Filing your music alphabetically - C/D?

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lol just remembered any band name starting with "A (other word/s)" gets filed under "A", as in A Primary Industry. it's so much less common than 'The".

sleeve, Friday, 28 March 2014 16:01 (ten years ago) link

do you treat "this" like "the?"
right now "this mortal coil" is under the T section

chinavision!, Friday, 28 March 2014 16:20 (ten years ago) link

For me, it's only 'the' and foreign permutations of. A Certain Ratio would be under A. I realise the difficulty with La Düsseldorf's double linguistic thing, but I won't change my mind. Even though it makes La! Neu? even more difficult to file.

emil.y, Friday, 28 March 2014 16:29 (ten years ago) link

what about 'thee' which is just a silly way of spelling 'the' in the circumstances?

narcissism of vas deferenses (NickB), Friday, 28 March 2014 16:36 (ten years ago) link

"th'" is the most annoying thing actually

narcissism of vas deferenses (NickB), Friday, 28 March 2014 16:39 (ten years ago) link

Avoid this conundrum by boycotting artists who do that.

i reject your shiny expensive consumerist stereo system (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 28 March 2014 16:40 (ten years ago) link

"This Mortal Coil" under "this", yes

"Thee Oh Sees" are under "thee", right after "The The"

sleeve, Friday, 28 March 2014 16:40 (ten years ago) link

With 'thee' I give credence to the band clearly making a "thing" about the word, so I put them under T. I don't think I own any records by Th' Faith Healers, and can't think of any other bands that do that. Not sure what I'd do. Probably F.

emil.y, Friday, 28 March 2014 16:46 (ten years ago) link

yeah I wound do F for that as well, it's a fine line

sleeve, Friday, 28 March 2014 16:46 (ten years ago) link

th' inbred was the other band i had in mind, old 80s band on alt tentacles

narcissism of vas deferenses (NickB), Friday, 28 March 2014 16:48 (ten years ago) link

seems I have Th'Faith Healers under F... L'Acephale (from the US) under A, L'Altra (from the US) under L. can't deal w/ this

From Tha Crouuuch To Da Palacios (DJ Mencap), Friday, 28 March 2014 17:14 (ten years ago) link

but band names that are people's names (hello John Sims) would be under the first letter of the whole thing.

PJ Harvey?

I don't have anything by Thee Oh Sees, but I do have Thee Silver Mt. Zion etc. -- which gets back to the issue of band names starting with "A" or "An," my solution being to file it under "S".

Leeee with three E's with 3 spelled out (Leee), Friday, 28 March 2014 17:36 (ten years ago) link

This Mortal Coil unequivocally belongs under "T," btw.

Leeee with three E's with 3 spelled out (Leee), Friday, 28 March 2014 17:37 (ten years ago) link

funny i feel like i file silver mt zion under S - it wasn't always "thee" was it? used to be "a" silver mt zion?

marcos, Friday, 28 March 2014 17:37 (ten years ago) link

Most of my records have plain sleeves so just cant look down the spines anyway

More and more i like the idea of painting over the middles of the records and forgetting things like the names of them, but just associating them with whatever is painted there

cog, Friday, 28 March 2014 17:39 (ten years ago) link

funny i feel like i file silver mt zion under S - it wasn't always "thee" was it? used to be "a" silver mt zion?

Yes and yes.

Leeee with three E's with 3 spelled out (Leee), Friday, 28 March 2014 17:40 (ten years ago) link

PJ Harvey's real last name is Harvey iirc, so she goes under 'H"

sleeve, Friday, 28 March 2014 17:42 (ten years ago) link

PJ Harvey?

PJ Harvey is the name of the artist, not a fictional name. So it'd be under Harvey. If you choose to call your band your own name then you're treating everyone else as a session player; don't then try to say "but it's a band".

xp

emil.y, Friday, 28 March 2014 17:43 (ten years ago) link

what about e.g. The Charlie Daniels Band?

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 17:51 (ten years ago) link

"D" for me, although I don't have any of those records

like "Baker-Gurvitz Army" would be under 'B"

sleeve, Friday, 28 March 2014 17:56 (ten years ago) link

PJ Harvey is/was ostensibly a band, though. Still, despite protestations from Peej Pedants, though, most people treat it as a solo act, and not the best example in this case.

A more straightforward example: how do we file Dave Matthews Band Name Your Reasons Why They Are So Bad & Hated?

