Jesus and Mary Chain Mania!

Message Bookmarked

Bookmark Removed

Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (503 of them)

Spencer, I like you, but you've finally put a foot wrong here. Up your bum for not picking "Reverence"!!!! My favorite song ever!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 November 2003 04:15 (twenty years ago) link

And I'd include "Sundown" for

the planet's more fucked up than I'll ever be

Right on! Honey's Dead was like a coming of age for me, I can't be objective about it.

Did Hope Sandoval break it off with her Reid bro then?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 November 2003 04:17 (twenty years ago) link

tuneless dud

??????????????????????????????????????????

It's got a tune, a tune you can whistle!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 November 2003 04:19 (twenty years ago) link

yeah i think Hope is doing Colm O'Ciosoig, correct me if i'm wrong

― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 7 November 2003 04:20 (twenty years ago) link

Actually, I like "Reverance", just not as much as all the other stuff. I just listened to it and changed my mind about it's dud-ness, and it was definitely the final cut.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 7 November 2003 04:23 (twenty years ago) link

Hope lives north of Berkeley (Hills/Kensington?). Anthony Kyle Monday pointed her out to me at the Smog show here. She's small!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 November 2003 04:27 (twenty years ago) link

Nordique,

Hope and Colm live up the hill from you in K-ton.

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 7 November 2003 04:31 (twenty years ago) link

and Hey! which (smog) show were you at? starry plough?

did you meet the hstencil? msp?

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 7 November 2003 04:35 (twenty years ago) link

I met hstencil very briefly, g! I bought a cd of "Julius Caesar" of of him, and errr, distinguished myself by not saying much to him. He was kinda busy, though. nice guy!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 November 2003 04:48 (twenty years ago) link

msp-I haven't had the pleasure.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 November 2003 04:52 (twenty years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Hey, whatever happened to that touted JAMC revival last year? It never seemed to get off the ground. Sigh.

I'm listening to Munki today. Time has been kind to it. At the time, I remember having an "OMG, WTF?" reaction to it because it was almost like the JAMC recording a satire of a JAMC album.

But with some time and distance, that's what's so great about it.

― Danger Whore (kate), Monday, 11 October 2004 09:18 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll have to have another go at Munki. Munki love, you guys...

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 11 October 2004 09:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Are they ever going to release the video on DVD?

I mean, honestly. My tape has just disintergrated in ... certain sections. I need a nice, clear, DVD, frame by frame-playable version.

But anyway, yeah. Munki. I mean, maybe it sounds so great because I've heard so much crap lately. I wonder how charitable I would feel if I put on Blues From A Gun or something.

― Danger Whore (kate), Monday, 11 October 2004 09:33 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, and i'd like a second video collection preferably one containing the teenage lust video that we never got to see when it was out.

didn't like munki when i hear it recently (apart from Moe Tucker) but Honey's Dead was GREAT on another listen.

(i have the video in digital format (vcd or divx) if that's any use to you kate.)

― koogs (koogs), Monday, 11 October 2004 11:38 (nineteen years ago) link

and i'd like a copy of their Whistle Test(?) performance from '86 ish

― koogs (koogs), Monday, 11 October 2004 11:44 (nineteen years ago) link

You know, if only I had a DVD writer etc, I'd do you a copy of my "Psychoanalysis" J&MC Compilation (runs up to Sidewalking iirc) which was top. I say so anyway.

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 11 October 2004 12:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Hrmmm. See I was disappointed with Honeys Dead the last time I dragged it out.

― Danger Whore (kate), Monday, 11 October 2004 12:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Me too, when I bought it. No actually, I'm thinking of Automatic. HD was a return to form for me.

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 11 October 2004 12:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Honeys Dead dated badly, to my ears. Good songs, but the production just screamed NINETEEN NINETY TWO!!! to me.

― Danger Whore (kate), Monday, 11 October 2004 12:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I've said this before, on this forum, in fact, can't remember on what thread, but I remember someone taking the piss out of me because I was taking the piss out of dance music for dating badly. Sigh.

― Danger Whore (kate), Monday, 11 October 2004 12:05 (nineteen years ago) link

The one I'm most likely to 'dig' out is Stoned and Dethroned, funnily enough. "Come On" is one of their best singles, it's just that it's got a particularly feeble title.

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 11 October 2004 12:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Stoned and Dethroned... hrmmm. That's the one that left the least impression on me. Even though I saw them quite a bit on that tour, my main memory was always "Ho-Ho-Hope, ugh." (Going onstage with the JAMC and complaining that there's *feedback* - what is she thinking?) I suppose there were some decent tracks on it, but some truly dire lyrics. "Jesus walks on the water, we walk on wetness, too" or something like that?

I mean, sure, they're not known for their lyrical prowess, but it's a long way from "I'll be your plastic toy" or even "I wanna die on a sunny day" for chrissake.

― Danger Whore (kate), Monday, 11 October 2004 12:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Odd. I was actually blasting Psychocandy this weekend. When the wife and child returned home from an errand, my wife furrowed her lovely brow and said, "what on earth is this awful noise?". It's still got it!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 11 October 2004 14:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Honey's Dead: http://www.robotfist.com/030205/030205_35.html says it better than i ever could. love that guitar sound in Catchfire. reminds me of Bo Diddly or one of those.

