Green Day - Dookie Poll also C/D?

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Insomniac is FAR superior

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 17 April 2014 18:36 (ten years ago) link

voted "longview" without remembering that "basket case" was actually on here

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 17 April 2014 19:04 (ten years ago) link

having a blast

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 17 April 2014 19:11 (ten years ago) link

I have never heard this album, lol old. I have one of the singles on Lookout!

I do have respect for these guys, they seem fairly well-intentioned and they made Lookout a ton of money iirc

I will listen later & report back

sleeve, Thursday, 17 April 2014 19:22 (ten years ago) link

'When masturbation's lost its fun, you're fucking nowhere'. As an awkward teenage boy I thought this line was super deep! Bless em. I revisited this a couple of years ago and it's really fun. For all its goofy stoner humour, there's a sweetness underlying it all. Perfect teenage music. My green vinyl copy of it was my pride and joy. For all that its a mainstream pop-punk record, next to horrid shiny stuff like Sum 41 and Blink 182 it sounds like Crass.

Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Thursday, 17 April 2014 21:05 (ten years ago) link

First band I loved. Teenage me used to smugly tell everyone that Kerplunk! was far superior: my initiation into the joys of challopsing. Insomniac was a let-down and I had lost all interest by the time the next one came out.

robocop ELF (seandalai), Friday, 18 April 2014 00:19 (ten years ago) link

Insomniac is p great but weighed down heavily by "Brain Stew"

getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Friday, 18 April 2014 00:22 (ten years ago) link

whichever one goes "i walk a lonely road, the only road that i have ever known"

markers, Friday, 18 April 2014 00:26 (ten years ago) link

Ick. I dont f/w green day American Idiot era :(. Tho that album is half good

getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Friday, 18 April 2014 00:27 (ten years ago) link

Thinking back I have no idea what's on Insomniac besides "Brain Stew" and I'm not sure I even listened to it more than a couple of times - and this in the days of playing new purchases over and over and over.

robocop ELF (seandalai), Friday, 18 April 2014 00:31 (ten years ago) link

"Walking Contadiction", "Geek Stink Breath", "86"

getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Friday, 18 April 2014 00:32 (ten years ago) link

Brain Stew does weigh things down but that's kind of the point... love the transition to Jaded.

skip, Friday, 18 April 2014 01:17 (ten years ago) link

whichever one goes "i walk a lonely road, the only road that i have ever known"

lol i distinctly remember hearing that one for the first time while driving home at night and wondering if they were serious because it was so awful

anyway, basket case

mookieproof, Friday, 18 April 2014 01:23 (ten years ago) link

some of us who aren't miserable fucks find it a little easier to enjoy things than you do

markers, Friday, 18 April 2014 01:26 (ten years ago) link

lol i distinctly remember hearing that one for the first time while driving home at night and wondering if they were serious because it was so awful

Sad but true

skip, Friday, 18 April 2014 01:26 (ten years ago) link

Daaaaam markers!

getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Friday, 18 April 2014 01:30 (ten years ago) link

haha i totally thought markers was being ironic

should have known better : /

mookieproof, Friday, 18 April 2014 01:33 (ten years ago) link

"American Idiot" the song is probably the most successful mainstream protest song of the Bush era and has aged well. It got people who didn't quite agree with the message to sing along, almost as if they knew they would agree with it later, which they did on Bush, Iraq, terrorism, gay rights, etc... "Holiday" is also still listenable.

The rest of the album not so much...

skip, Friday, 18 April 2014 01:33 (ten years ago) link

thread now littered with broken dreams

mookieproof, Friday, 18 April 2014 01:35 (ten years ago) link

Yea the title track is fantastic but the album is out of their wheelhouse imo

getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Friday, 18 April 2014 01:36 (ten years ago) link

like a bypass or service road or roundabout

of broken dreams

mookieproof, Friday, 18 April 2014 01:37 (ten years ago) link

Lol

getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Friday, 18 April 2014 01:39 (ten years ago) link

All my myself=eyerolly imo

getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Friday, 18 April 2014 01:40 (ten years ago) link

all I need is their comp tbh

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 April 2014 01:40 (ten years ago) link

Basket Case has immediate appeal but I have heard it so much by now that it bores me. longview is the one that still has some of the magic left.

So objective vote would be basket case, longview would be the subjective one for me.

