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ilya monosov has really managed to wedge himself in to things, apparently. and gotta love that pricing - "it's $25. why? because you'll fucking pay it, sport!"

your null fame (yournullfame), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 01:53 (twenty years ago) link

Crazy political stories abound around the Rallizes camp. Guitarist was allegedly involved in a plot to hijack an airliner (he didn't go through with it, but others did) -- the French thing is definitely worth seeking too after the double live discs.

Anyone interested in Japanese psych/scuzz should seek the Gaseneta disc on PSF. 1978-era total punk garbage guitar that influenced High Rise later (who apparently shared some music on a cassette release with Gaseneta). Imagine speed-psych acid mothers minus the reverb, with a lot grottier production and a guy plowing through solos ultra-fast with gloves on...hits the spot for me!

Brian Turner (btwfmu), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 03:20 (twenty years ago) link

This just in! Eclipse Records has 2 Rallizes items not seen in a while (I think). December's Black Children (2 discs recorded live in December 1980) and another reissue of Heavier Than a Death In the Family, which is Live '77 resequenced & with a 1973 cut called "People Can Choose" added.

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Saturday, 10 May 2003 20:09 (twenty years ago) link

... Ed is also apparently well stocked on Blind Baby Has Its Mother's Eyes as of now.........

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Saturday, 10 May 2003 20:39 (twenty years ago) link

REcieved my order from Ed @ Eclipse today. Have listened to part of "December's Black Children." It sounds very good, but the performance is more subtle than what I'm used to from Rallizes. Hypermanic guitar spazz has been minimal thus far... In further news, Ed has a new Rallizes thing in his bag of tricks. Its an LP called "High Or Die" which does not overlap with the 2 recent double-LP sets... Seems as though the Rallizes Denudes stuff is beginning to come out hot & heavy. Wo! As I'm writing this Mizutani has ripped into a solo that sounds like a very drunk Neil Young. In a good way.

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Thursday, 15 May 2003 00:06 (twenty years ago) link

''ARTHUR DOYLE/TAKASHI MIZUTANI/SABU TOYOZUMI- Live in Japan, 1997 (QBICO 09/10) 2LP''

got this last night: its pretty good in a sort of blue humans vein (I suppose its more to do with instrumentation and the fact that doyle is there). I'll have to hear this a few more times before i can say more on it.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 15 May 2003 10:32 (twenty years ago) link

New assessment of December's Black CHildren:

The fact that I first thought it was "subtle" only shows the depth of my guitar-noise jadedness. It pretty much singes your eyebrows off. The tempo is slower overall. There is a very cool one-chord blues vamp that sounds a bit like John Lee Hooker on moonshine & ayahuasca, and though it claims to all be from one source, I suspect it may not be. THere are differences in sound, songs fade a bit too slowly, revealing the beginning of the next song to have actually been another one.

Thanks for the report on the Doyle disc Julio.........

Also, Ed is already out of High Or Die. Happy hunting.

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 15:22 (twenty years ago) link

I've been doing some heavy DLing & burning lately from Soulseek. SOme recommendations:

Wild Party 1975 (quite possibly the most intense guitar noise barrage in human history)
Studio & Soundboard 1975-1978
France Demo Tape
Red
Blue

you might want to avoid Mars (or Mass) Demo. Pretty pedestrian...

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 14:45 (twenty years ago) link

nice. I might be getting a copy of some of those coloured CDRS soon-ish. will report in a week or two.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 15:19 (twenty years ago) link

here -- i'll get some friends together and record pointless misreadings of psychedelia on a handheld cassette recorder. twenty-five years from now i will sell you all a copy and you will be very excited about it, having heard how "legendary" my band was.

maybe i'm missing the point, having only heard '77 live, but i can't help that thinking people can get a bit overexcited when something is a) japanese b) noisy and c) hard to find.

