Cadallaca - The Trouble with Public Places
Corin Tucker Band - 1,000 Years
The Spells - Age of Backwards
Corin Tucker Band - Half a World Away
Wild Flag - Romance
Corin Tucker Band - Dragon
Wild Flag - Future Crimes
Wild Flag - Glass Tambourine
Corin Tucker Band - It's Always Summer
Portlandia - Dream of the 90s

Part 3: ALBUMS

Dig Me Out
One Beat
The Woods
Call the Doctor
1,000 Years

Part 4: Hated
SUCK IT, THEY'RE ALL GREAT.

Browsing through the ballots, it seems that almost everyone placed at least 70% of their selections! Surely unusual for ILM ballot polls, yes?

Thanks so much for running this. Lots of fun. Great pics too.

My ballot:
Tracks

Turn It On
One More Hour
One Beat
Anonymous
Dance Song '97
I Wanna Be Your Joey Ramone
Start Together
Light Rail Coyote
Dig Me Out
Get Up
Stay Where You Are
Call The Doctor
Good Things
Youth Decay
Oxygen
It’s Enough
Let's Call It Love/Night Light
Be Yr Mama
Entertain
Heart Factory

Non-SK Tracks

June n July (Cadallaca)
You’re My Only One (Cadallaca)
Your One Wish (Cadallaca)
Pocket Games (Cadallaca)
Two Beers Later (Cadallaca)
Winter Storm ‘98 (Cadallaca)
All The Same (Quasi)
California (Quasi)
Our Happiness Is Guaranteed (Quasi)
I Give Up (Quasi)

Albums

Dig Me Out
Call The Doctor
One Beat
The Woods
Introducing Cadallaca

Worst

God Is A Number
The Hot Rock
Combat Rock
The Fox
Jenny

1. Far Away
2. The Drama You've Been Craving
3. Dance Song '97
4. Oh!
5. Anonymous
6. Step Aside
7. Rollercoaster
8. Light Rail Coyote
9. Hubcap
10. Let's Call It Love
11. O2
12. All Hands On The Bad One
13. Call The Doctor
14. Pompeii
15. Heart Factory
16. Sympathy
17. Words And Guitar
18. Ironclad
19. It's Enough
20. Youth Decay

Remasters!

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oh shit! if anyone gets these, please report back with how they sound

Samples: https://soundcloud.com/subpop/sets/sleater-kinney-an-abbreviated-beginners-guide

The Chainsaw-era tracks sounds less tinny (presumably a problem from the original mastering), and the early KRS stuff has a skosh more presence. I don't know what they could do to the 2000-up stuff, unless it's possible to do The Woods: Naked and have de-Friedman'd mix.

If that "Entertain" sample is any indication, it sounds pretty much the same, I think.

Yeah always thought these albums sounded fine.

Well, what can you really do to 'remaster' something from the last 15 or so years? I can see the need to spruce up the Chainsaw albums, as they probably didn't get the attention they needed at the time, and of course getting everything back out on vinyl should a big deal for people whom that would be a big deal.

one headphone listen to s/t and CTD flac and they sound so alive; and i noticed some tiny subtle little guitar parts that i hadn't noticed before. haven't delved into the rest yet

having fun listening and trying to suss differences haven't done any a/b yet. i don't have engineer ears by any means; using a nice nad amp and a pair of sony mdr-7506 phones. ctd tunes seem to have more "bite". definitely a better mix in my mind when checking closely. just now digging into DMO and i think Janet's sound (noticing the snare esp) has more midrange (maybe it's in my mind). but it's def. a improvement overall. subtle for sure and for fans listening very closely. i reckon as i go on differences will be less obvious but who the hell knows. curious to get to the woods and see if i am able to stand more volume. typically listen to that one on the quiet side since it's SO frikken loudly mastered on the original. the originals do sound "fine" but the best band of the 1990's/early lost decayed (decade) deserves special treatment, wot

Wrong about Call The Doctor http://consequenceofsound.net/2014/10/ranking-sleater-kinney-from-worst-to-best/full-post/

one beat is def my least fav

i saw that yesterday and it amused me how dramatically different their ranking was from ILM's

all of the albums are good with a slight decline circa All Hands on the Bad One and, perhaps, its predecessor, which has at least been overrated here, while One Beat and perhaps Call the Doctor are underrated.

Spin Ranks The Tracks: http://www.spin.com/articles/every-sleater-kinney-song-ranked-no-cities-to-love/

Just digging in, but already seeing we differ from the Spin writers.

Didn't see that #1 coming, can't say the same about #2 ;-)

Ha, I was at that Echo Lounge show where they forgot how to play "Buy Her Candy." Didn't know it was on YouTube.

i wholeheartedly reject the judgment of any poll that puts "pompeii" in the BOTTOM FIVE of all s-k songs, below even "write me back fucker."

My mind is boggled that "Turn It On" is in the bottom half. >=(

Super happy to see "Sympathy" so high. Top 10 overall is pretty close to mine in a different order.

Yeah, my list is different than theirs but I'm glad to see "Sympathy" and "Leave You Behind" appreciated.

UPDATE: Shortly after this list was published, two new Sleater-Kinney songs were discovered to have been released as a bonus 12-inch single with the vinyl edition of No Cities to Love. The list has been since updated to include them.

"omg new songs, hurry figure out how they stack against songs you've known for 15 years" is some clickhole logic

Tipsy was that the Echo Lounge show Flin Flon opened?

Yep, with the Butchies too. Also saw them there the next year, with the Gossip opening.

the Butchies were such a great live band, saw them a few times.

They were. I bought a CD at that show because their set was so good. Recordings didn't live up to the show, but there were some good tunes.

UPDATE: Shortly after this list was published, two new Sleater-Kinney songs were discovered to have been released as a bonus 12-inch single with the vinyl edition of No Cities to Love. The list has been since updated to include them.

WE NEED TO RE-RUN THIS POLL.

My mind is boggled that "Turn It On" is in the bottom half. >=(

Yes! That's my favorite.

I rank'em all except the self-titled.

Carrie's part during the bridge of "Call the Doctor" is killing me right now.