Rolling Metal Thread 2014

hope I'm uncool enough to say that

We are posting on a metal thread on ILM, I think our starting status is uncool.

yeah I think melodic vox would be a good move - I stopped following Arch Enemy when it was basically "ok, well, I know what you do and I'm pretty sure I've got enough of it," this could take them somewhere

Well I know you, me, Adrien and Jeff T. are uncool enough to love Arch Enemy, aero, but we're all gonna be subject to the withering judgment of SeanWayne any minute now...

― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Monday, March 17, 2014 1:40 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

don't you only listen to jazz now or something?

the new Lord Symphony is kinda nifty - it's power metal but with some super interesting melodic stuff going on - Metallium says they mix stuff with "traditional Indonesian music," I'm not sure that's what I'm hearing yet - the scales sound identifiably western as of the third song on their new one, but they do sound different from yr average triumphant-major/ominous-minor power metal deal - a pretty distinct take on soaring-vox tweedle-tweedle power metal., anyway some of the synths & guitar figures are kinda Arcturus-y? not sure how much I can really soak up of this though, it's like trying to listen to a whole Angra album

That news about the new Opeth has me really excited, I loved Heritage, even though it means Opeth can't even be considered a metal band anymore. They're basically a prog band, which is just fine with me.

I miss metal Opeth. Hoping dude emerges on the other side of the prog era (which I dig just fine) and ends up using it to inform something uber-brutal again.

Phil McSorley quit Cobalt. Bummer.

damn

really? that's the end of cobalt i guess

Did Opeth ever do anything that was really uber-brutal?

Yeah, I can't imagine Cobalt continuing. It was a hell of a run. Gin is a classic.

Did Opeth ever do anything that was really uber-brutal?

I never much liked Opeth. But I love Cobalt.

I am late, as always, but man this Grave Miasma album from last year is great. I was never a huge fan of Incantation/Immolation but I like the way the DNA of their sound has mutated in so many death metal bands these days...

just got round to an album by this Portland band SHROUD OF THE HERETIC which is bandcampable here and am really digging it. super weird Portal/Negative Plane style death metal with Winter-style slow bits and a strong blackened vibe

Speaking of Portland bands, I saw the body tonight in Philly at long last. Show was quick, but very intense. Great band, glad I finally got to see them live. The only bummer was that they didn't have their forthcoming album yet to sell.

SHROUD OF THE HERETIC

Wow, this is nasty stuff and I love it.

I am curious what the rumors are about Angela Gossow leaving Arch Enemy... Is her voice shot? Is she and Michael Amott still a couple? Or is it really a matter of wanting to settle down as the press release states?

The new song's good, nothing particularly bold, but catchy. No singing from Alissa, but she steps up her harsh vox considerably.

http://vk.com/video21594630_167708781?hash=42491cd715ebf892

Finally listened to the full eight-minute demo "Lords of Summer" last night and, while the lyrics are literally the worst Metallica has ever written (and, yes, I am including St. Anger lyrics), it's not that bad. The second half of the guitar solo is pretty great actually.

every fucking time there's a new Metallica I want to believe it's going to be good

It's not awful, but I am cutting a lot of slack since its just a demo version (the vocals, in particular, sound mighty rough).

oh ha. by the time they send it to their How Not To Master A Record dude it'll sound like absolute trash

Very likely, I won't argue that point. Basically it wasn't as terrible as a 2014 Metallica song called "Lords of Summer" would lead me to believe (aside from the lyrics).

at this point, every time there's a new metallica I just want a funny dysfunctional band therapy movie to go along with it

since my first two metallica albums were the black album and load (which was curiously enough sufficient to make me stop buying any later ones), at roughly the customary times in the mid-90s, i have never, ever, ever had any wishes about any new metallica records, it's healthy, i like it

the last album was utter shite yet because it was still better than st minger it shows how bad that album (and reload) really was

at this point it doesnt matter how shite a metallica album is
A)it will still sell more than anything that makes a magazine EOY list
B) fans/rock critic fans will still give it the old ac/dc/rem "return to form" bullshit like with death magnetic because nit even metallica could make another album as bad as St Anger.

I liked Death Magnetic a lot (still do) and can mount a solid defense for St. Anger. I feel like a lot of people have turned hating Metallica into a sport, and the vitriol is largely undeserved. Oh, they don't sound like 1986 anymore? Well, go listen to Fueled By Fire (who are actually really good) or Havok or Violator or Bonded By Blood if that's all you want out of life.