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 15:30 (twenty years ago) link

''pointless misreadings of psychedelia''

unless you start explaining the 'pointlessness' of it all and in what way it 'misreads' psychedelia you will end looking a fule.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 15:35 (twenty years ago) link

pointless: again, having only heard '77 live i can say quite honestly that there is little distinguishing les rallizes denudes from what results in any basement or garage anywhere on earth where there are a) teenagers b) marijuana and c) electric guitars present. hackish, bluesy guitar solos, bass parts lifted from hendrix, barely competant drumming. no attempts at developing "a song" or taking the opposing road that lets the freeform develop into something trancelike (the guitar playing is too obtrusive). it's just crappy stoner jamming. sorry.

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 15:58 (twenty years ago) link

''again, having only heard '77 live i can say quite honestly that there is little distinguishing les rallizes denudes from what results in any basement or garage anywhere on earth where there are a) teenagers b) marijuana and c) electric guitars present''

you are gonna have to give me examples of this. I think what rallizes do (two guitars feeding back and virtually bleeding into each other) with constant bass/drum pattern is something that no band I've heard of sounds like.

what is so 'hackish' abt their 'bluesy' guitar solos? You see, they are lifted from the blues but its not menat to be exactly like blues and so what if the bass parts are lifted from hendrix. The only thing you can say abt bass parts is that they are repeating pattern. Its mixed high up and it heightens the 'body blow' effect but its something to hang onto as they throw these formless guiatr shapes for 10 + minutes, same with the drums, which sound competent to me.

And song isn't their strong point but its a mix of song and jamming. its psych rock so you're gonna get that.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 06:51 (twenty years ago) link

I think that what distinguishes Rallizes from other bands (perhaps unjustly)pigeonholed as "stoner jamming" is the extreme level to which they take the whole guitar-noise aesthetic. It isn't intended to be "trancelike" (which, I have concluded, often translates as "boring as shit artsy meandering"), it is intended to be jarring & "intrusive", to excite & disorient the listener. So far in my exploration of Rallizes I have found very little that is crappy, but you have to be one who is more attracted to the intensity of the performance than the fidelity of the sound, because, as has been mentioned, much of the material is culled from audience tapes.

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 15:10 (twenty years ago) link

i'm gonna find '77 live and throw it on again.

i think people have overintellectualized responses to this band, i really do. if it was just a tape of your brother-in-law's pick-up band you'd probably toss it in the bin (but discreetly, so as not to offend the brother-in-law). i will, however, give les rallizes denudes another chance just so i'm not guilty of condeming something without trying to understand it first.

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 16:01 (twenty years ago) link

um, I don't think we are overintellectualizing anything (or at least i don't intend to). Its well executed at times and not so well at others.

When its done well, its exceptional.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 16:10 (twenty years ago) link

I never heard a blues musician emit the ear-splitting freedelic onslaught that Mizutani was capable of & often pulled off with such panache. Leigh Stephens from Blue Cheer came close, but even his most 'out' venture ('Out of Focus') didn't quite get there. And he & Mizutani were contemporaries. Lou Reed's offerings on 'I Heard Her Call My Name' and the live versions of 'What Goes On' are more in the ballpark, but I've never heard a blues player go that far out. And this didn't require a lot of thought, of overintellectualisation is not a factor. It was more of a gut reaction.

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Thursday, 29 May 2003 15:34 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...
while i enjoy rallizes a lot [my girlfriend's dad turned me on to them on a visit to japan a few years ago—he actually knows some of their "associates" or at least fixed their motorcycles—total speed freaks! one guy's tooth came out eating a cookie] but i don't really hear a connection to blue cheer or the velvet underground—if anything they're like crazy horse. speaking of which, has anyone read "shakey"? there's a part in there where they're playing a show in japan and frank and billy are on acid and frank talks about how every time he touches his guitar rainbows come out of it—neil even leans over and comments on the night's overy psych feel. does anyone have a tape of this? was mizutani there?

