S/D: Richard Thompson

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What the...first, why have I not heard of 1000 Years of Popular Music until today, and second, how is his version of "Oops! I Did It Again"????

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 23 December 2004 16:12 (nineteen years ago) link

The "Watching the Dark" collection is excellent. I've only had it, "Shoot Out the Lights" and "Rumor and Sigh". I got all three over ten years ago and have listened to them quite a bit, but never got any more Thompson records.

That version of "Calvary Cross" must be the same one on the boxed set. "Devonside" is an amazingly sad song. "Great Valerio" is another favorite of mine.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Thursday, 23 December 2004 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Earl, you are correct!

Sean; his 'Kiss', by Prince is incredible. find it.

derrick (derrick), Thursday, 23 December 2004 18:39 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Just wanted to throw a plug out there for RT's latest Front Parlour Ballads. It kinda received some mixed reviews from fans, but I am really digging it. My favorite Thompson in years.

Jim Reckling (Jim Reckling), Sunday, 22 January 2006 21:48 (eighteen years ago) link

search: fairport era, Henry the human fly, first 3 R&L records, shoot out the lights

post Linda output hit or miss, definitely mostly miss after rumor and sigh.

Basically, if he's wearing a beret on the cover art, buyer beware!!

anna graham, Monday, 23 January 2006 07:05 (eighteen years ago) link

all great:

Unhalbricking
I Want to See the Bright Lights Tonight
Pour Down Like Silver
Shoot Out the Lights
Henry the Human Fly
"Calvery Cross" (live)
"Sloth"

All Good

Fairport Convention (aka What We Did on our Holidays)
Hand of Kindness
Amnesia
Industry
The French, Frith, Kaiser, Thompson Albums

Half Good

Liege and Lief
Rumour and Sigh
1000 Years of Popular Music

No Good

First Light
Sunnyvista

For Fans

Pretty much everything else

Chuck B, Monday, 23 January 2006 15:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Fine, fine RT songs that I don't hear a lot of praise for:

Waltzing's for Dreamers
Happy Days and Auld Lang Syne
Turning of the Tide
Tempted cover

RT songs that are pretty well regarded but that I still think are good:

Gethsemane
I Want to See the Bright Lights Tonight
Kiss cover

RT songs that I have a soft spot in my heart for but which I think may very well be overrated by now:

52 Vincent Black Lightning
Beeswing

The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 01:32 (eighteen years ago) link

anna that's so true abt the beret haha!

Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 01:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Has anybody heard the full soundtrack for The Grizzly Man that RT did with Jim O'Rourke and Henry Kaiser? What I remember from the movie was pretty fantastic.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 01:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Perhaps that is the source of a replacement for that overused phrase (which I will refrain from using here) for artistic novedive : When Did So-and-So Bust Out The Beret?

Redd Harvest (Ken L), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 01:52 (eighteen years ago) link

As a longtime RT fan, I just don't get the newcomers LOVE for his last 5-6 records. Anyone with a decent knowledge of his early stuff (and I know this sounds like a tiresome "he was better before you started paying attention" drone) has to admit that the recent stuff is well crafted but dull - where are the hooks Richard?? He's gotten very wordy in his lyrics, and though the lyrics still read very English, his overall sound has become bland/generic - too much time in America (california)? His early records were so full of ideas, interesting fusions. I still love him but I stopped even trying after Mock Tudor, god that was an endurance test. I think he should form a real band, the FKTF or whatever it's called revived him a bit, he should try something like that, maybe a little less eclectic. I know he'll never rejoin fairport or anything, but maybe a one-off with the likes of Martin Carthy, Ashley Hutchings, June Tabor et al would wake him up from his slump.

anna graham, Tuesday, 24 January 2006 07:38 (eighteen years ago) link

"Half Good: Liege and Lief"

WTF???!!! It's only the pinnacle of English folk rock (Along with No Roses natch)

stew!, Tuesday, 24 January 2006 09:48 (eighteen years ago) link

It's only the pinnacle of English folk rock

Well, that's what they all tell us

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 10:10 (eighteen years ago) link

I was listening to 'Bones of All men' t'other day; thet's pretty fab.

Masked Gazza, Tuesday, 24 January 2006 10:24 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
I've been listening to First Light quite a bit lately. Very odd atmosphere, though I don't really find the production offputting, except maybe on "Sweet Surrender." I don't know why I like "Died For Love" so much; it's ridiculously sentimental, but it's probably my favorite song on the album besides "Don't Let a Thief Steal Into Your Heart," which is just brilliant. I should probably hear the Pointer Sisters version. I'm surprised that it hasn't been covered by some dance-punk band.

clotpoll, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

so am i the only person that actually likes "mock tudor"? i think it's great. crawl back, bathsheba smiles, cooksferry queen, walking the long mile home... some of my favorite songs of his. i don't understand the hate!

