EUROPE - which country has the best cuisine?

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question to brits: when was the last time you ate chicken tikka masala anyway?

blueski, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 15:18 (sixteen years ago) link

can't remember

Just got offed, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Probably about a year ago - was a place near my old work that had a good lunchtime deal and their ctm was pretty respectable.

I eat out a heck of a lot but hardly ever go for continental European of any kind. Maybe that can be my new year's resolution.

ledge, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 15:23 (sixteen years ago) link

does new yorkers eat more tikka masala than londoners? or does blueski mean people eat different "curries"?

gabbneb, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 15:24 (sixteen years ago) link

gabbneb i mean for all the talk of CTM being 'the nation's favourite dish LOL' i never think to have it and hardly ever hear it mentioned by someone else.

now i want to go to tayyabs again for the chargrilled lamb chops dammit

i thought about trying to eat at a restaurant for every country in the world or as close as i could get to that, in London, over this year and maybe the one after.

blueski, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 15:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Where's the best Argentine restaurant in London then?

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 15:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Stick to Gaucho or is there better off the beaten track?

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 15:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Buen Ayre on Broadway Market seemed good

blueski, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 15:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I ate Chicken Tikka Masala in December. In New York.

Anna, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 15:33 (sixteen years ago) link

was it nice?

blueski, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 15:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Not bad actually. But I was starving. It was a take out from Whole Foods. I ate it on a wall in Union Square.

Also Georgia deserves an honourable mention for wine, and interesting and varied uses of walnuts, pommegranite, spinnach and sharp cheese - but I've only ever eaten one Georgian meal in my life, so it's not much to go on.

Anna, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 15:35 (sixteen years ago) link

buen ayre is incredible but a word of advice: have somehting besides meat if you plan on drinking heavily later on

anna there's a georgian restaurant just south of broadway market, i can't remember what it's called but it is thee awesome

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 15:37 (sixteen years ago) link

it used to be on broadway market proper but their landlord raised the rent and now the former location is a terrible french restaurant called "la vie en rose"

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link

orig restaurant reviewed by Freaky Trigger!

http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/pumpkin/2004/02/little-georgia-broadway-market-london-e8/

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 15:40 (sixteen years ago) link

I think 'La Vie en Rose' translates to 'terrible french restaurant'.

G00blar, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 15:41 (sixteen years ago) link

i will try that - only tried one Georgian place so far (Tblisi) xp

blueski, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 15:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Holland--worst cuisine in Europe?

G00blar, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 15:44 (sixteen years ago) link

depends on yr policy towards hash brownies

Just got offed, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 15:44 (sixteen years ago) link

i would probably say yes altho you can get excellent steak there (not just in the south american places) and hey giant pancakes! xp

blueski, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 15:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah pancakes are about all I remember fondly.

G00blar, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 15:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Tblisi on Holloway Road was the setting for my one Georgian meal - it was lovely, so will probably try this place.

The Dutch have... edam...

Anna, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 15:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Bless.

G00blar, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 15:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Zuurkoolstamppot, sauerkraut mashed with potatoes. Served with fried bacon or a sausage. Sometimes curry powder, raisins or slices of pineapple are used to give a stamppot an exotic touch.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 15:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Where's the best Argentine restaurant in London then?

I dunno about the best but there's a cracking one right on the heath in Blackheath. Also the proprietor is a weird ex-paparazzi bloke who looks like Tugay and began his career taking homoerotic shots of Che Guevara lying on a bed with his shirt off.

Chicken tikka masala etc count not because they are an example of England doing Indian food really well (it doesn't, by and large) but because they're dishes invented in England to cater to local tastes.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 15:54 (sixteen years ago) link

it doesn't, by and large

how come? i take it you're including Indian restauranteurs here

blueski, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link

What is aforesaid cracking Argentine place called? There are a couple of South American-looking places there.

Just got offed, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Not bad actually. But I was starving. It was a take out from Whole Foods. I ate it on a wall in Union Square.

that's a salad bar, not a restaurant, but it's pretty great (if expensive) for a salad bar

gabbneb, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 16:00 (sixteen years ago) link

I dunno about the best but there's a cracking one right on the heath in Blackheath. Also the proprietor is a weird ex-paparazzi bloke who looks like Tugay and began his career taking homoerotic shots of Che Guevara lying on a bed with his shirt off.