libbey adams, Friday, 13 June 2003 19:31 (twenty years ago) link

''[my girlfriend's dad turned me on to them on a visit to japan a few years ago—he actually knows some of their "associates" or at least fixed their motorcycles—total speed freaks! one guy's tooth came out eating a cookie]''

heh.

funny you should mention neil young bcz just on wednesday i got hold of the 'red' and 'green' CDRs and I got reminded of Neil Young (guitars not as distorted as live 77, basically comes down to that). I think the blue cheer connection come from the use of distortion whereas the velvets comes from the use of repeating basslines and drum patterns.

but yeah, its a lot of things.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 13 June 2003 19:40 (twenty years ago) link

The VU connection also comes from the uncontrolled fuzz & feedback blasts that can hit you with grenade-like force. I can certainly see the Crazy Horse comparisons too, especially on things like 'Shots' from 'Reactor' and the live recordings dating back to 'Live Rust'. The Rallizes 'High or Die' bootleg is out & about again & is a gem. Hiroshi Nar, former Rallizes member, has released some stuff as well.

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Friday, 27 June 2003 03:36 (twenty years ago) link

four months pass...
Up-Tight has released at least 2 things. Spoonful has released at least one. These are Rallizes spin-offs. The SPoonful thing is really good, with a vaguely Deep-Purple-gone-garage sort of vibe. Haven't listened to the Up-Tight things yet.

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 03:37 (twenty years ago) link

Rallizes: historically important, but little else. If they were to actually allow a legit, easily accessible and affordable rerelease of their catalogue - and everyone from PSF to dodgy American psych labels has tried to get them to allow it - I think that their reputation was sink immediately. Certainly they know this; their mystique remains intact precisely because anoraks go overboard buying up CD-Rs for $40 on ebay!

I like Rallizes but think it's decidedly minor work. Fushitsusha or Kosukuya they ain't.

Kjoerup, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 03:53 (twenty years ago) link

oh, hush.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 04:23 (twenty years ago) link

If they allowed cheap-ish CDs their 'reputation' would be on the way up: a few bands would try to ape that sound, but whether they would be successful in doing so is another matter.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 10:19 (twenty years ago) link

Hmmmm, I think you two are just feeling a bit defensive 'cause you bought $40 CD-Rs ...

I have a legit 'Live 77' cd. I'll be happy to let it go for, oh, $400.

Kjoerup, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 21:34 (twenty years ago) link

nine months pass...
No, not feeling defensive. Perhaps you are feeling a bit smug because you didn't buy the CDRs due to the fact that you don't 'get it.' Its cool. I don't 'get' Minimikoto.

Watch for Les Rallizes Denudes & Yellow - Sessions at Fussa double disc. Also, I wasn't aware until recently that there were 2 Doyle/Mizutani trio shows recorded... Hiroshi Nar has been releasing a ton of stuff, including a live thing with Nishinihon.

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:41 (nineteen years ago) link

The Up-Tight record is grebt. Is this really a spinoff? I thought it was some other band altogether who just enjoyed Les Rallizes.

mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:46 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure Hiroshi Nar is in Up-Tight, and he was in Rallizes.

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 20:27 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Is this (still) true? I saw Up-Tight at the last Instal fest. None of them seemed old enough to have been in Rallizes, though I could be mistaken: Big shades and mops all round!

Soukesian, Monday, 27 March 2006 18:04 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
Rallizes on youtube here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsBXLh-v_II&search=rallizes%20denudes

Seems to be some sort of Japanese TV arts show retrospective segment. Any Japanese speakers out there able to clue us in on who is being interviewed and what they have to say?

Soukesian (Soukesian), Friday, 16 June 2006 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

three years pass...