I too am always hopeful for a Metallica returning to former glory... its just not gonna happen.. Hetfield can where a vest with patches all day and try and look like he's getting back to their roots, but money changes you. Unless the go completely broke, and have to really struggle, there is no way they will ever be able to write and put out proper angst filled, pissed off real from the heart music. As you all know, this was a band that was the absolute benchmark for metal. It was always a big deal when a new record would come out.. the Black record was the last record i got excited about, and when the video for Enter Sandcrab premiered on the MTV, me and my friends looked at each other and though, what the fuck happened.. Hetfield is singing?!?!?! fuck this!!

st anger : the dvd version is fucking great ..

just watching them hit the album hard live in a small studio = amazing.

have 'watched' it a lot more than listened to the album proper ..

its not that we want em to sound like '86, thats unrealistic. Its just in their effort to try and be a force musically in heavy music, its a parody of itself. Theres like 3 songs on DM that try and recreate the fire the end of One had... its silly They use to be WAY ahead of the curve, in a brilliant way. Now, they seem to be trying to catch up, and they are old tired and rich.. "I don't need to run anymore, I can have some one drive me..."

Well said.

hey thanks!! lol

It's very rare for a band to stay on top of their game after being that successful. Could probably name a handful of bands like the Rolling Stones that haven't embarrassed themselves too badly compared to dozens of bands like Guns N Roses that have totally self-destructed.

but its the change in their formula that stopped the output of good art, for record sales, we can thank Bob Rock for that, and its been a shit storm ever since, at least for me as a fan.. They can say all day that they do what they want and they do not answer to anybody.. but we know better.

yeah, the "WRITE MASTER OF PUPPETS II" crowd represents only a small faction of old school haters. St Anger sucked because it was tuneless, a sham; they proclaimed going 'back to their roots' and released a jumbled mess of incoherent jamming whose only relation to their roots is that it was 'loud'.

Death Magnetic was a marked improvement, yes, but an overrated one. James's voice is inexcusable, the riffs forgettable, the songs ok but not memorable. I didn't hate it, I didn't love it...it was just there. Also "Unforgiven 3" sounds like STP's "Creep" in the verse.

i hope it sounds like lulu

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllll.
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02240/Lulu_2240895b.jpg

so I saw Carcass the other night. they slayed, as usual. the new material sounds fantastic live. and I can't not go nuts when I hear "Reek of Putrefaction" or "Genital Grinder".

but man, the dude I saw it with was such a buzzkill. he's the stereotypical metal scenester - all the 'old' albums are the best, the new stuff sucks...with every band. he espouses such o_O opinions like "old Gorguts = boring generic death" and "Immortal have been a joke since Pure Holocaust". Whines about how he's not seeing "the original" Carcass lineup when just two months ago, he saw a version of Terrorizer with me in which the only real member was Pete Sandoval and didn't whine once.

after the show he whines that they played "Keep on Rotting in the Free World" and said Jeff Walker "screwed up some vocal patterns" on one of the songs. I'm like BRO DO YOU COME TO SHOWS TO HARSH EVERYBODY'S MELLOW? never again.

I've been lucky enough to see Carcass three times since September, and those Surgical Steel songs sound every bit as good as the old stuff. At times better.

http://noisey.vice.com/blog/food-trend-alert-artisanal-black-metal-cuisine

Our first dish, “Cut Their Grain and Place Fire Therein,” named for the Weakling song of the same name, arrived as Darkthrone’s “As Flittermice As Satans Spys” played. Naming the first course after a Weakling song was sort of a way of saying, “We know our shit.” The dish was a smoked farro salad with what I think were dandelion greens and a creamy lemon dressing. The meaty farro gave the dish a heartiness that was accented by the light bitter greens. Did the dish remind me of the frantic and frigid blasting of its namesake, menacing yet at once majestic? Not really, but it was good anyway.

I think I just made the Charlie Brown grimace-face that looks like a sine wave. What sucks is that I'm hungry now so I think I'll go eat my Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk CD booklet. It always smelled better than the others.

That reads like a computer-generated generic internet headline from... five years ago?

This looks like a fun little fest if anyone is in the area...

http://images.benchmarkemail.com/client67922/image1275023.jpg

why the fuck are Spiral Arms playing that.. they're a rock band.. its a stretch to call a stoner rock band imo

Why the fuck are MY RUIN playing that?!

Anyway, I'm probably going to cover it for a magazine, so if anybody's going, let me know.

This is just over a month away for me:

http://www.thisisnotascene.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/148623_696827717004857_859658027_n.jpg

xp going on the bands on there I'm familiar w/ I don't think it's supposed to be a stoner rock festival?