Moka, Friday, 18 April 2014 04:33 (ten years ago) link

i loved this when it came out, then immediately went into hating them for years, now I've come back around. this is a great record. can't pick one track.

akm, Friday, 18 April 2014 05:05 (ten years ago) link

"Longview" was the first Green Day song I got into, so it still tugs at the heartstrings a bit. I actually was not much of a Green Day fan when they came out tho - my taste in my teens was very particular and I liked very little, 'rock' wise. I came around to them in my 20s more or less.

for whatever reason I thought BJA was Australian when I first heard "Longview" and I was like YAY THE DONOVAN OF PUNK ROCK

getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Friday, 18 April 2014 05:06 (ten years ago) link

"2,000 Light Years Away" tho still my fav GD song.

getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Friday, 18 April 2014 05:07 (ten years ago) link

Pretty sure that everyone only needs one Green Day album in their life and that is a) the one that came out when they were 14-15 and b) the objective best. So I am happy that the one that is genuinely objectively the best came out when I was 14.

Matt DC, Friday, 18 April 2014 11:07 (ten years ago) link

this was a fun listen, "Longview", 'Basket Case" and "She" were the ones that really stood out to me

sleeve, Friday, 18 April 2014 14:02 (ten years ago) link

During my freshman year in lolcollege (when this first came out), the guy in the room next to me that listened solely to hip-hop found it utterly hilarious that a band would name their album Dookie. So much so that he borrowed it from me to show his friends on another floor. Then, for the remainder of the year, every time he saw me in the hallway he would say, "still listening to Dookie?" then crack himself up all over again.

I will say classic, for sure. I pulled this out last summer and thought it stands up surprisingly well and I forgot how many of the non-singles I loved. Probably going to vote, "When I Come Around".

djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 18 April 2014 15:27 (ten years ago) link

Do you ever think back to another time?
Does it bring you so down that you thought you lost your mind?

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 18 April 2014 15:51 (ten years ago) link

Then, for the remainder of the year, every time he saw me in the hallway he would say, "still listening to Dookie?" then crack himself up all over again.

haha

marcos, Friday, 18 April 2014 15:53 (ten years ago) link

in high school i had a lot of friends who listened to nothing but hip-hop and they thought everything i listened to was hilarious

marcos, Friday, 18 April 2014 15:54 (ten years ago) link

(never cared for green day past age 12 though)

marcos, Friday, 18 April 2014 15:54 (ten years ago) link

yours or theirs?

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 18 April 2014 16:11 (ten years ago) link

I had a friend who got not one, not two but three Green Day tattoos ...
pre-Dookie. Poor guy.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 April 2014 19:49 (ten years ago) link

Listened to this this morning, it was great and nice and felt like comfort food! I think this album is front-packed, and I start to lose interest on side 2, though "Basket Case" and "She" are both really great. I remember my parents thinking "Do you have the time to listen to me whine?" was a hilarious opening line. I like "Are you feeling like a social tool without a use".

But "Longview" is just so perfectly teenage in so many ways. "My mother says to get a job, but she don't like the one she's got", etc. Plus the "I've got no motivation/Smoking my inspiration" middle-eight is really killer. All across this records there are Beatles-style middle eights in these songs that are sometimes better than the songs they are in!

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 18 April 2014 19:55 (ten years ago) link

I had a friend who got not one, not two but three Green Day tattoos ...
pre-Dookie. Poor guy.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, April 18, 2014 12:49 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

could be worse tbf, they are still semi-relevant

IKEA metaballs (Spottie), Friday, 18 April 2014 20:22 (ten years ago) link

yeah think of the guy who has 3 MxPx tattoos

Vinnie, Friday, 18 April 2014 20:35 (ten years ago) link

exactly

IKEA metaballs (Spottie), Friday, 18 April 2014 20:39 (ten years ago) link

hey whatd mxpx ever do to you

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 18 April 2014 21:17 (ten years ago) link

didn't stay semi-relevant, slowly went the way of the buffalo

IKEA metaballs (Spottie), Friday, 18 April 2014 21:19 (ten years ago) link

dud. buncha poseurs. i don't care how played out that sounds.

brimstead, Friday, 18 April 2014 21:50 (ten years ago) link

mxpx?

IKEA metaballs (Spottie), Friday, 18 April 2014 21:51 (ten years ago) link

mxpx are soldiers of jesus iirc

brimstead, Friday, 18 April 2014 21:56 (ten years ago) link

but no i was talking bout the green day. carry on

brimstead, Friday, 18 April 2014 21:56 (ten years ago) link

I listened to this album so much when I was at school. It fit on one side of a C-90 - can't remember what was on the other side, maybe SFA? but yeah I will have to re-acquaint myself with some of the album tracks.
Voting WTP as it was the first time I heard GD and thought it was just amazing.

kinder, Friday, 18 April 2014 22:07 (ten years ago) link

I'm sure this poll will reveal no shortage of unadventurous voters. Therefore I will vote non-single, which I would've done anyway.
It's just a matter of deciding which one, which might be kind of impossible...

