'Marquee Moon' LP is overrated

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i can imagine the shimmery part around 8:20 (?) sounding totally sublime under those circumstances.

― Mayor Manuel (La Lechera), Tuesday, April 8, 2014 3:21 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Indeed it did; and the pause between that and the drums' re-entrance was just, I mean, I think I was holding my breath.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 19:33 (ten years ago) link

And punk in the best way. Like when it mattered for a band to show that you could work with the absolute basics. And that those basics were beautiful.

timellison, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 19:33 (ten years ago) link

Have you read interview with Verlaine in that book, Feeding Back? Interesting stuff about his approach to guitar.

You Never Even POLL Me By My Screenname (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 19:44 (ten years ago) link

No, would like to see that.

timellison, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 20:00 (ten years ago) link

that whole book is good. verlaine's is far from the most forthcoming interview, but that's no surprise.

tylerw, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 20:01 (ten years ago) link

Believe he says something to the effect that he took a big piece of paper in the shape of a guitar neck, wrote the names of the notes and pasted it on a wall, studied it and made up his own stuff based on that instead of playing the same chord voicings he might have gotten from somewhere else.

You Never Even POLL Me By My Screenname (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 20:04 (ten years ago) link

(That was xp)
Tyler otm. Discussions are a good mix of guys talking about the creative inspirational side and the technical side. Sometimes you get one or you get the other or you get an oil and vinegar mix but here you really feel like they are talking about where the rubber meets the road.

You Never Even POLL Me By My Screenname (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 20:10 (ten years ago) link

the urinalysis of fire (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 23:20 (ten years ago) link

Sorry

the urinalysis of fire (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 23:20 (ten years ago) link

. that part sounds like a burst of Fichelscher-era Popol Vuh to me (shimmery pastoral guitars, even if it's just for a tiny moment)

I always think of this part as a callback to the many moments of birdsong imitation in romantic music like Mahler Delius Wagner etc where the strings get all hushed and the woodwinds imitate birdies. But it does sound like Danny too!

the urinalysis of fire (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 23:23 (ten years ago) link

They always sound punk even in the midst of major pastoralism.

That's ludicrous to me. The basics need to have a component of ugliness.

The boots I heard sound a lot better - a sound which is hinted at and not really captured on the LP.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 09:10 (ten years ago) link

I don't know, maybe I shouldn't have said always. And maybe pastoralism isn't quite right either. I hear "Venus" and it sounds like a breakthrough, though. There's bite to the guitars and the whole thing is stark and skeletal.

timellison, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 18:17 (ten years ago) link

Its true there is a bite at times...thinking about it, sorry I called it 'ludicrous'...more like er, interesting word choices...

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 19:49 (ten years ago) link

that part sounds like a burst of Fichelscher-era Popol Vuh to me (shimmery pastoral guitars, even if it's just for a tiny moment)

Meanwhile, the second half of "Du tränke mich mit Deinen Küssen" (on "Das Hohelied Salomos"), when the guitars start kicking in, always reminds me of Television.

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 April 2014 11:50 (ten years ago) link


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