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Ha. New stuff is not gorgeous Brazilian old-school in feel, but it retains some of that in the melodies

curmudgeon, Friday, 11 April 2014 14:02 (ten years ago) link

five months pass...

Caetano Veloso concludes the US leg of his Abracaco orld tour with the second of two consecutive nights at the BAM Howard Gilman Opera House tonight and an intimate public conversation about art, music, film, and more with director Peter Sellars Saturday evening at the BAM Fisher Hillman Studio.

Fron Nonesuch website. Bet the Saturday night conversation will be interesting

curmudgeon, Friday, 26 September 2014 21:11 (nine years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/27/arts/music/caetano-veloso-and-his-band-perform-at-bam.html?ref=arts

Discussion of his band, plus Arto Lindsey joined him for the encores at this show at BAM in NYC

Here's an excerpt of Ben Ratliff's review:

Now 72, Mr. Veloso has been working with this group, Banda Cê, since 2006, through three records and multiple tours. Its members — Mr. Callado, the brilliant guitarist Pedro Sa and the bassist and keyboardist Ricardo Dias Gomes — are all musicians a generation younger. They counteract his eminence. The sound and arrangements of the new songs are small and immediate, skeletal and unsentimental, like a garage band in miniature.

Mr. Veloso seems to crave critical distance, and the band is a new way to help him attain it. With Banda Cê, raw but articulate, he has little risk of coming across as a glib cultural elder statesman. The songs push and soothe and sometimes grate, grounded in old or new sounds, such as the maracatu-like rhythm of “O Império da Lei,” (“The Rule of Law”), inspired by the murders of environmental activists in the Amazon; a kind of long-form, electric-folk minimalism in “Um Comunista,” about the Brazilian Marxist Carlos Marighella; and variations on bossa nova, his aesthetic resting pulse.

The two-hour set’s references to the past tended toward the complicated and contrarian, too, ambiguous exercises in attraction and withdrawal, irony and rebellion. There were “Baby,” from the late ’60s, and “Você Não Entende Nada” (“You Don’t Understand Anything”) and “De Noite Na Cama” (“By Night in Bed”), from the early ’70s. (During that last one, he unbuttoned his shirt all the way, let it hang open an inch or so, then almost immediately began buttoning it up again.)

The risk, perhaps, of leaning so heavily on ambiguity is that Mr. Veloso is undercutting himself, not allowing himself more access to the beauty of some of his old work; he’s not only a provocateur, but also the writer of more single-purpose songs of love, celebration and memory. But he is concentrating on the new, both for its material and for its double-edged sentiment.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 27 September 2014 17:24 (nine years ago) link

Was trying to find the Bicho album on Spotify last night without success. Maybe I typed it in wrong.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 28 September 2014 12:42 (nine years ago) link

It's on Danish spotify, anyway. Cool album.

Frederik B, Sunday, 28 September 2014 13:54 (nine years ago) link

Listening to Bicho right now. I've always found it a bit underwhelming, too pretty for an afro-brazilian funk-album called Bicho, but wow, there are some hits on there! The stretch Two Naira Fifty Kobo - Gente - Olha O Menino is cool, and obviously the two final tracks - including Leaozinho, which I posted in the One Week thread last week - are incredible.

Frederik B, Sunday, 28 September 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link

Listened to it on Youtube last night, as I still can't find it on US Spotify. Need to listen a few more times as I was doing other stuff while I had it on.

I wonder how that Veloso with theatre director Peter Sellars chat was the other night (mentioned upthread)?

curmudgeon, Monday, 29 September 2014 15:45 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_K9j3fb8Es
is the section of the Olympic ceremony from last night with Veloso, Gil and Anitta.
I missed it when it was live, was it the very first thing or the very last.

Stevolende, Saturday, 6 August 2016 08:54 (seven years ago) link

Think it was towards the end.

The Rest Is A Cellarful of Noise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 6 August 2016 10:15 (seven years ago) link

Had me thinking that i'd turned over from the BBC News channel too late for a bit. But couldn't tell if all the population on the floor there were the teams or Brazilian dancers.

Ceremony's being reshown on BBC2 at the moment or just has been.

Stevolende, Saturday, 6 August 2016 10:22 (seven years ago) link

If BBC2 replay is anything to go by it's about 1/2 hour away from the end of the footage. That is if the timing that I'm getting on my Horizon box TV guide is right. I just caught it there.

Stevolende, Saturday, 6 August 2016 10:36 (seven years ago) link

BBC2 had a 10 minute studio commentary after the end of the Ceremony so about 20 minutes from teh end. Not that it's really that relevant unless you get some chance to watch that live again. & it's up on youtube as shown above.
There's a lot of it, with a major drum break in the middle. Seems to cover about 10 minutes end to end.

