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Batoh's solo stuff is great. As is Cosmic Invention. And Sweet Honey.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 27 September 2004 21:46 (nineteen years ago) link

I said this on another thread i think, but people who go and see ghost when they are in full-on rock mode -as opposed to temple bell insense mode- are almost always impressed. Live they are such an amazing tight rock & roll beast. god, i could watch them play forever.

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 September 2004 21:48 (nineteen years ago) link

The Batoh stuff is out again on Drag City. Its those two 90s albums reissued.

― NickB (NickB), Monday, 27 September 2004 21:50 (nineteen years ago) link

that's cool. more people should hear those.

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 September 2004 21:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Absolutely, and a timely reissue too. Fits nicely alongside some of the folksy stuff that DC have been punting out of late. Except better obv.

― NickB (NickB), Monday, 27 September 2004 21:55 (nineteen years ago) link

If had to choose between their (or most people's) heavy vs. folky, would def. choose the heavy.What's their heaviest?? I want that before Batoh, whatever it is.

― Don, Monday, 27 September 2004 22:30 (nineteen years ago) link

get lama rabi rabi, don. if you like the new one, you will like that one too.

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 September 2004 22:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Somehow had the idea that TURN ON TUNE IN FREE TIBET was mostly pretty good heavy? Judging by descriptions somewhere.

― Don, Monday, 27 September 2004 22:57 (nineteen years ago) link

lotsa long jams. get that one too.

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 September 2004 22:59 (nineteen years ago) link

turn on tune in... is mostly not heavy at all. there's one long 30 minute track at the end, and even that's not terribly heavy...

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 27 September 2004 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I like Snuffbox a whole lot more than turn on, but maybe just cuz i listen to it a lot more. they came out at exactly the same time didn't they? I think don is just looking for acid mother temple records!

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 September 2004 23:27 (nineteen years ago) link

les rallizes denudes! false grail???

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 27 September 2004 23:37 (nineteen years ago) link

wuzza? ian, have you ever heard marble sheep? you would love that shit.

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 September 2004 23:54 (nineteen years ago) link

hey, forced exposure sells that live 77 rallizes thing for 25 bucks. should i get it? is it cheaper somewhere? i kinda want it.

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 00:05 (nineteen years ago) link

It is good to see all this Ghost talk (and yes there's the review linked above by Ian...but there are others). Seen them three times live now, each spectacular in different ways.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 00:10 (nineteen years ago) link

i wrote about the new album for the voice, but i don't think it really made much sense. fun to write though!

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 00:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Live 77 is my fave LRD probably. I tried to start a LRD thread on teh noize board but it didn't get very far.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 00:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Believe the hype on les Rallizes Denudes.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 00:56 (nineteen years ago) link

belive the hype on ghost too, really! such a rad band.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 01:08 (nineteen years ago) link

i have it on good authority that they're touring the States again next spring. i've already begun hoarding provisions to follow them up/down the East Coast.

― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 01:15 (nineteen years ago) link

wisdom.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 01:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Pazz and Jop voters: Don't let Hypnotic Underworld slip in your memory because it came out near the beginning of the year.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 01:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh no no, it's been on my list ever since came out, but but:HAUNTED WEATHER,Arthur Russell's one-two punch (should I leave out one, just to make room for somebody else?!); Crime, Texas Terri, Cyndi Boste, Marron,DNA,Drive-By Truckers,Faust vs. Dalek, Comets On Fire, live Ubu,Homosexuals,Metal Boys--well, I think I've suppressed these last three, but I haven't yet heard/wrassled with the Ayler box, Eminem, new SMILE, David Thomas and 2 Pale Boys,aieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

― Don, Tuesday, 28 September 2004 02:35 (nineteen years ago) link

saw them Saturday - they're on fire on this tour. really really great - if you even remotely like their stuff you've gotta see them this time around. Heavy heavy 70s psych/acid-rock, with much more together tunes and riffs than AMT (I love AMT too, but they operate on a different plane)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 4 October 2004 16:07 (nineteen years ago) link

three months pass...

God, "Comin' Home" is pretty.

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Monday, 17 January 2005 17:36 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...

And a revive...because we need a definitive answer here -- is the Terrastock show in fact going to be their last one ever?

I've been warming up by listening to the albums one a day here.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 13:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I really don't understand the love for these guys. All I've heard is Hypnotic Underworld, and I'm somewhat disappointed. It's not the transcendent psych experience I wanted. It's more of a long, noodling, samey-sounding unoffending, gentle, mildly-psychedelic rock; the Japanese Pink Floyd.

