"This Mortal Coil" under "this", yes
"Thee Oh Sees" are under "thee", right after "The The"
― sleeve, Friday, 28 March 2014 16:40 (ten years ago) link
With 'thee' I give credence to the band clearly making a "thing" about the word, so I put them under T. I don't think I own any records by Th' Faith Healers, and can't think of any other bands that do that. Not sure what I'd do. Probably F.
― emil.y, Friday, 28 March 2014 16:46 (ten years ago) link
yeah I wound do F for that as well, it's a fine line
― sleeve, Friday, 28 March 2014 16:46 (ten years ago) link
th' inbred was the other band i had in mind, old 80s band on alt tentacles
― narcissism of vas deferenses (NickB), Friday, 28 March 2014 16:48 (ten years ago) link
seems I have Th'Faith Healers under F... L'Acephale (from the US) under A, L'Altra (from the US) under L. can't deal w/ this
― From Tha Crouuuch To Da Palacios (DJ Mencap), Friday, 28 March 2014 17:14 (ten years ago) link
but band names that are people's names (hello John Sims) would be under the first letter of the whole thing.
PJ Harvey?
I don't have anything by Thee Oh Sees, but I do have Thee Silver Mt. Zion etc. -- which gets back to the issue of band names starting with "A" or "An," my solution being to file it under "S".
― Leeee with three E's with 3 spelled out (Leee), Friday, 28 March 2014 17:36 (ten years ago) link
This Mortal Coil unequivocally belongs under "T," btw.
― Leeee with three E's with 3 spelled out (Leee), Friday, 28 March 2014 17:37 (ten years ago) link
funny i feel like i file silver mt zion under S - it wasn't always "thee" was it? used to be "a" silver mt zion?
― marcos, Friday, 28 March 2014 17:37 (ten years ago) link
Most of my records have plain sleeves so just cant look down the spines anyway
More and more i like the idea of painting over the middles of the records and forgetting things like the names of them, but just associating them with whatever is painted there
― cog, Friday, 28 March 2014 17:39 (ten years ago) link
Yes and yes.
― Leeee with three E's with 3 spelled out (Leee), Friday, 28 March 2014 17:40 (ten years ago) link
PJ Harvey's real last name is Harvey iirc, so she goes under 'H"
― sleeve, Friday, 28 March 2014 17:42 (ten years ago) link
PJ Harvey is the name of the artist, not a fictional name. So it'd be under Harvey. If you choose to call your band your own name then you're treating everyone else as a session player; don't then try to say "but it's a band".
xp
― emil.y, Friday, 28 March 2014 17:43 (ten years ago) link
what about e.g. The Charlie Daniels Band?
― invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 17:51 (ten years ago) link
"D" for me, although I don't have any of those records
like "Baker-Gurvitz Army" would be under 'B"
― sleeve, Friday, 28 March 2014 17:56 (ten years ago) link
PJ Harvey is/was ostensibly a band, though. Still, despite protestations from Peej Pedants, though, most people treat it as a solo act, and not the best example in this case.
A more straightforward example: how do we file Dave Matthews Band Name Your Reasons Why They Are So Bad & Hated?
― Leeee with three E's with 3 spelled out (Leee), Friday, 28 March 2014 17:56 (ten years ago) link
basically if there is a real name in my collection, it goes under last name regardless of individual vs. band semantics
― sleeve, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:00 (ten years ago) link
what about "mr" and "mister", like would I file it (for example), mister mister/momus/mr airplane man OR momus/mr airplane man/mister mister. St Vincent before or after saint vitus?
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:00 (ten years ago) link
hahaha jeez I have no idea
― sleeve, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:01 (ten years ago) link
subjectively:
Mister/Momus/Mr
Saint/St
― sleeve, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:02 (ten years ago) link
sir you are history's greatest monster
― invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:03 (ten years ago) link
hey you gotta break some eggs to make an omelet
― sleeve, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:04 (ten years ago) link
Move over, Jimmy Carter! xp
― Leeee with three E's with 3 spelled out (Leee), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:05 (ten years ago) link
Daniels Band, Charlie, TheMatthews Band, Dave, The
Lee, re: PJ Harvey, I repeat: If you choose to call your band your own name then you're treating everyone else as a session player; don't then try to say "but it's a band".
Mr & St I think I expand into 'mister' and 'saint', but I'd have to check, it doesn't come up much.
