Rolling Metal Thread 2014

This new Black Sabbath box is tempting. Anyone know of reasons not to get it? I only have 5 out of 8 of these albums, all older pre-remastered CD's.

Absolutely get it – if all you've heard are the pre-remastered CDs, the remasters are a revelation. I thought I hated "Changes" for years until I heard it how it was meant to be heard.

Brickwalled to death?

The Sabbath reissues? No way, they sound fantastic.

I've never heard the remasters that occurred between the original releases and the 2009 "deluxe edition" remasters; I can only say that the latter, on Sanctuary, sound amazing and are pretty much universally lauded (and preferred) on audiophile forums. On Amazon their prices vary all over the place. You have to search for "black sabbath + album title + deluxe edition" to bring them up. It'll say "import" in parentheses.

I however am by no means an audiophile and listen to my CDs on a $200 bookshelf system. All I know is that they sound great.

I've heard that the Rules of Hell box set had a similar remastering to the pre-2009 remasters and those do sort of have that compressed, grating sound that people love to complain about. Obviously though those had a totally different textural approach from the start, much more modern and crunchy. Your mileage may vary. Some of my descriptors could very well be results of placebo effect. ("Vinyl is warmer!" "Soundstage!" "Presence!" Etc.)

http://www.black-sabbath.com/2014/03/complete-albums-1970-1978-details/

This is NOT a new remastering. This is the same remastering work done around 2001/2002 which was used in 2002′s “Symptom of the Universe: The Original Black Sabbath“, 2004′s “Black Box“, & 2006′s “Greatest Hits 1970-1978“.

Ah, cool.

(But Changes still sucks and will always suck.)

I have affection for "Changes," it's corny as fuck and kind of cynical but it has that Sabbathian earnestness

I like the chorus a lot, the verse reminds me too much of a dude singing cabaret tunes

Hm, I am intrigued to hear what the remastered guitar tones sound like. (Was listening to Sabbath this morning, coincidentally.)

I had a chance to buy the 2004 box set from the local indie store, slept on it, andi t's gone now, so may have to jump on this, bare-bones or not.

I find "Changes" a bit of a canker in Vol. 4's starting lineup too. If it weren't Sabbath, I'd probably not have given it a second listen.

My local shop had some great stuff in stock today. Sodom's Persecution Mania, incredible record.

I love Persecution Mania. Kind of marked the switch from the evil-and-magic to the war-obsessed period of their lyrics and imagery. One of my favorite bass sounds on that one.

For the other fans of German threshing machine Beyond, here's some recent live footage:
http://youtu.be/1SKEODb3m4U

iPhone audio quality notwithstanding, the cameraperson did a phenomenal job of shooting this thing. Just the right amount of movement, lots of perfectly framed shots of the entire band, crowd pans (I see the American crowd apathy has finally hit Germany), overall high video quality. And really, Beyond's gonna sound the same whether they're coming out of a clock radio or a multi thousand dollar system.

Argh it cuts off during "Merciless at Heart."

Also, having wised up and plugged in my external speakers, this sound quality is better than I'd thought. Works really well for this kind of music.

ROCKSTAR ENERGY DRINK MAIN STAGE:
Avenged Sevenfold
Korn
Asking Alexandria
Trivium

COLDCOCK AMERICAN HERBAL WHISKEY STAGE:
Cannibal Corpse
Suicide Silence
Miss May I
Mushroomhead
Texas Hippie Coalition
King 810

THE SUMERIAN RECORDS/HEADBANG FOR THE HIGHWAY STAGE:
Body Count featuring Ice-T
Upon A Burning Body*
Veil of Maya*
Darkest Hour*
Headbang Local Winner

THE VICTORY RECORDS STAGE:
Emmure
Ill Nino
Wretched
Islander
Erimha

I have like zero need to go. Okay, I'd probably see Body Count for old time's sake, but not here.

there is not enough coldcock american herbal whiskey in the world to get me to sit through 90% of that lineup

Only turds would go to that

Hey, good for Cannibal Corpse, not much competition.

I guess even the decent bands on Sumerian (Animals as Leaders, Dillinger Escape Plan0 had the good sense to stay away from that turd.

Bands I would willingly see:

Trivium
Cannibal Corpse
Body Count featuring Ice-T
Veil of Maya
Emmure
Wretched

But since it's only coming two the two least accessible local dumps (Jones Beach and Camden, NJ), I won't be going anyhow.

Id like to see album sales for the mid to large metal bands the past decade. I dunno why but I'm thinking the "big" bands most recent albums haven't sold as well as previous ones?

A few years ago in the queue for Supersonic the guys I was talking to asked the question "have Napalm Death" sold a million records. We decided they must have, but had no idea when.

Dunno what happened to the quotes there...

seen CC six times, and would not want to see them there. skip

Cannibal Corpse aside, that is absolutely dismal.

Thanks to Aero and Contenderizer for the Autopsy recommendation. That was exactly the sort of thing I was looking for in terms of Obliteration influences.

ahhh yeah, you can't go wrong there!

Finally got round to listening to the Morbus Chron record which I was really enjoying til I picked up on a crazy high pitched pre-ringing on the cymbals. I'll probably never be able to listen to it again now. :/

Are you a dog?

This news bummed me out.

Takafumi Matsubara forced to retire

I don't even like grindcore but the recent Gridlink was stunning.

That's horrible...

You can stream the new collaborative EP from The Body and Thou here:
http://www.invisibleoranges.com/2014/04/premiere-thou-the-body-released-from-love

holy shit @ Vic Chesnutt cover

The Body and Thou cover Vic Chesnutt? I think I just peed myself a little. Hell yeah.

I am organizing some CDs - recent arrivals and stuff I am returning to the shelves.

Where does KK Null go in your guys collections? I am going with N but I can be persuaded the other direction...

I vote N.

I file Alice Cooper under C, even though I only own the Alice Cooper band cds and not any later solo Alice stuff besides what's on the box set.

Yesterday was supposed to be the release of Entombed - Back To The Front on Century Media. No mention of it anywhere other than Amazon, including the Century Media site. Google shows something about the band splitting into two. Did the label drop them? Nice cover art - http://www.nocleansinging.com/2013/11/11/entombed-vulture-and-the-traitor/

man that nux vomica record rules

it's ok so far

seems too… slow

that...changes!

i'm already on track 3/3! i mean there are places faster beats. it's just so leisurely.

I was not impressed by what I heard of the Nux Vomica.

i have a weird head cold, i can't hear the bass in anything

the really agitated part is more compelling

but basically long postrock arc structures are i dunno, the lowest form of longform musical organization (nb this leaves 'just one thing after another' in a more exalted position as far as structures go)

yes the Nux Vomica is cool.. I thought it would sound different than they described it, buy yet that description is still fitting. otm on the long structures.. it does seem long for longness sake.

i am like allergic to long post-rocky structures and i am really digging this record, idk

thoughts on the new Eyehategod?

Haven't gotten through it yet. First four or five tracks sound like an Eyehategod record, more Confederacy than Dopesick.

Mansion Congregation Hymns is fucking awesome, definitely my favourite thing I've heard this year. Crazy energy on this.

Can be heard here, btw: https://archive.org/details/SoggyBog164TheMansionCongregationFisterTriptykonTheOathAndMore