Stevolende, Saturday, 6 August 2016 11:06 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

So Caetano Veloso released a new live album that features he and his sons called Ofertorio in May 2018 I now see. Sounded good on first listen

curmudgeon, Saturday, 27 October 2018 03:21 (five years ago) link

Who had the idea of ​​this family Ofertório ?

It's me ! After a concert with Moreno a few years ago, it became a dream to do it with my other two sons. I waited for Tom to grow up a bit with his new band. Then, I talked to Zeca, the only one of them who never made a scene or a studio. It is someone who does things seriously, who never engages lightly and his first answer was no. I did not talk to him again. He did it himself, a few months later: he had thought it over and wanted us to try. Tom and Moreno accepted immediately.

Why this title of Ofertório ?

Originally, it's the title of a 1997 song, which I sang once in public, in a church, for my mother's 90th birthday. I wrote the words as if it were she who said them, today, I sing them by addressing directly to my sons. I also picked up the strongest titles I wrote for each of my sons' mothers. The themes of family and friends are at the heart of our repertoire.

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=https://www.telerama.fr/sortir/caetano-veloso-dans-ma-famille,-la-musique-est-quelque-chose-de-sacre,n5715812.php&prev=search

curmudgeon, Saturday, 27 October 2018 03:55 (five years ago) link

Just to say that if this dude has to go into exile again on Sunday he can stay at my apartment no prob.

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 27 October 2018 12:59 (five years ago) link

He's welcome at the next ILB FAP at the Royal Oak too.

Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Saturday, 27 October 2018 13:01 (five years ago) link

The editorial and his recent album are both worth checking out.

curmudgeon, Monday, 29 October 2018 13:24 (five years ago) link

five months pass...

Just saw Caetano Veloso & his sons together onstage last night. A really beautiful sounding evening. While it didn’t have the edgier songs I saw him do in 2010 w/ a young band, last night was lilting melodies, rhythm, harmonies, and familial love and support. Caetano explaining how certain songs were inspired by his kids, wife, ex-wife, and mother. Plus how he’s an atheist but his kids are religious

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 15:06 (five years ago) link

It was pricey but worth it. At 76 He still has a great voice. It was touching and interesting to see him interact with his sons, who are all skilled musicians.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 13:32 (five years ago) link

one year passes...
two months pass...

Just discovered this nice 2020 singer/ guitarist Veloso & clarinetist Ivan Sacerdote album of mostly quiet duet renditions from Veloso’s catalogue. Good for a rainy day. It just got nominated for a Latin Grammy

curmudgeon, Sunday, 11 October 2020 23:26 (three years ago) link

this is very nice

budo jeru, Sunday, 11 October 2020 23:34 (three years ago) link

yup that's a good one

corrs unplugged, Monday, 12 October 2020 11:21 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Chris Richards , Washington Post critic , just put this album with Veloso and Sacerdote in his top 15 for the year

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 17:01 (three years ago) link

seven months pass...

His birthday yesterday! A playlist.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 August 2021 10:34 (two years ago) link

I don't think I've heard either of the 80s albums you mentioned, I'll have to check those out. I also have only ever heard one Maria Bethânia album, A Tua Presença, which I adore (plus Edu & Bethânia, also wonderful)—what of hers do you rate highly?

rob, Sunday, 8 August 2021 14:19 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

Recently found a nice used copy of Circulado, which I hadnt heard before. Article inspired me to put it on and spent all weekend listening to it, great stuff.

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 14 February 2022 17:19 (two years ago) link

That was a good profile, there was a lot I didn't know (such as the fact that he started dating his long-time wife and manager when she was 13 o_O).

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 14 February 2022 17:21 (two years ago) link

"A terceira margem do rio" is a great song from Circulado, what a lovely melody and chord progression (and vocal).

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 02:33 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F0lVCkynWY

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 02:36 (two years ago) link

His album last year, y'all

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 02:39 (two years ago) link

Listen to it.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 02:39 (two years ago) link

"A terceira margem do rio" is a great song from Circulado, what a lovely melody and chord progression (and vocal).
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, February 14, 2022 9:33 PM (forty-nine minutes ago)

It's one of the greatest short stories ever from Brazil, if you ever have a chance to read it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Bank_of_the_River_(short_story). Guimarães Rosa is the greatest.

fpsa, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 03:28 (two years ago) link

love the butch morris cornet & arto guitar on circulado

massaman gai (front tea for two), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 11:16 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

Todays dollar bin Caetano CD find was Omaggio A Federico E Giulietta, a live Fellini tribute from the 90s I had no prior knowledge of. Currently kicking my ass on this warm summer night.

