a thread of serious discussion re ethan's permaban for image spamming

perhaps the SB system is more something that causes the mods to subsequently judge the banned poster to see if it should in fact be permanent?

This is the way I've been looking at it; that's not a formal policy so I don't feel comfortable stating definitively "yes, this is what it is supposed to do" but, quite frankly, I don't think anyone wants a situation where no one can reverse a ban automatically enacted by software.

Perhaps I should have stated my position on this elsewhere; I didn't because a) I am not "the leader of the mods" and don't want to speak for them without reaching some form of consensus, and b) the point seems self-evident and obvious to me and I thought it would be kind of insulting to everyone's intelligence to state it.

so maybe the 51 should trigger a mod discussion about the poster and course of action rather than an automatic ban and the mods having to say "yeah we're taking a look at it"?

cause as long as those automatic bans are happening we're gonna be having regularly scheduled ILX clusterfuck days.

It's either on as it is now, or off.

yeah that's what we need now is a function on ILX to trigger MORE discussions about the suggest ban feature

well since the mods are already taking this course of action my point is that maybe it should not be public until they've decided if the person is gonna get to come back or not. or have you enjoyed ilx so far today?

I have!

but I couldn't care less about any of the mod shit or who's banned or not banned or who's been sending nasty e-mails to each other. couldn't care less about the regular "but what does ILX as a community MEAN" type threads.

that's just me though.

so um how do I look up how many people have SB'd me haha....

dude how are they going to "not make it public"

recode the feature? how the fuck should i know?

all i'm saying is that if ethan has been banned but the mods talked about it and he'll probably come back then the whole site got clusterfucked today for basically no reason.

or i guess 'the second half of today's clusterfuck'

^^^posts that totally help ilx not be a clusterfuck

1) The site got "clusterfucked" largely because of Ethan spamming a bunch of threads.
2) Most of the ongoing discussions today have not been about Ethan's banning, or Dom's banning.

Ten to fifteen people are screaming very loudly about this in as many places as they can while most of the rest of the posting population is doing their own thing. It's only a clusterfuck because you're following the clusterfuck threads.

tbh i would have preferred the "what do balearic listeners look like" clusterfuck over this one

recode the feature!!! snip snap just like that get to it you lazy bums. of course keep in mind that when these things weren't appearing on an admin log as soon as they occurred a separate set of ppl whined about it so figure out a way to make both things happen ok.

the site got "clusterfucked" because dom passantino, who is not going to be coming back, at all, was banned and ethan threw a bitchfit over it and hilariously started spamming every single thread on the board! no matter what happened it was going to devolve into a hot mess, dude. most of the ppl over here right now are doing this for laughs.

max go kneejerk yourself in the face already, i believe you were asked to do so over an HOUR ago and you're still here posting.

cmon schef you know i didn't mean it like that.

xpost dan i hear you and i think you're doing a really great job today.

maybe it's overly posi or naive to think that participation in these threads is indicative of investment in the site? i honestly think that most people who have been involved in this discussion are interested in ensuring that this kind of stuff doesn't continue to happen, which under the current system it most certainly will.

suggest clusterfuck

lol i know i'm just messin with u

honestly i'm just involved in this discussion because i'm hungover, not wanting to do my real actual job, and i find this hilarious

s'cool i just dont want to be confused with being a mod scold!

and yeah this is most of my day because i haven't had any actual work to do for about a month.

Right this debate is totally impossible to follow so I'm locking all the threads and keeping this one open. If you want to continue arguing, by all means use this thread.

every time you post, i become more galvanized in my support of suggest bans just to spite you.

― panfalutin' (jjjusten), Thursday, March 5, 2009 3:04 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is sort of a rude thing to say, for a mod

rude isn't the word that comes to mind for me.

taking this here coz of lockage:

Also this:

"like one of the board's most recognizable posters was banned and it was expected that people would just continue to chat about lost or prince vs. bowie or something?"

Like YES THEY ARE. All over the boards right now! Dozens if not hundreds of them!

― Roque Santa Gold (Matt DC), Thursday, March 5, 2009 8:41 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this just isn't true, is it?

ilx may have thousands of registered voters, but there's a core of lifers and their views are more important than the randoms. many of the lifers hate each other, though, and eventually they will s-ban each other to death -- as has happened with ethan and tuomas -- leaving the board to go to seed.

im not disputing that dom is a terrible sociopath but he's also one of the people who makes the board a funnier place, and should be let back eventually imho.

yes i am glad you took my serious comment seriously max

So this has hit:

l0u1s jagg3r
deeznuts
gabbneb
tuomas
ethan
(plus Dom for good measure.)