Having a Blast vs Sassafras Roots vs Eminius Sleepus
Burnout and Chump are also really good.

"Pulling Teeth" really the only one on here I don't like
― getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:04 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark

I can appreciate this as I've only recently finally come around (lol) to enjoying this song after years of always skipping Track 6.

billstevejim, Saturday, 19 April 2014 01:21 (nine years ago) link

Although if "J.A.R." were somehow able to be included, this would've been a very easy decision.

billstevejim, Saturday, 19 April 2014 01:22 (nine years ago) link

blew them off the stage

nice

j., Sunday, 3 February 2019 01:04 (five years ago) link

i had a big poster of the cover art on my bedroom wall, when i was 6 years old. loved the shit out of this album back then.

but, yeah, insomniac was better. had better singles too.

BringTheAuBonPain, Sunday, 3 February 2019 06:43 (five years ago) link

Insomniac IS better - it's more consistent, feels much more like an album than Dookie where the singles stick out and there's more variety, but nothing beats the pummeling 33 minute screed of Insomniac.

flappy bird, Sunday, 3 February 2019 06:58 (five years ago) link

Serena Williams being a Green Day stan has always been one of the most endearing things about her

25 years ago my life changed... for the better. Thanks @GreenDay @billiejoe @trecool @MikeDirnt pic.twitter.com/3ATEc4J4tJ

— Serena Williams (@serenawilliams) February 2, 2019

Roz, Sunday, 3 February 2019 07:34 (five years ago) link

39 Smooth is the actual best.

billstevejim, Sunday, 3 February 2019 08:02 (five years ago) link

I prefer Insomniac to Dookie, too. The intro to 'Panic Song' still gets the blood pumping!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 16:30 (five years ago) link

the world is a sick machine breeding a mass of shit

flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 17:17 (five years ago) link

Insomniac doesn't have the classic singles of Dookie but I agree it's a better listen from start to finish.

skip, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 02:05 (five years ago) link

four years pass...

London dive bar cover band launches into "Basket Case" and lo and behold, guess who is in the audience and jumps onstage to sing lead:

https://www.tiktok.com/@greenday/video/7232793292373577006

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 01:08 (eleven months ago) link

typical man, thinking he can do a woman's job better than her.
(jk obvs, would've made my week to have been there! )

kinder, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 12:06 (eleven months ago) link

Did Billie Joe actually relocate to the UK?

beamish13, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 14:15 (eleven months ago) link

yes, purely to gain punk credibility.

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 14:16 (eleven months ago) link

(actually it was because of Roe v Wade and him being fed up w/ America)

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 14:16 (eleven months ago) link

sorry not Roe v Wade itself, but the overturning of it

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 14:17 (eleven months ago) link

It's weird how so many left-leaning people I know have done the opposite, moving to Florida and especially Texas (Austin specifically), and they hate the new laws they've enacted (against abortion, gun control, transgender rights, education, etc).

birdistheword, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 17:12 (eleven months ago) link

I mean, I suppose it’s a theoretically productive thing to do from a voter standpoint; but to paraphrase Lucille Bluth, “I’d rather be dead in California…”

Unidentified rogue Jedi (morrisp), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 17:25 (eleven months ago) link

Theoretically, but here's how it played out: U.S. conducts a rushed census in 2020 (thanks to the pandemic and Trump, it doesn't go that well, but it's held anyway). Texas has a lot more people now, so they get more Congressional reps (while states like NY get less reps). But wait, the majority of Texas is still really conservative, and with gerrymandering sealing the deal, that means a bigger right-wing influence in Congress.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 17:47 (eleven months ago) link

yes, purely to gain punk credibility.

― the manwich horror (Neanderthal),

he got sick of people asking why he sings in a British accent

No, 𝘐'𝘮 Breathless! (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 18:01 (eleven months ago) link

Now we just need Sting to move ti Jamaica and we're sorted

No, 𝘐'𝘮 Breathless! (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 18:01 (eleven months ago) link

xxp I was thinking more with regard to the state laws they were complaining about, but yeah interesting point…

How does a rock star like Billy Joe move to the UK? Does he go back and forth (for visa purposes)… or do you qualify for UK citizenship if you can prove you were sufficiently influenced by the Clash?

Unidentified rogue Jedi (morrisp), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 18:06 (eleven months ago) link

yeah no, wealthy people seldom have immigration issues (unless you're a russian oligarch or political fugitive).

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 18:25 (eleven months ago) link


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