Half a dozen times in the liner essay he laments having vocal troubles on the night of the recording. Maybe I have a tin ear idk, but he still sounds pretty fucking good to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKgnI1q48Rc

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 02:26 (one year ago) link

It's during a phase I think Caetano is really reconnecting with standards as a whole, songs from his childhood radio memories.

A really great one from the same era is Fina Estampa https://www.discogs.com/release/2199404-Caetano-Veloso-Fina-Estampa

These would all be played in the radio when he was young. He discuss this a bit in his bio

fpsa, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 15:53 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tbLX8pyNq4

^ Almost a hit from this record

fpsa, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 15:54 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Have been trawling through his early albums, the ones available on Tidal anyway, and wow Araçá Azul throws you for a curve! Should be mentioned more in discussions of artists making crazy experimental albums at the height of their success.

Lots of good discussion in the early stages of this thread re: Brasil and Japan. One thing that attracts me about both the tropicalistas and the YMO crew is how they accept anglo-american influences as a fact of life but manage to integrate them in a way that still reflects their nationalities instead of seeming in thrall to them. Hardly anyone managed that in Portugal I think - even the greatest music we've produced is either in opposition to these influences or trying to imitate them. Maybe António Variações came closest to offering a synthesis...

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 17 July 2023 13:28 (nine months ago) link

and also in both examples it's not a simple case of "Brazilian or Japanese music with Anglo-American influences", more like a next step that incorporates those influences and also other international ones, at its best seeming to offer an aesthetic if not political way out of being the children of Marx and coca-cola

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 17 July 2023 13:30 (nine months ago) link

I think it all stems from this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifesto_Antrop%C3%B3fago
It's such a big influence on everything artistic Brazil has done since, it's almost like a North Star in a way.

Araçá is awesome - Dominique Leone rightly called it almost a Faust record. Drumming on that record is <3 all time

fpsa, Monday, 17 July 2023 13:31 (nine months ago) link

That Manifesto link is interesting. Thanks

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 02:21 (nine months ago) link

fpsa, are you brazilian / have you lived in brazil?

budo jeru, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 02:38 (nine months ago) link

agree that Araçá Azul is great. my original pressing is one of my prized possessions -- one of a handful acquired at tropicalia in furs in NYC

budo jeru, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 02:40 (nine months ago) link

gonna throw that on now, thanks thread

prob discussed earlier but his autobiography is great, recommended

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 02:42 (nine months ago) link

yep, I'm brazilian! I'm from Pernambuco, northeast

but I'm living in NYC for the last 6 years.

Verdade tropical is all time. the prison chapter is just heartbreaking. but a lot of what makes it great is also in the chapters about his youth and formation, and his love of joão gilberto. it's such a great microcosmos on what his vision (and everybody else near him, to be honest) was like

fpsa, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 03:25 (nine months ago) link

agreed, and iirc it discusses that same manifesto?

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 03:31 (nine months ago) link

yes, it does. the manisfesto is a huge thing here – it all relates to an idea of what constitutes modernism for Brazil, a few decades out of being under Portugal and being a nation, and facing industrialization and what constituted our identity.

macunaíma, the novel, is a clear manifestation of these ideas early on – it's pretty clear the connection here to Tropicália
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/07/books/mario-de-andrade-macunaima-apprentice-tourist.html There's also the movie from 69, recently restored https://mubi.com/films/macunaima https://www.bam.org/film/2023/macunaima

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1973 was a great year for weirder, bold albums in general - here's a cool collection of them: https://musica.uol.com.br/noticias/redacao/2013/07/03/experimentalismo-censura-e-partes-intimas-artistas-revelam-segredos-de-5-capas-classicas-da-mpb.htm

joão donato - quem é quem. rip, just died today, a rã is brazil in less than 3 minutes. bossa nova heavyweight/pianist extraordinaire goes funky and moody. a lot of counterpoints, syncopation but so tight and breezy.
milton nascimento - milagre dos peixes. if you love rock bottom, r. wyatt, and the most floating/wordless stuff beach boys done such as surf's up or cabinessence, go for this asap.
gal costa - índia (<3 relance)
araçá azul
tom zé - todos os olhos (best(? sad really) song ever about torture and hopelessness, the title track here)
walter franco - ou não (nww list record, warped mpb/rock record)
paulinho da viola – nervos de aço (samba-canção from the greatest)
luiz melodia - "pérola negra" swinging/moody popsoulrock record, Rio de Janeiro at 3am, boozy melancholy vibe. amazing
joão gilberto - s/t (the white album)
tim maia - st (tim in front of a forest) party record all time
Novos Baianos - Novos Baianos F.C.
the satwa record (hometown shoutout!)

fpsa, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 04:02 (nine months ago) link

see also: Marconi Notaro!

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 04:18 (nine months ago) link


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