Mike Trout needs his own thread

cameron's a nut tbh

@robneyer
Hey let's make a list of the DUMBEST baseball players! Starting with silly Mike Trout and addle-minded Dustin Pedroia!

@robneyer
Also, in addition to not understanding how you CRITICIZE a player for agreeing to be paid $140 million ...

@robneyer
... I don't understand why people so obsessed with who makes what, who makes the most, etc. At this point dollars are practically the same.

@robneyer
also I just learned on Twitter that $140 million does not constitute "a huge payday."

Brian Bannister is on Twitter, btw.

@RealBanny
@DCameronFG He just secured more money than many HOF players made in their entire careers combined. The game has changed a lot #perspective

I officially give up trying to weigh these contracts. My first thought on Trout was that, in light of Cabrera, he could have gotten much, much more. (Because really, who can get by on $140 million?) But yes, this frees him up for a zillion dollars when he's 28.

This young man will just have to learn how to save up to get something really nice for himself.

neyer otm

i really don't think people should write these sorts of dumb columns about how much money he COULD make unless they were gonna talk about all the ways to uniquely use that money, like "buy a koch brother" or "how many islands"

"at this point, only trout's great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandchildren are set for life. but if he just held out a bit longer, his great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandchildren and maybe even his great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandchildren could've also been set for life"

"how will trout's legacy last centuries into the nuclear wasteland human extinction era if he takes his payday now? his money won't even have a chance to lose all symbolic value!"

lol otm

i think it's fair to wonder as an exercise how much money trout could have gotten... it's not like it's something that agents and players don't think about?

i don't think "mike trout just signed for less money than jacoby ellsbury" is a facile point

Normally I don't care about the money end at all, but with Trout and Cabrera signing a couple of days apart--it's almost like a private joke they worked out between themselves--comparisons are inevitable.

Congrats to the Angels, by the way.

Less money than Ellsbury isn't a good comparison, nor is Cabrera's contract. Arbitration wasn't going to pay him $20mn per.

well fortunately i got mlb.tv to work just in time for that opening blast

mmm, precious rbis

Footage of him running around the stadium with his younger cousins before the contract signing press conference was kind of adorable

TROUT

did he do something else or are you just now responding to the HR please keep things up to date in the mike trout thread

don't think so, just got home and saw he homered in his first AB

HE JSUT GOT A SINGLE HE IS SO GOOD

Dave Cameron: I think making life decisions that involve intentionally taking less money than possible are generally as a positive character trait. On the other hand, one could argue that Trout had some responsibility to help elevate the pay scale for those that come after him. It depends on your perspective.

what

Fuck this guy. I am trading him off of my team in MLB 14: The Show as soon as I get home.

dave cameron needs to get out of his parents' basement, etc. etc.

dave cameron is a good baseball writer, just for the record

trout has a responsibility to the future once in a generation talents who FUCKING SHATTER all arb records that came before them. ok thanks comrade dave cameron.

How is MBT: TS 14?

i am bored so i just clocked trout's time around the bases on his triple last night, from contact until he slid into third, and got 11.6. that's really fast, right?

very sad MLB TS 14 for PS4 doesn't come out for another month, I won't be able to rig a bullshit trade between the Angels and Giants for Trout for 27 more days.

that dave cameron point is weird, i don't think he believes that

dave cameron is also the best baseball writer on the planet

he's alright, he is just really weird about money things and gets totally anchored down by fangraphs' trademarks, ie using fWAR as an unquestioned be-all end-all thing that never really requires any further analysis beyond the x.x figure. which isn't surprising, he's gotta support the company product, but it's annoying. and in his chats he comes off as possibly the most humorless and irritable human being in the world (and every answer essentially boils down to "just look at the fWAR figure/look at what ZiPS projects the fWAR figure to be")

that said, this fangraphs article is a fun read that will try to convince you that mike trout will either die horribly or end up as one of the 5 greatest hitters of all time. amazing thing is it doesn't even begin to consider position/defense/baserunning, just pure offense.

you're referring to the one that deals in cumulative standard deviations, right? yeah that line near the end where he (not dave cameron, it was another writer) was like "remember, trout could die in a plane crash tomorrow" or something to that effect was like...ok man you don't really need to cover ALL the bases

Cameron got tot ridiculed by a speaker at a SABR convention a few years ago

to be fair he had to mention "tragedy" cause conigliaro came up as an obvious comp

http://mlb.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pMLB2-15123593dt.jpg

http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t427/sayhey1/trout_zps8d9134c7.jpg

I was more of an APBA guy myself.

dude continues to hit really long home runs

@Trouty20
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welp

You found his one weakness.

K'd 3x by Scherzer

4 Ks in the game, first time

seems like he either mashes the ball or whiffs this year. actually include the last month of last year too iirc

'nother hat trick tonight

He made a point of saying he was going to be more aggressive before the season, so maybe 150 Ks a year will be normal for him now. Everything else seems in order, although you would think it'd be harder to keep his average up in the .325 range the more he strikes out.

he's charging toward a 30% strikeout rate...with pujols going gangbusters, he's not going to walk like he did last year. eventually this is going to be a problem

it's been like 3 games

his K rate was >23% the last 2 months of last season too. it's a real trend

bring it up again when he isn't leading the league in WAR