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Think this may be Buena Ayre mentioned upthread: http://www.buenayre.co.uk/chemenu.htm

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 16:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Also Georgia deserves an honourable mention

I ate in a Georgian resturant in Krakow, and it was fantastic, a very refreshing change from the Polish red meat n stodge.

chap, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 16:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah I presume they're owned by the same dude. The one in Blackheath is called Buenos Aires Cafe I think, served one of the best steaks I've ever eaten. I'm tipping Argentina to win the CONCACAF poll.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 16:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Ah, excellent. A good 30 seconds' jog away from the infamous Zero Degrees, too!

Any other good Blackheath eating-holes, just name 'em here. I've not been to that many.

Just got offed, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 17:02 (sixteen years ago) link

It'll never win, but I voted for Romania, especially for its Transylvanian cuisine. But it should be said that Romanian cuisine has its own great oddball Latin sensibility and takes from the best of Hungarian and German cookinh, not to mention specialities derived from Turkish, Russian, Jewish and Greek styles. And some other places too, I'm sure. And it's dirt cheap. And the Romanians are lovely.

deedeedeextrovert, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 17:05 (sixteen years ago) link

how come? i take it you're including Indian restauranteurs here

There actually aren't that many, the majority of so-called 'Indian' restaurants in the UK are run by Bangladeshis and what you get is heavily Anglicised. Generally speaking there are a lot of okayish bog-standard curry houses around but there's so much demand out there that there's not that much incentive for them to be much more than adequate.

Additionally there's a greater proportion of fuck-awful 'spice it to death or leave it largely tasteless' Indian restaurants in this country than there are for pretty much any other cuisine, although Chinese and Mexican may run it close. In my experience the best curry places (in London at least) tend to be either Pakistani, Sri Lankan or focussed on one region of India.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 17:13 (sixteen years ago) link

No Svalbard, no credibility!!

JTS, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 17:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Where abouts are you Louis? Because there's a lovely gastro-pub type place on Royal Hill in Greenwich. It's called The Hill - love them for their lamb shank and not their uninspired name.

Anna, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 17:35 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm Lee Green, myself, that well-renowned hubbub of fine dining. Royal Hill, eh...is that near Coombs Hill? Thanks for the reccy, anyway; I may give it a go! The best pub food I've had in an absolute age, incidentally, is the traditional-yet-sublime fare at The Mill in Cambridge. Their bangers and mash was streets ahead of any other I've tried.

Just got offed, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link

There's actually a full-blown Greek taverna in Lee Green, but for some unfathomable reason we've only been there once. Reasons for this are unknown, but I think it may be because the restaurant is a) Greek rather than Greek Cypriot or b) not up to our relatives' home cooking standard.

Just got offed, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 17:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Or c) we don't really eat at restaurants very often on account of cash/reluctance to organise, unless it's a special occasion in which case we'll treat ourselves to Zero D.

Just got offed, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 17:43 (sixteen years ago) link

there's so much demand out there that there's not that much incentive for them to be much more than adequate.

depressing but applies to so many other aspects of life here i guess

blueski, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 17:43 (sixteen years ago) link

italy or france are really the only two choices here.

s1ocki, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 17:44 (sixteen years ago) link

having said that i've never eaten at/ordered from an 'indian' res and found it less than adequate but then the more you know the harder you are to satisfy xp

blueski, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 17:44 (sixteen years ago) link

an 'indian' res

gabbneb, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 17:47 (sixteen years ago) link

haha

s1ocki, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 17:49 (sixteen years ago) link

can you stop doing this bullshit quoting thing? say what you mean or stfu

hugz

blueski, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 17:49 (sixteen years ago) link

long year ahead...

blueski, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 17:50 (sixteen years ago) link

sorry, i is just entertaining the north americans

gabbneb, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 17:51 (sixteen years ago) link

an indian res (or, more often, rez) does not refer to a restaurant over here. not making fun.

gabbneb, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 17:51 (sixteen years ago) link

what does it mean? *feels sheepish now*

blueski, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 17:53 (sixteen years ago) link

1. rez

Native American slang for "reservation," as in "on the Indian reservation."

Ayy, there's always a party Saturday night on the rez, man.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 18:01 (sixteen years ago) link

serious lols @ anyone voting for anything from UK

remy bean, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 18:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Whoever voted for Norway is crazy. Now... Wait. Nobody did. Oh well, right then.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Monday, 17 August 2009 23:02 (fourteen years ago) link

four years pass...

Whoever voted for Norway is crazy. Now... Wait. Nobody did. Oh well, right then.

― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 00:02 (4 years ago

lol

Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 2 July 2014 02:02 (nine years ago) link


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