I feel so extraordinary somePoll's got a hold on me: NEW ORDER artist poll #37 (RESULTS thread)

i have been doing some research to get the Steely Dan voting thread up and running. had to look back at this one and noticed that results have fallen off.

19 ballots
full results for 16 videos:

350 The Perfect Kiss 17-11
212 Touched By the Hand Of God 13-2
203 True Faith 12-2
177 Confusion 10-1
86 Round & Round 5-1
82 World (The Price Of Love) 5-1
81 Regret 5 (2 Baywatch version)
68 Blue Monday 4-1 (2 '88 version)
60 Bizarre Love Triangle 4
56 Ruined In A Day 4
45 Crystal 3
41 World In Motion 3
16 Blue Monday 1 ('83 version)
16 Here To Stay 1
14 Fine Time 1
14 Shellshock 1

30 Ballots
Full results for 11 Albums:

793 Technique 29-15
728 Power, Corruption & Lies 29-5
633 Low-Life 28-1
544 Movement 24-4
496 Brotherhood 24
310 Republic 18-1
268 Substance 10-4
257 Get Ready 15
240 Waiting For The Sirens’ Call 14
83 Lost Sirens 6
19 BBC Radio 1 Live in Concert 1

44 Ballots
Full results for 116 songs:

1458 Temptation 40-9
1332 Ceremony 38-5
1211 True Faith 38
1168 The Perfect Kiss 38-4
1149 Regret 36-4
1134 Bizarre Love Triangle 37
1093 Age Of Consent 35
965 Your Silent Face 35-1
946 Blue Monday 33-1
852 Dream Attack 28-5

804 Vanishing Point 33-2
790 Procession 28-3
787 Everything’s Gone Green 31
780 1963 (30
776 Love Vigilantes 34-1
775 Thieves Like Us 28
772 Dreams Never End 32
739 All the Way 31
714 Round & Round 29
656 Leave Me Alone 27

648 Fine Time 27
603 Confusion 28
573 Run 26
511 Sub-culture 23
495 Lonesome Tonight 25
492 The Village 26
488 Chosen Time 18-2
472 Shellshock 22
469 All Day Long 23-1
465 Hurt 14

440 5 8 6 (22
417 Mr. Disco 20
414 Crystal 24
413 In a Lonely Place 21
402 Cries And Whispers 18
393 Face Up 20
392 Elegia 23
370 Touched by the Hand Of God 19
340 Love Less 20
323 World (The Price of Love) 17

309 Guilty Partner 17
303 Sunrise 19
297 Doubts Even Here 14
282 ICB 15
265 Here To Stay 15
261 Ruined in a Day 12
260 Weirdo 15
249 Waiting For the Siren’s Call 15
241 Ultraviolence 14
228 Mesh 13

224 Turn the Heater On 9
210 Senses 12
203 Paradise 11
201 Denial 11
195 The Him 8-1
190 Sooner Than You Think 11
190 This Time of Night 9
185 Truth 8
181 Every Little Counts 12
175 Krafty 15

171 Murder 10
170 World In Motion 12-1
152 Ecstasy 10
128 State of the Nation 10
125 Way Of Life 9
122 60 Miles an Hour 7-1
107 Let's Go 5
103 Broken Promise 8
105 Everyone Everywhere 5