> Psychoanalysis" J&MC Compilation

sounds a lot like the video here: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00004R699/ref%3Dnosim/iq451-21/026-6561500-4698820

which is what i have. i just used my tv capture card to make a digital copy for backup purposes. and because i could.

amazon review for 'sound of speed':
"Reviewer: kat791 from england
not what i was expecting, but good nonetheless. the leonrad cohen cover 'the tower of song' is way cool, as is the cover of 'my girl'. cool acoustic guitar and the singer's got a nice voice. pretty good. similar to the beta band."

― koogs (koogs), Monday, 11 October 2004 14:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Why does "Automatic" get so little respect? Yeah, I wish they hadn't used a drum machine, and they were clearly trying to sell out a bit with an album of straight-ahead rock songs. But what great songs they are! And the production hasn't dated any more than that on "Darklands".

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 11 October 2004 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link

> Psychoanalysis" J&MC Compilation

Something I made myself, out of vids and snippets off TV. If amazon are selling it, I shal go paranoid !

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 11 October 2004 14:52 (nineteen years ago) link

I love Automatic too. However, the production has dated a little more than Darklands as it has fewer distinguishable electronics. However, Darklands is mostly drum machine too! (some people disagree with me on this point. unfortunately, they are wrong).

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 11 October 2004 16:46 (nineteen years ago) link

you can get their whistle test performance on one of the bbc whistle test dvds. they do "in a hole" and it is amazingly mesmerising, though sadly not performed in front of bob harris i is sure would have had a coronary... reid, reid and hart are all in bike leathers whilst bobby gillespie sports fetching khaki...

― gerardo francisco, Monday, 11 October 2004 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Somebody talk to me right now and at length about how insanely great Honey's Dead is, and why, with particular reference to "Sundown," "Reverence," "Tumbledown," and "Frequency." Thanking you in advance, I remain.

― xero (xero), Thursday, 21 September 2006 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Dan P to thread...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 21 September 2006 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I finally found an mp3 of the version of "Some Candy Talking" from the NME 7" freebie - and I am finally happy.

― I.M. From Hollywood (i_m_from_hollywood), Thursday, 21 September 2006 23:38 (seventeen years ago) link

The Hardest Walk (Some Kind of Wonderful OST vers.)

Please describe what the difference is between this and the "Psychocandy" version, someone!

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 22 September 2006 08:07 (seventeen years ago) link

my sister's boyfriend's band supported jim reid last week. i was well impressed! they couldn't have cared less.

― pisces (piscesx), Friday, 22 September 2006 10:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Is Jim Reid gonna pay them back?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 22 September 2006 11:01 (seventeen years ago) link

>> The Hardest Walk (Some Kind of Wonderful OST vers.)

>> Please describe what the difference is between this and the
>> "Psychocandy" version, someone!

I believe it has a longer introduction, like a fade-in or something.

Where's the bastard rarities box set?

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Friday, 22 September 2006 11:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't imagine that.

Yeah, where?

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 22 September 2006 11:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Somebody talk to me right now and at length about how insanely great Honey's Dead is, and why, with particular reference to "Sundown," "Reverence," "Tumbledown," and "Frequency." Thanking you in advance, I remain.

*drums fingers, whistles idly*

― xero (xero), Friday, 22 September 2006 14:08 (seventeen years ago) link

The Hardest Walk (Some Kind of Wonderful OST vers.)

Please describe what the difference is between this and the "Psychocandy" version, someone!

It's a completely different recording produced by Stephen Hague. Less abrasive than the album version, the sound is similar to "Some Candy Talking".

That whole soundtrack is amazing, btw.

― I.M. From Hollywood (i_m_from_hollywood), Friday, 22 September 2006 17:27 (seventeen years ago) link

four months pass...

So they've reunited and are playing Coachella.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Not to take anything away, but a JAMC reunion just basically means the Reids have decided to play nice with each other for a day and perform old songs. It's not the biggest deal is all I'm sayin'.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Thus my kinda underwhelmed reaction.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

It's hard to say whether their music is more the kind where it'll be reasy easy to get up and start playing again, or the kind where they'll inevitably seem a bit old and trying-too-hard when they do. (They sounded like they were straining a bit by the fourth LP, actually, but on the other hand if they just remember to act as bored as possible, it'd totally work.)

― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I haven't said this in so long, but it's just like riding a bike:

nabisco otm

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 22 January 2007 23:38 (seventeen years ago) link

hey Spencer where did you go to high school...? do you know Robert Lobo?

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 22 January 2007 23:44 (seventeen years ago) link

At least they'll be playing at night (unlike the hilarious daytime set at Lollapalooza)

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 22 January 2007 23:46 (seventeen years ago) link

oh yeah also not personally super-excited about a reunion - maybe if they were geriatric it'd be amusing but the one set I saw of theirs (w/ Spiritualized opening at the Fillmore in the mid-90s) was so bad I have no real wish to see them again...

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 22 January 2007 23:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I do know Robert!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 22 January 2007 23:56 (seventeen years ago) link

ILX HIGH SCHOOL MAFIA

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 22 January 2007 23:59 (seventeen years ago) link

weird - we were college roommates, I'm still in touch with him (Joe Harrington too). Not entirely unrelatedly, he was the first other person I met who owned a copy of "Darklands".

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 00:02 (seventeen years ago) link

So where is that "rarities" box set then?

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 00:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Skipping 403 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

they sound mostly like late-90s Primal Scream to me now

― fetter, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 16:11 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah, this is... not great, it's a pretty mixed bag. Which would be fine for a late career album like this, but the lows are really low.

New one has some cool bits (the advance tracks mostly) but also some really abysmal career nadirs (The Eagles and the Beatles? Wtf)

Fully agree, that one is embarrassing.

― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 17:14 (one week ago) link

You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.