Dug out 77 live for the first time in a while here. Yup, still great.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 September 2009 16:45 (fourteen years ago) link

milton's link above is dead--i wonder what it was that got him angry?

ian, Monday, 7 September 2009 17:08 (fourteen years ago) link

probably typical VT price gouging and/or hyperbole.

sleeve, Monday, 7 September 2009 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link

I should spend some time with 77 live today.

Trip Maker, Monday, 7 September 2009 17:17 (fourteen years ago) link

perversely my favourite rallizes song is the acoustic kioku ha toi which i find myself humming on the regular. Tho sometimes Enter the Mirror, the Last One or Night of the Assassins takes its place.

BIG jock KNEW aka the steindriver (jim), Monday, 7 September 2009 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link

In the past month I realized LRD are one of the best bands I've ever heard, just from the '77 Live album, which gets ten times better each time I hear it (especially on drugs). They have a few other releases floatin around too, like Yoda Go-A-Go-Go, which kicks fucking ass!!

falc0n2600, Monday, 7 September 2009 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Still one of my all-time favorites

Soukesian, Monday, 7 September 2009 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Live 77 is indeed a classic. A pity that none of their other releases matches it.

Duke, Monday, 7 September 2009 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Here's a quick blast of that, from youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HidM7vrL37E

Soukesian, Monday, 7 September 2009 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link

At least I'm pretty certain it's from that disc, cut to film for wherever. Like to think it gives a feel for what it might have been like to be upfront. But LOUD LOUD LOUD and endless.

Soukesian, Monday, 7 September 2009 22:53 (fourteen years ago) link

great band

Lord Crutsos Omicron (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 7 September 2009 22:58 (fourteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

I notice from this month's Wire that Phoenix records (whoever they may be) have (re)issued 'digitally remastered' editions of "Heavier Than A Death In The Family" and "Blind Baby Has Its Mother's Eyes". Limited to 1000 CDs each, and LPs are apparently forthcoming:

http://www.piccadillyrecords.com/shop/search.php?search=Les+Rallizes+Denudes

Duke, Friday, 16 July 2010 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link

My copy of Heavier Than A Death In The Family doesn't play on any CD player known to man, so beware...

A prog venn diagram for you to think about (Matt #2), Friday, 16 July 2010 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Phoenix = Radioactive Records

So I wouldn't believe that it's really remastered in any significant way.

Pants Perdu (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 17 July 2010 09:09 (thirteen years ago) link

heavier than a death is so fucking great, would love to own an actual copy, even on pheonix/radioactive

my copy of satori is on radioactive

good news if you wear cargo shorts (contenderizer), Saturday, 17 July 2010 09:26 (thirteen years ago) link

heavier than a death is so fucking great, would love to own an actual copy, even on phoenix/radioactive

this sums it up. might wait for the vinyl

Duke, Saturday, 17 July 2010 10:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Ah if I'd known it was Radioactive I would've thought twice...can't imagine the vinyl pressings being great either.

Info on this guy : http://www.yogarecords.com/press/radioactive.html

A prog venn diagram for you to think about (Matt #2), Saturday, 17 July 2010 10:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Do those records *need* remastering in any significant way?!

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 17 July 2010 11:52 (thirteen years ago) link

needledropping is a kind of remastering

good news if you wear cargo shorts (contenderizer), Saturday, 17 July 2010 11:54 (thirteen years ago) link

New photo/lyric book just announced. Very expensive, but I couldn't resist:

https://lesrallizesdenudes.bandcamp.com/merch/the-last-one-po-sies-les-rallizes-d-nud-s-book-cd

lord of the rongs (anagram), Monday, 5 February 2024 18:43 (two months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Temporal Drift has put a few copies of the Romance of the Black Pain otherwise Fallin' Love 12" that sold out immediately when it was put up before up on Bandcamp:

https://lesrallizesdenudes.bandcamp.com/album/romance-of-the-black-pain-otherwise-fallin-love?

bulb after bulb, Friday, 1 March 2024 13:04 (one month ago) link


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