― Mickey (modestmickey), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 13:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Hearing the earlier albums may change your mind somewhat. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 13:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe I need to. Ghost is another band I discovered through ILM. I can't remember where exactly the love was, but I think in one of the rolling pysch threads? There was a lot of love for Hypnotic Underground, and I really don't see it. It's soft, but not in a caressing, warm way. Just soft in an easy listening, adult contemporary, Wilco, unoffending way. It sounds like it's entirely lacking passion.

― Mickey (modestmickey), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 13:47 (eighteen years ago) link

????

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 13:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Give it a couple more listens in the right sort of circumstances Mickey.

Still haven't got round to getting the DVD. Anyone else have it? (and did I ask that already??)

is the Terrastock show in fact going to be their last one ever?

It better bloody well not be!

― NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link

this is not the steely dan thread. this is the ghost thread.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 14:00 (eighteen years ago) link

i have the dvd. i watched it once. the cd it comes with is pretty cool.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 14:01 (eighteen years ago) link

That DVD/CD set is the one thing I'm missing. Soon, soon...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 14:02 (eighteen years ago) link

NickB, maybe. Everything on it seems turned down a notch. The freak outs just don't freak out like a good Can freakout, the jams don't really jam enough, they just sort of noodle, and the parts that should rock just don't bring the ROCK.

― Mickey (modestmickey), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 14:03 (eighteen years ago) link

where did it say terrastock would be their last show ever? I thought it was just the band's "only US appearance this year." that would suck if they were calling it quits--especially since I've never seen 'em live yet. I for one thought Hypnotic Underworld was great. And the DVD is worth seeing, though some of it is a bit "fans only," like the video footage that's so dark you can barely see a thing. The accompanying CD has some excellent bits as well, though i haven't given it too much listening time...

― Tyler W (tylerw), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link

APRIL 21-22-23 in PROVIDENCE, RI, USA
THE PERFORMERS:
Avarus (Finland) first ever USA appearance
Bardo Pond (PA)
Black Forest/Black Sea (RI)
Brothers of the Occult Sisterhood (Australia) first ever USA appearance
Charalambides (CA/MA)
Cul de Sac (MA)
Damon and Naomi (MA)
Fursaxa (PA)
Ghost (Japan) last ever USA appearance, maybe?
Glenn Jones (MA)
The Green Pajamas (WA)
Kemialliset Ystï¿½vï¿½t (Finland) first ever USA appearance
Kinski (WA)
The Kitchen Cynics (Scotland)

....

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 14:41 (eighteen years ago) link

the "BUT...:" i heard was:
"last ever US show, at least until bush is out of office"

― the unbearable lightness of peeing (orion), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link

?????

huh.

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 14:44 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm really incoherent today.

― the unbearable lightness of peeing (orion), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 14:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Windy and Carl sent out their weekly update today with a note about T6 at the bottom from Jeffrey o' SecretEye, who's organizing, and in it it's clearly stated that Ghost's show is a 'farewell performance.' :-/

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 23:56 (eighteen years ago) link

And from the band's site itself:

23 April 2006
"Terrastock6" Providence, Rhode Island USA
*This is the only one and last performance in the states.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 23:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Hmm, bad news. Makes me very happy I saw them when they were here in like late '04. Not amazing live but still a fucking classic band.

― Sean Braudis (Sean Braudis), Thursday, 13 April 2006 02:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Crap, why does it have to be their last performance in the USA? I never got to see them! :(

― Harpal (harpal), Thursday, 13 April 2006 04:20 (eighteen years ago) link

:-/ Regrettable but alas it happens. I never got to see Disco Inferno and I'm still jealous of those who did (though admittedly they never toured the States, but still).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 13 April 2006 14:26 (eighteen years ago) link

i like hypnotic underworld. but i like the Lord of the Rings parts better than the Weather Report parts.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 13 April 2006 14:50 (eighteen years ago) link

this fucking sucks. Ghost was easily the best show I saw last year.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 13 April 2006 15:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I've been on the verge of buying "Hypnotic Underworld" (for 5 quid) for ages but I bought the "Free Tibet" album and didn't like it so I won't bother now

― D.D. Disappointed Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 13 April 2006 15:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I liked Snuffbox Imminence better than Hypnotic Underworld. I haven't heard their really old stuff. I don't understand why Ghost is mentioned in the same conversations as Boredoms or AMT.

― josh in sf (stfu kthx), Thursday, 13 April 2006 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link

japanese, etc.

― the unbearable lightness of peeing (orion), Thursday, 13 April 2006 15:51 (eighteen years ago) link

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Not sure if this was ever posted on ILM but Batoh interview by Will Oldham:

https://aquariumdrunkard.com/2015/03/31/will-oldham-interviews-masaki-batoh/

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:13 (five years ago) link

four years pass...

bump

missed this 2020 solo LP by Batoh but it is great

https://masakibatoh.bandcamp.com/album/smile-jesus-loves-you

― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Friday, 21 April 2023 16:56 (eleven months ago) link

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