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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlfIVEy_YOA

caek, Monday, 17 March 2014 17:58 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlfIVEy_YOA

caek, Monday, 17 March 2014 17:58 (ten years ago) link

i am in a weird-ass software dev workshop and it is passing me by

caek, Monday, 17 March 2014 18:00 (ten years ago) link

my buddy was on the UK experiment that would have gotten this discovery first if the uk govt had not defunded it in order to save £2m

caek, Monday, 17 March 2014 18:03 (ten years ago) link

bg's explanation is legit and clear and short

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=843023029056612&set=a.191237650901823.54357.178097115549210&type=1&stream_ref=10

caek, Monday, 17 March 2014 18:03 (ten years ago) link

the cosmology big guns on inspect the results on FB

https://www.facebook.com/groups/574544055974988/

caek, Thursday, 20 March 2014 19:20 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

motherfucker u been holding out on us

dn/ac (darraghmac), Friday, 30 May 2014 11:39 (nine years ago) link

hi

caek, Friday, 30 May 2014 13:03 (nine years ago) link

teleportation is the headline

but rly is this Dutch thing gonna be abt information processing and transmission, sounds huge

dn/ac (darraghmac), Friday, 30 May 2014 13:11 (nine years ago) link

link?

caek, Friday, 30 May 2014 13:46 (nine years ago) link

hmm. odd article. fairly well understood theoretically, looks like a valuable but incremental practical advance.

caek, Friday, 30 May 2014 14:06 (nine years ago) link

that's just the spin put on it

dn/ac (darraghmac), Friday, 30 May 2014 14:12 (nine years ago) link

Would be interested if you consider this credible, a new model of the Thea collision that incorporates a previous smaller moon into the mix.
http://nautil.us/issue/13/symmetry/when-the-earth-had-two-moons

xelab, Friday, 30 May 2014 15:15 (nine years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan_of_Parsonstown

i was here today it looks like this '_'

dn/ac (darraghmac), Monday, 2 June 2014 21:29 (nine years ago) link

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152245376168772&l=e2f516ca33

posting from fb so im assuming that wont work but anyway

dn/ac (darraghmac), Monday, 2 June 2014 21:30 (nine years ago) link

i kind of struggled to get through that moon article. it is not crazy but my undersrtanding (not a solar system guy) is that there is a less crazy idea that is the "consensus".

caek, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 00:51 (nine years ago) link

Nautilus seem to have a knack of making ropey premises seem credible, starting to think that is their MO.

xelab, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 01:24 (nine years ago) link

not to get all degrasse tyson on your thread but

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn25723-massive-ocean-discovered-towards-earths-core.html

plants, man! crazy stuff

goole, Friday, 13 June 2014 20:02 (nine years ago) link

planEts, sry

goole, Friday, 13 June 2014 20:02 (nine years ago) link

woah

mattresslessness, Friday, 13 June 2014 20:18 (nine years ago) link

"We should be grateful for this deep reservoir," says Jacobsen. "If it wasn't there, it would be on the surface of the Earth, and mountain tops would be the only land poking out."

xelab, Friday, 13 June 2014 21:12 (nine years ago) link

It is a headfuck thinking about where all the water comes from, it seems like there is too much to have been delivered by comets alone.

xelab, Friday, 13 June 2014 21:16 (nine years ago) link

oh some crazy moon has an ocean under its surface, wait so does our planet.

mattresslessness, Friday, 13 June 2014 21:20 (nine years ago) link

i was not aware of that! that is cool. the NS article is a bit casual about the difference between "evidence for" and "consistent with", but otherwise seems legit.

caek, Saturday, 14 June 2014 17:44 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

is it possible that the molecules in a liquid can remain static

Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Monday, 30 June 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link

like if u had liquid in a container with no gravity acting on it and heat/pressure was consistent would it still be moving

Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Monday, 30 June 2014 21:58 (nine years ago) link

no the molecules must be moving (goes for solids and gases too)

that's the definition of non-zero temperature

they stop moving by definition at absolute zero, but absolute zero is a theoretical limit and cannot be reached by a liquid

caek, Monday, 30 June 2014 22:05 (nine years ago) link

good episode http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01r113g

caek, Monday, 30 June 2014 22:05 (nine years ago) link

thank you for the martin rees recommendation in some other thread, been enjoying "our cosmic habitat".

mattresslessness, Monday, 30 June 2014 22:07 (nine years ago) link

it is a great "i want to read one book, 200 pages please" recommendation

caek, Monday, 30 June 2014 22:08 (nine years ago) link

martin rees's dad was our family GP when I was a kid -- he looked like the mekon, except tall

mark s, Monday, 30 June 2014 22:12 (nine years ago) link

sounds like martin rees but tall

caek, Monday, 30 June 2014 22:13 (nine years ago) link

come to think of it I was quite small so possibly not that tall

mark s, Monday, 30 June 2014 22:15 (nine years ago) link

so the difference is that solids will vilbrate but the movement of molecules is constrained within that, like a lattice structure or whatever, so they can only move to a certain extent? whereas in a liquid the molecules will move around independently, interchange positions, etc?

Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Monday, 30 June 2014 22:15 (nine years ago) link

yeah in a solid things are constrained, but still jiggling

in a liquid (absent gravity, boundaries of container, etc.) things can go wherever

caek, Monday, 30 June 2014 22:16 (nine years ago) link

thank you that is exactly what i wanted to know

this was inspired by imagining the molecules moving around in an inert, cellared bottle of wine

(im drinking wine rn)

Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Monday, 30 June 2014 22:19 (nine years ago) link

lol

caek, Monday, 30 June 2014 22:25 (nine years ago) link

caek i read the other day that absolute zero is no longer regarded as the point at which atoms cease to move but at which they attain the lowest possible (theoretical) energy state, is this right y/n?

clockpuncher (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 July 2014 06:21 (nine years ago) link

isn't that an intersection

do u like green ez & jam (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 July 2014 07:20 (nine years ago) link

anyways idk re particle motion but absolute zero occurs on the saula rd around mid November,normally when the taxi has gone home and you've lost yr jacket

do u like green ez & jam (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 July 2014 07:21 (nine years ago) link

not sure exactly what your article was talking about NV but...

yeah 'cease to move' is the classical description of what goes on at absolute zero

in quantum mechanics it's not that simple because they're delocalized (i.e. their location is fuzzy via the uncertainty principle)

caek, Tuesday, 1 July 2014 16:22 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

forces are propogated by massless particles. e.g. the electromagnetic force, which is the force that dominates our lives, keeps us warm, prevents us from walking through doors, etc., is propagated by the best known massless particle, the photon.

massless particles travel at exactly the speed of light. therefore forces can only propagate at the speed of light, you are correct.

there is a thought experiment about this involving the sun suddenly disappearing. if this happened then the earth would stay on its orbit for 8 minutes, before suddenly flying off into space, because that's how long light takes to reach us.

the reason all this makes sense is complicated and difficult to explain without getting into special relativity, which is not my strongest subject, and not something i've ever been good at teaching. but perhaps if you're comfortable with the idea that you can't send information at faster than the speed of light, then it would make sense to you that you can't have forces that operate faster than that (or instantaneously) because they could be used to transmit information at faster than the speed of light.

this wikipedia article makes a decent stab at this. of course once you throw in quantum mechanics all hope of understanding this is lost, because that stuff makes no fucking sense whatsoever.

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fave ilx post, I think

is this empty sanitism (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 August 2014 08:39 (nine years ago) link

fave ilx thread title, sometimes

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 7 August 2014 16:25 (nine years ago) link

it's a good jingle

mattresslessness, Thursday, 7 August 2014 16:33 (nine years ago) link

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1408/comet_on_3_august_2014.jpg

caek, Friday, 8 August 2014 11:47 (nine years ago) link

s/t for this thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGPhUr-T6UM

♪♫ teenage wasteman ♪♫ (goole), Friday, 8 August 2014 17:15 (nine years ago) link


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