94 Someone Like You 6
94 Spooky 4
93 As It Is When It Was 8
93 Turn 7
91 We All Stand 8
85 Primitive Notion 6
80 Run 2 (4)
79 Turn My Way 6
67 Morning Night and Day 4
60 Angel Dust 7
58 Too Late 3
55 Vicious Streak 4
55 Video 5 8 6 (2)
47 Special 4
45 Hey Now What You Doing 3
45 Young Offender 3
42 Californian Grass 2
42 Close Range 2
37 Who’s Joe? 4
36 Dracula’s Castle 2
33 Don’t Do It 2
32 The Beach 3
32 I’ll Stay With You 2
30 Guilt Is A Useless Emotion 3
29 Avalanche 3
29 The Kiss Of Death 1
28 Run Wild 5
25 Liar 2
25Thieves Like Us (Instrumental) 1
24 Theme from Best & Marsh 2
23 Jetstream 3
21 Such a Good Thing 1
21 Regret (Sabres Slow 'n' Low mix) 1
21 1963 (Arthur Baker remix) 1
20 Brutal 3
19 Sugarcane 1
17 Times Change 1
14 BLT 1
12 Recoil 1
11 Rock the Shack 3
11 Evil Dust 1
10 Slow Jam 2
9 Bizarre Dub Triangle 1
8 MTO 3
8 Working Overtime 1
5 Shame of the Nation 1
4 Told You So 2

Technique:

#9 Dream Attack
10 Vanishing Point
18 All The Way
19 Round & Round
21 Fine Time
23 Run
32 Mr Disco
39 Love Less
41 Guilty Partner

i was in the mood to listen to New Order this Thanksgiving Eve, so instead of playing one of their CD's i'm going to play ILM's Top list.

happy Two year anniversary poll (when i was a virgin), will need to listen to some New Order today:

http://blog.cashcrate.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/2-year-Anniversary.jpg

I played Republic last night. Really want to know what happened to Peter Hook on that album. There are a few tracks where his bass shows up but it's definitely missing in action. Incidentally, I really like Republic so I'm not too bothered by Hooky not appearing on the next album.

The tracks on which you can hear Hook: Regret, Spooky, Everyone Everywhere, Young Offender.

Republic is the only album of theirs not to appear on Spotify.

Here it's those expanded reissues and Substance that are now missing from Spotify. So no "Cries and Whispers" or "Lonesome Tonight" etc, but Republic's here. Surely a cue to check whether the deep cuts can finally make more of an impression...

Hook is more evident than I recalled in the very "deeps cuts" I had in mind. "Chemical", "Special", etc. Rarely at the front of the mix though, of course.

"Special," yes, can't believe I missed it -- he's all over the intro. I just remembered a solo in "Times Change" too.

think it was just down to tensions between Hook and Sumner being at their worst - I think I read an interview where Hook said Sumner had decided to use his bass line's melody for the lead vocal melody on World and they fought over that which eventually lead to the bass track being removed or something

would love to read that interview.

I haven't managed to dig up the one I'm thinking of but he talks about how fractured the recording process for Republic was here.

His word against everyone else's, I guess:

RCM: Was Gillian [Gilbert, New Order keyboardist] involved at that point?

PH: No, I’m afraid to say that Gillian doesn’t have a lot to do with the music. Gillian used to help, but she was never a huge part of the writing. The writing was always done by the 3 of us. Bernard did most of the keyboards.
- See more at: http://www.rockcellarmagazine.com/2013/03/04/peter-hook-interview-joy-division-new-order/#sthash.6w0Wqoc8.dpuf

I don't buy his comments about collaborating on Sumner with lyrics, especially remembering how his words for that Electronic album are very much of a piece w/what he was writing for NO.

when i said i was a virgin that meant that this was the first poll that i ran. the other thing was gone a long time ago, just to be clear.

lol, can i erase that last post please. got high tonight...

rockcellarmagazine.com needs to add "munted" and "gurning" to its spellchecker

I did wonder, BeeOK

Noticed last night that Times Change sounds like a follow up to Get The Message w/ the opening talk/rap section.

and the "Some Distant Memory" oboe!

Yeah, I was thinking last night about how good it would be to resurrect that one for their live shows but use the melodica to play the oboe part.

Think i started a thread on a Time Change somewhere. Always loved that dusky vibe. That one and Some Distant Memory really take me back to my senior year in high school.

and the "Some Distant Memory" oboe!

A friend of mine took a synth programming course in college, and fwiw, he told me that apparently the oboe is one of the easiest sounds to come up with.