Emily Bjurnhjam, Monday, 26 February 2007 23:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been curious about the mid-eighties records (Across a Crowded Room, Daring Adventures, Amnesia) for a while, since they can be had for cheap. All I know is the great "Don't Tempt Me."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 26 February 2007 23:59 (seventeen years ago) link

early to mid 80's records all have standout tracks worth hunting, search 'two left feet', 'tear stained letter', 'you don't say', 'al bowlly's in heaven' & especially 'love in a faithless country'

recent favorite track is his cover of 'so ben mi ca bon tempo' from 1000 years and his 'oops I did it again' cover is great -- zero irony, he plays it like he wrote it himself

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 00:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I've heard Amnesia. It has it's moments ("Jerusalem on the Jukebox," "Turning of the Tide") and there's nothing really crap, but it's not very interesting, and I never particularly want to relisten.

clotpoll, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 01:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Since this thread has magically reappeared again (not a redundancy for a thread that seems to exist for one day a year, like Brigadoon), let me, too, express my appreciation for at least some of Mock Tudor. I like "Bathsheba Smiles" and "Cooksferry Queen" as much as any but the very greatest RT songs, and "Crawl Back" is pretty good, too. There are songs I don't like so much on there, too, but that's been true of every Thompson album in the past 20 years. He's an artist made for collections and live performance: his catalogue is so strong and so deep, his technique so amazing, and his work ethic so good, that a good collection or a concert is breathtaking. Individual albums are mixed bags.

Vornado, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Also seek out his solo performances on the two live Newport Folk Festival '88 discs, especially for the incredible "Turning of the Tide."
I was at that gig. He came, he played, he conquered.

Jazzbo, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

three months pass...

Anyone have anything to say about the new album Sweet Warrior yet?

Jon Lewis, Thursday, 31 May 2007 15:09 (sixteen years ago) link

The Grizzly Man OST is awesome. My favorite record of 2006.

Also search the DVD of Grizzly Man for the hourlong documentary about the making of the soundtrack.

Steve Shasta, Thursday, 31 May 2007 15:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Sweet Warrior's very uneven - some great, tense stuff and some goofy awkward old-man bullshit too. I think I liked his last album, the acoustic Front Parlour Ballads, better.

JoshLove, Thursday, 31 May 2007 15:46 (sixteen years ago) link

So similar hit/miss ratio to Old Kit Bag?

It's on Shout Factory instead of Cooking Vinyl, so I can't cherry pick the good tracks off eMusic this time :(

Jon Lewis, Thursday, 31 May 2007 16:19 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Don't think anyone's mentioned 'How Will I ever be Simple Again?' - nearly up there with Beeswing as a late gem

sonofstan, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

i can't get enuf of this man's voice

Surmounter, Monday, 30 July 2007 20:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyone have that huge 5 disc set of odds and ends that came out in the last year or two? I've heard mixed reviews, it seems like you've got to be insanely into RT to want it. I haven't been into his last 10 years, though the 1000 Years Of Popular Music shows were fun.

Mr. Odd, Monday, 30 July 2007 22:01 (sixteen years ago) link

hey! sweet warrior is good. not very good, just good. the (locally owned and operated) classic rock station in my town plays "'dad's gonna kill me" constantly, which is ballsy and awesome, seeing as it's an explicitly anti-war song.

Emily Bjurnhjam, Monday, 30 July 2007 23:18 (sixteen years ago) link

four months pass...

xmas present for my uncle, who's into dylan of all ages and early cohen. well he's also into late leonard cohen but i'm just not ready to provoke that.

i love "i want to see the bright lights," but i also think some more solo male rock stuff would be more up his alley -- suggestions?

Surmounter, Thursday, 20 December 2007 15:50 (sixteen years ago) link

four months pass...

Finally got IWTSTBLT, and I love it. Am most drawn to the first half, which is a bit more pop-oriented in songwriting. I like the second half, but am not so into the folk tropes. Where do I go next? Where can I find more songs like the first four songs on this record?

G00blar, Monday, 28 April 2008 15:49 (fifteen years ago) link

When I Get to the Border, Calvary Cross, Withered and Died, and title track, btw.