Leeee with three E's with 3 spelled out (Leee), Friday, 28 March 2014 17:56 (ten years ago) link

basically if there is a real name in my collection, it goes under last name regardless of individual vs. band semantics

sleeve, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:00 (ten years ago) link

what about "mr" and "mister", like would I file it (for example), mister mister/momus/mr airplane man OR momus/mr airplane man/mister mister. St Vincent before or after saint vitus?

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:00 (ten years ago) link

hahaha jeez I have no idea

sleeve, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:01 (ten years ago) link

subjectively:

Mister/Momus/Mr

Saint/St

sleeve, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:02 (ten years ago) link

basically if there is a real name in my collection, it goes under last name regardless of individual vs. band semantics

sir you are history's greatest monster

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:03 (ten years ago) link

hey you gotta break some eggs to make an omelet

sleeve, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:04 (ten years ago) link

Move over, Jimmy Carter! xp

Leeee with three E's with 3 spelled out (Leee), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:05 (ten years ago) link

Daniels Band, Charlie, The
Matthews Band, Dave, The

Lee, re: PJ Harvey, I repeat: If you choose to call your band your own name then you're treating everyone else as a session player; don't then try to say "but it's a band".

Mr & St I think I expand into 'mister' and 'saint', but I'd have to check, it doesn't come up much.

emil.y, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:06 (ten years ago) link

because a band name might look the same as one of the band members doesn't mean that the band name is doing the same thing as the person's name

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:07 (ten years ago) link

what about the Freddy Jones Band, noted chicago roots rockers. No member of the band is named Freddy Jones.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:09 (ten years ago) link

Burrito Brothers, The Flying

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:11 (ten years ago) link

AKA "Oh and by the way, which one's Freddy?"

SMH, Noodle.

Leeee with three E's with 3 spelled out (Leee), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:11 (ten years ago) link

I think half the reason I don't own any records by excellent Danish jazz bassist Niels-Henning Ørsted Pedersen is bc no one knows where to file him alphabetically (and neither would I!!!!)

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:12 (ten years ago) link

Floyd, Pink

marcos, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:12 (ten years ago) link

I already dealt with this stuff, guys! Read the bloody thread.

emil.y, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:13 (ten years ago) link

can see the value in keeping your Alice Cooper and your Cooper, Alice records separate tho

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:13 (ten years ago) link

Most single-artist pseudonyms I would file like real names with surname first, but band names that are people's names (hello John Sims) would be under the first letter of the whole thing.

So if it's a fictional name that covers the band, it's the first fucking letter.

PJ Harvey doesn't get a pass, sorry. She chose to do it that way, that's the way it's gonna be.

emil.y, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:14 (ten years ago) link

I was looking for one of his LPs recently and looked in H, O, and P and couldn't find it. Turns out there was a scratched copy but it was filed in under the section of one of the sidemen (after someone got frustrated with the conundrum probably)

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:14 (ten years ago) link

emily i don't agree if you mean "treating everybody as a session player" - yr status in a band is defined by contractual or other remunerative things, not the name of the band

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:15 (ten years ago) link

i file randomly.

makes the hunt for a particular cd a lot more fun.

mark e, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:16 (ten years ago) link

yr status in a band is defined by contractual or other remunerative things

Okay, I know you're talking about "real bands" with "real contracts" playing "real music" or whatever here, but that is so completely a) unlike any band experience I've ever had, and b) unromantic. ;_;

emil.y, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:16 (ten years ago) link

actually not earning any money is a good counter to my theory, must rethink

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:17 (ten years ago) link

anyway, yr status in the band isn't about the band name, people might just mutually decide that one of them has a really cool name, like Dave Killdozer or Gary Modern Jazz Quartet

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:18 (ten years ago) link

^__^

emil.y, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:18 (ten years ago) link

Yeah but what about PJ Harvey?

Leeee with three E's with 3 spelled out (Leee), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:19 (ten years ago) link

/ducks

Leeee with three E's with 3 spelled out (Leee), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:20 (ten years ago) link

ya know, most of these problems are solved with a "file under first name only" system, but I am just not ready for that part of the 21st century

our radio station switched over to first name filing a couple of years ago because that's how iTunes works

sleeve, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:28 (ten years ago) link

(assuming you don't change the CDDB tags)

sleeve, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:29 (ten years ago) link

yeah as i say i feel like first names is the most consistent way to go

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:31 (ten years ago) link


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