Rolling Metal Thread 2014

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um...humour?

, Friday, 14 March 2014 07:09 (ten years ago) link

Sorry, man! Read the article about the guy from Indian slagging them off and he said:

"I don’t find singing about Satan, wearing makeup and spending an hour dressing up to play shows—like you’re some fucking trust-fund kid from Scandanavia, richest part of the world—interesting. You know what? Fuck you. Your idea of extreme means nothing to me."

So I was unclear as to whether that was a thing they did.

brains hangin (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 14 March 2014 07:13 (ten years ago) link

just followed that quote back to the original place it appeared and given that it makes almost zero sense in the context of Deafheaven, I'm guessing that he sort of jumped from one thought to another without the interviewer picking up on him having done so

trying to emulate Kirk Cobain with a shrill, shouting voice (DJ Mencap), Friday, 14 March 2014 08:25 (ten years ago) link

singing about satan is pretty awesome though

call all destroyer, Friday, 14 March 2014 11:52 (ten years ago) link

Satan's the best! Metal that doesn't talk about Satan is lame. Like, I assume, this Indian band is.

brains hangin (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 14 March 2014 12:07 (ten years ago) link

guy from Indian does not know what a trust fund is

(or if you must, "data") (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 14 March 2014 12:46 (ten years ago) link

however fuckin' A, this piece got me listening to their new one and this band has really grown a lot since The Unquiet Sky, holy fuck

(or if you must, "data") (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 14 March 2014 12:54 (ten years ago) link

A dude from Coffinworm reviews the new Twilight on BurningAmbulance.com today. (I can't believe I was the first person to come up with that headline, btw.)

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 14 March 2014 14:10 (ten years ago) link

guy from Indian does not know what a trust fund is

To be fair, the whole of Norway is pretty much a trust fund.

Siegbran, Friday, 14 March 2014 17:47 (ten years ago) link

Deafheaven are metal. You may not like them, but there's way too much metal in them for them to not be.

J3ff T., Friday, 14 March 2014 17:48 (ten years ago) link

if we who find them tedious concede, as most of us have, that they're metal, can we not talk about them until they put out another record

(or if you must, "data") (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 14 March 2014 17:57 (ten years ago) link

sure

J3ff T., Friday, 14 March 2014 18:58 (ten years ago) link

tbh i haven't heard them, I just said that to ward off folk with diamond-studded codpieces from leaping out at me and bellowing "NOTTTTTTTT METAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!"

Neanderthal, Friday, 14 March 2014 20:01 (ten years ago) link

I'm just confused by it – I finally heard the album last week, and my reaction was like "how is this not metal?" (Sorry Smithy)

J3ff T., Friday, 14 March 2014 20:03 (ten years ago) link

celtic frost
bathory
mercyful fate
judas priest
iron maiden
nocturnus

ok he's fine now

Neanderthal, Friday, 14 March 2014 20:04 (ten years ago) link

guy from Indian does not know what a trust fund is

When he's not busy being a Scandanavian trust-fund extreme metaler, Fenriz is a high school drop out who sorts mail

I'm not saying Norway's economy is bad, or that music and art isn't subsidized in a way there that it could never could be in the US...but using that particular qualifier seems like cutting off one's nose to spite one's metal cred

Dominique, Friday, 14 March 2014 20:05 (ten years ago) link

honestly I think a lot of ppl use 'trust fund' like it's a synonym for comfortable living or coming from a comfortable background or w/e, rather than this actual very specific thing. the thought processes behind doing this absolutely baffle me but you see it everyfuckingwhere

trying to emulate Kirk Cobain with a shrill, shouting voice (DJ Mencap), Friday, 14 March 2014 20:51 (ten years ago) link

I know there's great new stuff to enjoy, but I'm stuck in Dortmund Germany in 1983 watching Iron Maiden, Scorpions, Judas Priest, Def Leppard, Ozzy Osbourne, Quiet Riot, Krokus and Michael Schenker Group change the world:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT61oVBpNyA

EZ Snappin, Friday, 14 March 2014 21:32 (ten years ago) link

Jesus, four hours...

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 14 March 2014 22:44 (ten years ago) link

I'm just gonna say right now (since I've heard it) that there really is no room in this thread for discussion of the new Opeth album, because it is not a metal record at all. People who didn't like Heritage are gonna have their worst suspicions confirmed with this next one (which is as yet untitled, I think - I don't even know track names). There are no growls. There are no blast beats. Hell, there are no downtuned riffs. At its heaviest, it sounds like Yes circa Relayer; at its softest, it sounds like the Moody Blues. There's piano; there's flute; there are female backing vocals; there are strings. There is an instrumental. There are no vocals until three minutes into the first track, and it's only about six minutes long. When there are vocals, they're way higher in the mix than they've ever been, and btw Mikael sounds amazing. There is an 11-minute song, but most are between five and eight—the whole thing is eight tracks in slightly under an hour. It is a straight-up '70s prog rock album. I fucking love it.

