defend the indefensible: VAN HAGAR

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That's too reasonable a stance for this thread. More frizzy madness, plz.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 19:01 (eighteen years ago) link

I also like the guitar playing in "Finish What You Started", I always thought he was going for a Keith Richards thing (but it unsurprisingly comes out sounding a lot more complicated)

Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 19:06 (eighteen years ago) link

TS: "Finish What You Started" vs. "Slave"

rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link

All the OU812 singles were good (even "When It's Love" if I'm in the mood to hear it), but "Finish What Ya Started" is near the top of the pack. EVH liked to throw one curveball song in on each record, but "Finish" is the first one in many years that actually worked.

My own favorite single from that album? "Feels So Good" (the solo gives me chillies)

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Me Wise Magic" was like a brief tantalizing taste of a scrumptious meal that was suddenly whisked away and shoved irretrievably down the dumbwaiter to oblivion.

Hmm. I was once poetic.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 10:51 (eighteen years ago) link

The muse will return.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 11:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I prefer Rick Springfield's "I've Done Everything For You" to Hagar's.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 19:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I prefer Rick Springfield's "I've Done Everything For You" to Hagar's

Greil Marcus claims that the Clash's "Safe European Home" riff was stolen from a live version of that song! (Sez that it was on San Francisco radio "constantly" while they were there recording Give 'em Enough Rope with Sandy Pearlman.)

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 27 April 2006 09:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Hmmm...further "research" reveals that Pearlman in fact had that riff wiped from the final mix.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 27 April 2006 19:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Is bobbing my head to 'Why Can't This Be Love' classified as 'defending' Van Hagar? That's about all I can come up with in their 'defense' then. To me, Van Hagar's just plain indefensible. If they were under attack, I'd let them be torn limb from limb & die like dogs.

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 28 April 2006 04:56 (seventeen years ago) link

ten years pass...

https://youtu.be/ApKXWAWkVW8

Backstage with the boys in 86. Also a Eddie talks seriously and Michael sings some really high notes.

calstars, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 01:40 (seven years ago) link

Hagar always sounded like he's passing a shit that is about to rip his asshole to shreds

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 06:01 (seven years ago) link

xp The "Me Wise Magic" love is appreciated.

billstevejim, Thursday, 26 January 2017 02:42 (seven years ago) link

Me Wise Magic is great, coulda fit in with classic VH.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 26 January 2017 02:57 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

"Poundcake" rules

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 21 February 2019 12:57 (five years ago) link

is it common knowledge that "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge" is the best Van Hagar? it should be.

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 21 February 2019 13:01 (five years ago) link

It's my least favorite one sound-wise. Some of the songs are alright (and it's the only tour I ever saw them on).

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 21 February 2019 13:07 (five years ago) link

I mean I could "poll" 1991's finest : For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge vs The Black Album
and Metallica would win by a significant margin here
but that Metallica album is loaded with bullshit and the van hagar album is pretty streamlined, "Right Now" the only really corny moment

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 21 February 2019 13:11 (five years ago) link

yeah I was thinking that I really like the sound of For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge today! pretty full on the low end, gives it a menace I didn't remember

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 21 February 2019 13:12 (five years ago) link

Only time will tell if Van Hagar stands the test of time.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 February 2019 13:43 (five years ago) link

I did, maybe a year or so ago, hear "Poundcake" in the wild and thought, man, Sammy is singing the hell out of that song. Here's something fun:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYUKtW8ayhA

As a friend pointed out, this is seemingly more or less spontaneous but the band is tight and sounds great.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 February 2019 13:44 (five years ago) link

dang that's pretty good! Michael Anthony steals the show, something you can't say very often.

