Sade: Classic or Dud?

the live DVDs are very nice. smoke some herb, watch it with your lady. the bomb.

god, 'no ordinary love' is so fucking beautiful.

YOUR LOVE IS KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING

was she really a junkie?

!!! surely not !!!

no, i was reading some brit music magazine years ago and they more than hinted at her being into that shit

but maybe the british music press does that with any given random artist as easily as the rest of us sneeze when presented with a cotton swab tickling our nose hairs

nice

I know, right?

...

God you really hate it when people do that, don't you, I know, right?

Sade is too excellent to go on.

Also she is way too beautiful to believe.

ABBOTT BE SPEAKING THE TRUTH YO

I know I've made an ass out of myself here before, but Sade is the most attractive woman to have ever made music, ever. Why isn't she my wife? She's the creme de la creme.

bought this guy yesterday at flea market:

http://www.discogs.com/Sade-Couldnt-Love-You-More/release/105842

http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2009/11/24/PH2009112403079.jpg

FEB 8th. Stoked.

dope cover imo

wooooahhhhhhhhh

I guess this deserves its own thread, huh?

Sade - Soldier of Love

HOLY SHIT

LOVE SADE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvcNtoHwd6Y

this is one of the best sade things ever

that whole live dvd, jeez

hmm i dunno titchy, that youtube sounds pretty cheap

actually best live cut is of 'smooth operator' -- crazy-ass coda

RT @ToureX: People are like afraid to say Sade's album is blah bc she's such an icon and so beloved. But it is.
9:57 AM Feb 19th from TweetDeck

I haven't heard the new one but I thought I'd post this just to show that some folks don't like the new one (or at least one person!)

i think it's just that one guy.

btw the best (and perhaps only good) sade remix is Tattoo (House Mix) (i think that's what it's actually called on the 12" vinyl, though on youtube it's "deep house vocal mix))

nah tb perfecttly honest, I still haven't been won over by this album. Haven't given up on it though

xp multiple ppl on this thread have expressed similar sentiments

i think ppl were expecting a more uptempo jamming joint & instead its pretty ballad-heavy.

I expected better programmed drum machines.

no idea what you dudes are talking about with this drum machine shit

not sure that they're machines but they are quantized all to shit & it's a drag - I dig the record but it's not even in the same league as "lovers rock"

i dont ever remember their drums ever being anything but super-tight & borderline robotic tbh -- like its part of the style

"borderline robotic"? can't really agree man. you can play real tight and still sound engaged, and for that matter you can quantize here and there without having the numbing effect that solider of love's production has. sade's always had a great band, but they've been much, much better served by the production than they are here. not unique to this record obv but since it's by an artist whose records have always felt live, you notice

yes borderline robotic! theyve never really been about letting the rhythms swing. i mean, arent the drums on 'turn my back on you' super-quantized too? i dont get any sense of change between this & their older stuff at all really.

im using the wrong terms -- swing isnt what i mean -- but the precision of the drums doesnt sound like some new thing to me. at all

they don't swing, but they do sound more like they're listening to each other, which is what over-quantizing a track takes away - most of this record you don't get the feeling you're listening to a band, whereas on love deluxe you feel like no matter how many punches & overdubs there are the unit is playing together - which this doesn't sound like, to me

i see what you guys are sayin - i mean, love deluxe, iirc, had a bigger impact on me right off the block than this one. it's quite possible that several of her earlier albums are better than this one. BUT, i liked it a lot the first time i heard it, i have yet to EVER turn it off mid-album (which i'm very very prone to do to almost anything else) even after many many playthroughs, and something tells me it's gonna keep growing on me. lord knows lovers rock was a grower, in the best way possible - i'm kinda only just now realizing how awesome that one is cause i only gave it, like, 5 chances back when it came out. don't know what the hell i was thinking then back then, not loving LR to death!?!?! anyway i suspect this one will hold it's place proudly among the cannon of sade albums, some of which are inevitably better than others, but all of which are unquestionably awesome.

re:quantitization: i think none of the core members of sade (the band) are drummers - thus their growing use of drum machines over the years. therefore, the drums are almost by definition very highly quantized - and as a guy who messes with drum machines and software a lot, i suspect they program, not input by hand, their drum patterns... so almost by definition they're 100% quantized, period, and perhaps have been since love deluxe. any looseness you hear is from the musicians playing around the beat, not the drums themselves. i think this one's just pretty slick, not too lose, lots of takes to get everything perfectly perfect... hell it's their first album in like 10 years and its FUCKING SADE so i think they were really trying to get everything sounding polished...

...what am i trying to say? basically i think their drum machines have always been quantized, it's not any different here from their last 3 albums. and i suspect this album sounds more polished cause they WANTED it to sound more polished, perhaps as a turn-around from the looseness and simpleness of lover's rock...

Lyrics to Baby Father :
We were waiting for the bus
No-one much around but us
Then I see this young boy cut a look at me
I’m stunned
In a daze
He had the whole street set ablaze
It’s only love they say
Makes you feel this way

She liked his eyes she wanted more
The baby gonna have your smile for sure
He saw a lovely girl
Smelling sweet and soapy like fresh air
She saw him looking acted like she didn’t care
That’s how we knew
And so love grew a flower
A flower that is you

this kills me...

is she saying "Your daddy knows you're a fling"? If so, it's a devastating lyric.

this album really hit for me when the lyrics sunk in - inc, yes, "your daddy knows you're a fling"

Bimble.

He just knew, didn't he?

wtf?

listening to sweetback right now (ie. sade without sade singing) it's like love deluxe, except with someone else on vox...

...obviously. definitely very nice. and not completely unlike portishead as well. which is not a bad thing... like if portishead was more Adult Contemporary? no, wait, it's like this: it's like if this incredibly talented backup band was just dicking around, recording the tripout album they always wanted to do while the diva was disappearing to jamaica and port au prince for years at a time...

wow, nice rapper chick on "au natural" too... who is that?

bahamadia.

is she saying "Your daddy knows you're a fling"? If so, it's a devastating lyric.

― Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, February 24, 2010 11:10 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this album really hit for me when the lyrics sunk in - inc, yes, "your daddy knows you're a fling"

― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, February 24, 2010 11:24 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i asked upthread & its apparently "flame." the 'fling' lyric would be devestating if it made any sense w/ the rest of the lyrics but there are no references to him ditching or whatever, they talk about the kid being a flower-product of 'love' not 1nitestand

& messiah totally otm about the quantizing, i really have no idea what j0hn is on about -- theyve never been some loose live-sounding band, its been a huge knock against them for years that they sound all studiofied

the problem with the drums on this record isn't that they sound too quantized, it's that they sound too tinny

Yes. I had to look up "quantized."

xp iconic

happy 65th