― emil.y, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:06 (ten years ago) link
because a band name might look the same as one of the band members doesn't mean that the band name is doing the same thing as the person's name
― invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:07 (ten years ago) link
what about the Freddy Jones Band, noted chicago roots rockers. No member of the band is named Freddy Jones.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:09 (ten years ago) link
Burrito Brothers, The Flying
― invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:11 (ten years ago) link
AKA "Oh and by the way, which one's Freddy?"
SMH, Noodle.
― Leeee with three E's with 3 spelled out (Leee), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:11 (ten years ago) link
I think half the reason I don't own any records by excellent Danish jazz bassist Niels-Henning Ørsted Pedersen is bc no one knows where to file him alphabetically (and neither would I!!!!)
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:12 (ten years ago) link
Floyd, Pink
― marcos, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:12 (ten years ago) link
I already dealt with this stuff, guys! Read the bloody thread.
― emil.y, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:13 (ten years ago) link
can see the value in keeping your Alice Cooper and your Cooper, Alice records separate tho
― invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:13 (ten years ago) link
Most single-artist pseudonyms I would file like real names with surname first, but band names that are people's names (hello John Sims) would be under the first letter of the whole thing.
So if it's a fictional name that covers the band, it's the first fucking letter.
PJ Harvey doesn't get a pass, sorry. She chose to do it that way, that's the way it's gonna be.
― emil.y, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:14 (ten years ago) link
I was looking for one of his LPs recently and looked in H, O, and P and couldn't find it. Turns out there was a scratched copy but it was filed in under the section of one of the sidemen (after someone got frustrated with the conundrum probably)
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:14 (ten years ago) link
emily i don't agree if you mean "treating everybody as a session player" - yr status in a band is defined by contractual or other remunerative things, not the name of the band
― invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:15 (ten years ago) link
i file randomly.
makes the hunt for a particular cd a lot more fun.
― mark e, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:16 (ten years ago) link
yr status in a band is defined by contractual or other remunerative things
Okay, I know you're talking about "real bands" with "real contracts" playing "real music" or whatever here, but that is so completely a) unlike any band experience I've ever had, and b) unromantic. ;_;
― emil.y, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:16 (ten years ago) link
actually not earning any money is a good counter to my theory, must rethink
― invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:17 (ten years ago) link
anyway, yr status in the band isn't about the band name, people might just mutually decide that one of them has a really cool name, like Dave Killdozer or Gary Modern Jazz Quartet
― invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:18 (ten years ago) link
^__^
― emil.y, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:18 (ten years ago) link
Yeah but what about PJ Harvey?
― Leeee with three E's with 3 spelled out (Leee), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:19 (ten years ago) link
/ducks
― Leeee with three E's with 3 spelled out (Leee), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:20 (ten years ago) link
ya know, most of these problems are solved with a "file under first name only" system, but I am just not ready for that part of the 21st century
our radio station switched over to first name filing a couple of years ago because that's how iTunes works
― sleeve, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:28 (ten years ago) link
(assuming you don't change the CDDB tags)
― sleeve, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:29 (ten years ago) link
yeah as i say i feel like first names is the most consistent way to go
― invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:31 (ten years ago) link
But what about PJ Harvey (& John Parish) re: file by first name?
http://blu.stb.s-msn.com/i/CE/BDEF77ADBC4FCF24487FB64DB4A6B0.jpghttp://cdn.stereogum.com/files/2009/03/pj_harvey-a_man_a_woman.jpg
Their fault for changing the order of their names?
― Leeee with three E's with 3 spelled out (Leee), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:37 (ten years ago) link
i assume the change in order indicates significant differences between the two projects and wd file them separately accordingly
― invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:40 (ten years ago) link
I file it under the "spotify" icon
― every moser (wins), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:44 (ten years ago) link
yeah this, see also the 3 David Tibet/Steven Stapleton albums which I think are in different order depending
― sleeve, Friday, 28 March 2014 21:35 (ten years ago) link
I'm proud of myself. I now group all Bill Callahan and Smog records together, under C. Asmus Tietchens and Hematic Sunsets records together, under T.
― nerve_pylon, Friday, 28 March 2014 21:49 (ten years ago) link
if you file by upc code number, all of these problems are immediately solved.
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 28 March 2014 21:50 (ten years ago) link