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 21 February 2019 14:00 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

Sammy is 71!

calstars, Friday, 17 May 2019 23:05 (four years ago) link

And MA is 64

calstars, Friday, 17 May 2019 23:08 (four years ago) link

Probably not the right place for this, but the first Montrose album is straight fire.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 17 May 2019 23:13 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

“Only time will tell if we stand the test of time”
Fucking poetry man

calstars, Thursday, 6 May 2021 23:37 (two years ago) link

"She puts cream on my bananas"

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 7 May 2021 01:36 (two years ago) link

I had a cassingle of Poundcake

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 7 May 2021 01:43 (two years ago) link

Paper money don't hold...

earlnash, Friday, 7 May 2021 02:58 (two years ago) link

Suckers walk, money talks...but it can't touch my 3 lock box.

earlnash, Friday, 7 May 2021 02:59 (two years ago) link

fuck it I like Van Hagar

I just wish Sammy Hagar had a time in the 80s early 90s he did some action movies. It seems like something he might have been good at, doing stunts with fan boats etc.

earlnash, Friday, 7 May 2021 03:15 (two years ago) link

that would have been sweet

he should have guested on Miami Vice

Sammy would have been the CHOPPER pilot.

earlnash, Friday, 7 May 2021 03:18 (two years ago) link

one thing about Sammy is he is a chill dude

Man “when it’s love “ has everything you could want. A sweet keyboard intro, a bit of rock, sammy’s intro “hey!”, alex playing some triplets, mike’s high as fuck backing vocals, Sammy again with “yeah, you can FEEL…nothings missing!” And then of course a super tasty solo. Satisfying

calstars, Friday, 7 May 2021 14:27 (two years ago) link

that's one of his I actually like.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 May 2021 14:41 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

ONLY TIME WILL TELL
IF WE STAND THE TEST OF TIME

calstars, Thursday, 28 July 2022 11:22 (one year ago) link

zen koan

calstars, Thursday, 28 July 2022 11:22 (one year ago) link

what is the sound of one cake pounding

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 28 July 2022 17:08 (one year ago) link

The original lineup of this band hit me during my formative years--I was 12 going on 13 when the first album came out. They were also the first concert I saw. While the bloom was definitely off the rose by Diver Down (although Fair Warning holds up remarkably well), I never reconciled myself to the Van Hagar version. Everything that made the band special seemed to have been drained away.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 28 July 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link

eight months pass...

Sammy was 30+ years early on the celebrity tequila trend.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Monday, 24 April 2023 01:05 (one year ago) link

You should seriously look up how otm that really is and how well Sammy played it. I'll try to copy the pertinent part from his book tomorrow.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 April 2023 01:51 (one year ago) link

The (more or less) end of the visionary tequila saga, from "Red: My Uncensored Life in Rock":

He sat down with me and told me that he and his investors wanted to buy the company from me and they would pay $22 million. I already turned down Gary Shansby’s offer of $38 million. What was this guy thinking? I fired my accountant.

He did have a piece of the company. When he sued to get back my shares in his San Francisco restaurant, I made a deal for his end of Cabo Wabo and he went away. I brought in a liquor business old-timer named Steve Kauffman to run the company. He was somebody I knew, who came from Seagram and had done some work for me as a consultant. He was going through his fourth divorce, the poor bastard. He needed a job. Once he took over, the business exploded overnight.

A little more than a year after Kauffman came to work for me, Skyy Vodka approached him to buy the company. He took a lunch with an old friend from Skyy and showed him the numbers. The guy called me up from the lunch and offered me $70 million for the company. I almost fainted.

In the liquor business, we were quiet underachievers. We had four employees. I didn’t spend any money marketing because we were doing fine, growing at a nice, beautiful, slow pace. The three-year average net profit was almost $7 million a year. I was happy making that much money. I didn’t need any more money. I liked keeping it guerrilla, maintaining control.

I went to the Skyy offices in San Francisco, very hip company, staffed by lots of young people. I felt at home and wanted to be involved with these guys. I told them maybe I would sell them 50 percent of the company. I went back and forth for about ten days, waking up in the middle of the night thinking, “Oh, no, I can’t sell this company.” I finally told them I couldn’t sell. By the time I paid the lawyers, taxes, bought off my partners, I told them, all I’d have left is a chunk of money that doesn’t really change my life. “What amount would change your life?” they asked.

“At least $100 million,” I said.

They called back the next day and said okay.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 April 2023 10:36 (one year ago) link

I guess if you are already a rich rock star, I guess $100 million is true FU money.

earlnash, Monday, 24 April 2023 22:04 (one year ago) link

“Yeah, you can feel

calstars, Monday, 24 April 2023 22:17 (one year ago) link


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