G00blar, Monday, 28 April 2008 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link

check out the albm R&L put out next, "Pour Down Like Silver."
Those are my favorite songs on Bright Lights too, and I like Pour Down Like SIlver even more.

ian, Monday, 28 April 2008 16:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Awesome, thanks. That would have been my natural thought, save for all the Shoot Out the Lights love above.

G00blar, Monday, 28 April 2008 16:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Pour Down Like Silver is my favorite Richard (with or without Linda) Thompson album. (Although Hokey Pokey was actually the followup to Bright Lights.) Based on the songs you like, you might prefer Hokey Pokey or Shoot Out the Lights to Pour Down, though.

The guy who just votes in polls, Monday, 28 April 2008 16:12 (fifteen years ago) link

oops, my bad. hokey pokey is okay too, though. i almost never listen to it for some reason. i picked it up long after i got bright lights & pour down like silver.

ian, Monday, 28 April 2008 16:18 (fifteen years ago) link

The arrangement+production of Calvary Cross is just killing me right now.

G00blar, Monday, 28 April 2008 16:18 (fifteen years ago) link

(not a big fan of Shoot Out The Lights, for some reason.)

xp.

You should check out the nearly side-long live version on RT's "(guitar, vocal)" LP of odds n ends. It's some heavy shit.

ian, Monday, 28 April 2008 16:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Search: see him in concert.

Rock Hardy, Monday, 28 April 2008 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes. He's so much better live than on record.

kornrulez6969, Monday, 28 April 2008 17:53 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah that 14 minute version is impossible. it got tacked on as a bonus track to 'Silver' once, and it's available right now on In Concert November 1975, which also has an 11 minute 'Night Comes In' and the way they start the show by just tearing into 'Bright Lights' is just HELL YES

I think Shoot Out The Lights is a great collection of songs and I wish it hadn't been produced all 1980 adult contemporary. Bright Lights & Silver are my favorites but all of their albums has at least one song you kinda need, even Sunnyvista has "Why Do You Turn Your Back?" Basically where you want to go next is backwards to the Thompson Fairport albums, they're different but you'll like the first three & my favorite song he wrote for them is "Sloth" on Full House.

Milton Parker, Monday, 28 April 2008 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link

unhalfbricking & what we did on our holiday = unimpeachable classics. i've heard the complaint that liege & leaf is a little bit "too renn faire" but i still dig it.

ian, Monday, 28 April 2008 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Basically where you want to go next is backwards to the Thompson Fairport albums

But aren't these more folky? Or am I wrong?

G00blar, Monday, 28 April 2008 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link

they're folky, but they also shred. liege & lief and full house are the "folk" albums, but they're extremely electric/fast. the records before that are a bit more rock-folk than folk-rock -- jefferson airplane influence, maybe? all thompson-era fairport records are worth getting though.
anyhow, I love richard. was just listening to this guitar lesson he recorded that I guess was released sometime in the 90s. obviously, there's no way i am ever going to sound like him, but it's fun to try out some of his tunings/tricks. and i'll chime in with others' recommendations to see him live -- he is stunning.

tylerw, Monday, 28 April 2008 18:40 (fifteen years ago) link

yes they are, especially Holidays, but they did it their own way. if you like Bright Lights, you'll like them both if you let them soak in.

I saw the Water CD reissues of Holidays and Unhalfbricking in Amoeba this weekend and wanted to buy them both again

Milton Parker, Monday, 28 April 2008 18:44 (fifteen years ago) link

are those reissues different from the ryko versions?

tylerw, Monday, 28 April 2008 18:50 (fifteen years ago) link

bonus tracks rescinded. I never heard them, are they key?

Milton Parker, Monday, 28 April 2008 18:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Don't remember them being so.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 28 April 2008 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link

if i remember correctly, the bonus trax on those are drawn from other places, like guitar/vocal ... some good stuff, but probably nothing essential.

tylerw, Monday, 28 April 2008 19:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Of course, Stormy may come along and prove us wrong.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 28 April 2008 19:03 (fifteen years ago) link

lol, I’d love to hear what RT could do with ‘Louie Louie’.

Dan Worsley, Saturday, 30 March 2024 09:10 (three weeks ago) link

It looks like Thompson has played it at least one other time way back on Nov. 29, 2006 in Saratoga, CA, around the time the DVD version of 1000 Years of Popular Music was released. (The CD for it has already been out for several years.)

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/richard-thompson/2006/carriage-house-theatre-saratoga-ca-23f6b82b.html

Amazing selection of covers, it may have been one of his all-request shows where you write a selection on a piece of paper.

birdistheword, Saturday, 30 March 2024 14:55 (three weeks ago) link


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