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 15 March 2014 01:32 (ten years ago) link

That sounds awesome. Can't wait to hear it.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 15 March 2014 01:36 (ten years ago) link

I have a few of the albums from Still Life and Blackwater Park but eventually fatigued of them: I wanted them to either be heavier (more metal) or more intricate and compositionally ambitious/sophisticated (more prog?). I take it that they went in the latter direction since then? I might be interested.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 15 March 2014 01:44 (ten years ago) link

"from the period from Still Life TO Blackwater Park"

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 15 March 2014 01:44 (ten years ago) link

OK, Heritage already sounds way more prog.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 15 March 2014 01:55 (ten years ago) link

haven't liked anything they did since Blackwater Park but that's a pretty interesting review

(or if you must, "data") (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 15 March 2014 02:07 (ten years ago) link

Frozen goes metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usPoug7NcZo

, Saturday, 15 March 2014 04:20 (ten years ago) link

I loved Heritage, it truly felt as if Mike had stopped lying to himself with all the extremity. So this is very, very encouraging news.

A. Begrand, Saturday, 15 March 2014 04:21 (ten years ago) link

Thought it was time it got its own thread Babymetal J-pop or Metal?

Scooby Doom (۩), Sunday, 16 March 2014 16:08 (ten years ago) link

well after the topic had died down you mean?

j., Sunday, 16 March 2014 16:12 (ten years ago) link

Maybe it's a poll...

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 16 March 2014 16:13 (ten years ago) link

I think a lot of ilm who dont read this thread might be interested in it plus there's an article in the observer/guardian and they were in this weeks Kerrang.

Scooby Doom (۩), Sunday, 16 March 2014 16:18 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, I'm liking Heritage a lot. Excited to hear the new album.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 16 March 2014 17:11 (ten years ago) link

"Boleskine House" is so good. I guess I need to listen to Monotheist and the other Triptykon album finally.

jmm, Monday, 17 March 2014 00:07 (ten years ago) link

Today in metal bands the Rolling Metal Thread denizens are too cool to care about news: Arch Enemy lead vocalist and manager Angela Gossow will be handing the microphone to Alissa White-Gluz, formerly of The Agonist (and a Nightwish touring backup singer), but continuing to manage the band. No word yet on who will be singing on the band's next studio album, due out in June.

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 17 March 2014 17:28 (ten years ago) link

I like Arch Enemy. Wages of Sin was probably the first real metal CD I ever bought.

Simon H., Monday, 17 March 2014 17:31 (ten years ago) link

ha, I have fuckin loved that band since 2002 though I feel like it got to diminishing returns after a while. does Alissa death-growl or is it a new thing? Nightwish is a long way from the ARch Enemy I knew. Sorry about your "things the metal thread is too cool to care about" strawman better luck with the next one though!

(or if you must, "data") (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 17 March 2014 17:34 (ten years ago) link

Has her voice gone then? Or just not wanting to tour?

Scooby Doom (۩), Monday, 17 March 2014 17:37 (ten years ago) link

Well I know you, me, Adrien and Jeff T. are uncool enough to love Arch Enemy, aero, but we're all gonna be subject to the withering judgment of SeanWayne any minute now...

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 17 March 2014 17:40 (ten years ago) link

damn that sean having an opinion on a message board!

Scooby Doom (۩), Monday, 17 March 2014 17:41 (ten years ago) link

This sucks – Angela was one of the best frontmen in metal, regardless of gender. She commanded the stage like no one else and her voice was a force unto itself.

J3ff T., Monday, 17 March 2014 17:46 (ten years ago) link

I care, definitely. Alissa's a really good frontwoman but was in a terrible band, and should do a tremendous job in this new role. She's a very talented singer too, but I doubt she'll bring that to the band. But yes, Angela will be missed for sure.

A. Begrand, Monday, 17 March 2014 17:46 (ten years ago) link

Actually, if this is the catalyst for AE to go in a more melodic/power-thrash direction, it wouldn't be a huge leap (their songs have always verged on catchy) and might be brilliant.

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 17 March 2014 17:50 (ten years ago) link

Personally, I'd love it. Not counting on it, but yes, I'm sort of hoping.

A. Begrand, Monday, 17 March 2014 17:51 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, some clean singing might bring in some new dynamics that have been missing from the last few records.

J3ff T., Monday, 17 March 2014 17:52 (ten years ago) link

yeah, I would honestly prefer it myself

original bgm, Monday, 17 March 2014 17:53 (ten years ago) link

hope I'm uncool enough to say that

original bgm, Monday, 17 March 2014 17:54 (ten years ago) link

We are posting on a metal thread on ILM, I think our starting status is uncool.

J3ff T., Monday, 17 March 2014 17:57 (ten years ago) link

yeah I think melodic vox would be a good move - I stopped following Arch Enemy when it was basically "ok, well, I know what you do and I'm pretty sure I've got enough of it," this could take them somewhere

(or if you must, "data") (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 17 March 2014 18:01 (ten years ago) link

Well I know you, me, Adrien and Jeff T. are uncool enough to love Arch Enemy, aero, but we're all gonna be subject to the withering judgment of SeanWayne any minute now...

― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Monday, March 17, 2014 1:40 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

don't you only listen to jazz now or something?

call all destroyer, Monday, 17 March 2014 18:03 (ten years ago) link


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