It's a live oboe, according to the credits.

i was a poll virgin when i ran this poll. yes, this was my very first poll i did for ILM. this was also the first ILM artist collaborated poll where i asked for help with the images. i still think Millsner, who i don't even think post here anymore, did one of the best job on any ILM poll. cannot ever thank him enough for helping.

anyways the reason for this bump. we never made a Spotify playlist so here it is for the first time:

ILM New Order

missing from Spotify because they don't have CD2 from the collector edition are:

Lonesome Tonight
Hurt
In A Lonely Place
Cries and Whispers
Mesh

so it is actually a Top 45 instead of 50.

I still check in almost every day! Thanks for the bump and the playlist.

The poll was a joy from start to finish, and I felt privileged to help out. It's obvious that New Order are a special band for many ILXors, so I hope that our love for these songs, the legacy of the group, and their constellation of collaborators still shows through.

nice to see you are still around Millsner!

had a blast listening to this playlist today.

anyways the reason for this bump. we never made a Spotify playlist

er https://open.spotify.com/user/djperry1973/playlist/62YSDYuNcMWbrUBYTl8kh6

One of these playlists has the stupid pump panel mix of Confusion on there which renders a 'best of new order' playlist completely useless. I added both but don't know which one I shuffled this morning, but it was foul. I can deal with the Perfecto mix of World and the Hardfloor mix of Blue Monday, but the Confusion remix was a step too far. Surely nobody voted for that.

Well what do you know. I didn't have Spotify back in the day and when I scanned this thread I didn't see it.

Xpost

Funny this was revived. I recorded this podcast on Substance, 30 years old yesterday:

https://www.acast.com/popshoppodcast/comingaroundagain-neworderssubstance?autoplay

are people familiar with the Pump Panel Reconstruction Mix used in the first club scene in "Blade"? because that owns

(also for whatever reason the "Confusion" 12 " mix on Spotify won't play for me)

― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Friday, May 31, 2013 4:00 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

POLL Will Tear Us Apart – ILM Artist Poll #86 - JOY DIVISION – New Order solo or other groups Poll (aka the Electronic poll) – a NEW ORDER (#37) supplement poll --- Results Thread

The worst New Order single.

Maybe the worst up to that point, as you say, but looking at the 2CD "Singles" comp, I can find at least nine I like less.

I'd say Jetstream is quite comfortably their worst single overall.

I believe they wrote State of the Nation in a day (or unusually quick) for Pretty In Pink. I don't mind it, but I couldn't defend it outside of personal preference. It's not better than Shellshock, but I really like the intro until Bernard vomits up that horrible lyric. The backing vocal on the chorus is pointless. Despite all the bad, I still like it. State of the Nation is my least favorite 1986 sleeve. Shellshock is my favorite, then BLT.

"shellshock" was the pretty in pink track.

Yeah, you're right, I thought I had read something in Substance about State being done around the same time but I just flipped through the mentions in Substance and there's nothing there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m00EKCQB4NU

Hooky's bassline in this early live version of State of The Nation from 1985 is pretty good. I think it's one of his weakest basslines, which could be what drags the song down.

The whole Leuven show is enjoyable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLZ53BmgD5A&t=1474s

Our soaraway number 2 right here in new unseen footage from Manchester’s Student Union on February 6 1981. Messy but as a comment cheeringly points out 'New Order's sloppy mess sounds better than most bands' A game'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAmyMqL1AkI

they look so young. thanks for posting as that is great to see.

How I ranked their albums a few months ago.

Ranking their British top forty singles.

Not much to disagree with, except with the record-buying public of the UK. How could they not have sent three of the best (in fact, three of my four favourite New Order singles - "Perfect Kiss", "Bizarre Love Triangle" and "Run") into the Top 40?

sad that i lost the original image in this poll. .

Alfred, this is a good list, i will have to come back and dissect it a bit later.