Did I miss anyone?

the late_great burt_stanton

also dom was not the person who had 10 socks to s-ban tuomas. dan seemed pretty blase that this was possible, but it will end up with lots of people getting got.

I can't say I am crying any tears here for anyone on this list (except ethan, I guess, but I can't really argue that he didn't have it coming--plus apparently he doesn't really like me aaah still hurts.)

I assumed burt was a LJ sock actually.

hay who lockd the suggest ban sucks (unban LJ) thread - that thread should be unlockd def think of the lolz

but there's a core of lifers and their views are more important than the randoms

how do you actually physically type this and not realize that you are being a huge cock

it's called irony you stupid fuck

no it isnt its called entitlement and you seem to be particularly swimming in it today

everyones taking everyones serious posts seriously, looks like

serious posting is serious

I'm really thinking of people like, say, Tim F or M1ke J0nes or loads of other people who never get involved here. Not that I'm second guessing the opinions of either of those posters, they're just the first people who came to mind.

i think we should discuss irony

there's a core of lifers and their views are more important than the randoms.

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Thursday, March 5, 2009 12:26 PM Site michael has been banned permanently.

whos this guy

he called the board gay.

who is mike jones?

there is a more nuanced version of some posters are more important than others in there somewhere but damned if i'm gonna figure out what it is. esp since i am not an important poster.

Guys,

ILX has tried the sappy laissez faire "oh but we should DISCUSS THIS first" shit for years. It never worked.

Letting Graham rule the fate of ILX back in 2002 due to Buffy videos kinda proved the first moderators couldn't get their act together. They were excellent creators. But not great moderators.

...

Ironically, actual banning is triggering all this discussion and "REAL TALK" that many of you are asking.

And I'm speaking as someone who's sad to see some of these SB-banned people banned!

You guys act like being banned from ILX is a BAD THING!

actually max, you posted mine out of context to stir shit, and special guest stars is retreating to the safety of joeks bruv because he doesnt want to cop to the fact that he thinks that people that arent on his radar are as important as his sweetheart dom

but you know whatever way you want to spin it is fine too.

A lifer.

Ah, fuck's sake, that "a lifer" was in reply to H's question about Mike Jones but the xpost warning doesn't work on the iPhone, or something. Still, what's one weirdly surreal comment in the middle of a thread like this?

omfg you did not just call anyone a "lifer"

ban this sick fuck

special guest stars is retreating to the safety of joeks bruv because he doesnt want to cop to the fact that he thinks that people that arent on his radar are as important as his sweetheart dom

i'm holding the idea in tweezers but yeah: regular long-term posters' views are more important than those of noobs. my radar is pretty capacious, and im not saying only lifers whose work i admire should be listened to. not displaying favouritism dom at all. this is how the board has always worked, and it's how dom and eth's terrible shit has been tolerated in the past.

who is mike jones?

don't act like you don't know his name

is this poetry?

aw god bless drunky treesh shantih shantih x

if you want a ban you need to be racist drunk, not just stupid drunk

Lol

Threesheets Billboards

there has to be something i can do besides say something racist

Earnestly but naively question whether something is really racist

But you'll have to be quick connect gabnebb to it

Connect/to beat

I don’t want an ignominious ban.

If at all possible I’d like to be banned for an act of heroism.

Take Turrican out in a suicide mish

zapatrísta

Save the racists

The blather the 'son, ' and the holy post

If you think about it, who are the real racists?

treesh, you can always self-deport self-ban, at least for as long as you can stand it. you've done it before, so you know the drill. Or you could confine your SNA to a couple of less-trafficked side boards for a while and see how that works for you. try getting out of the house w/o a phone more often. it helps.

because I appreciate your presence here, I won't fp/sb you.

lol, just seeing this. How about a yellow-card instead?

Intriguing. What do I gain from that?

Membership

two yellow cards = 1 red = 1 match ban laddie

it goes up depending if there was aggression or violence involved

don't listen to "darraghmac"

he is trolling like always

did the get the "hoss" yellow card?

I liked the one I got that said something like "thank you for you contributions to I Love Music" -- can you give me that one again?

Oh yeah, I remember that time. ILAFL had unleashed its trademark japery on some poor innocent ilm thread so I gave you all yellowcards of orchestra student gifts.

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