christ. i was hoping that was from the onion article i hadn't yet clicked on, but
― Merdeyeux, Thursday, 13 March 2014 01:07 (ten years ago) link
"probably wont rape you" WHAT THE SHIT.
― the Bronski Review (Trayce), Thursday, 13 March 2014 01:12 (ten years ago) link
i often feel a bit bad for judging the target of these humanitarians of x things since i've known some people who've done it who are nothing worse than ditzy somewhat politically disengaged sorts, but ya i'm happy to judge that guy.
― Merdeyeux, Thursday, 13 March 2014 01:13 (ten years ago) link
uh I don't think these are necessarily bad people, but dang if these pictures aren't worth being a little o_O at
I think the main thing to remember here is that people choose what pictures from facebook to populate Tinder with, and these people chose... that.
― have a nice blood (mh), Thursday, 13 March 2014 13:54 (ten years ago) link
there's nothing wrong with it, but that doesn't mean its really weird and sometimes lol
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 13 March 2014 14:00 (ten years ago) link
otm
― have a nice blood (mh), Thursday, 13 March 2014 14:03 (ten years ago) link
*doesnt mean it isn't really weird and sometimes lol
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 13 March 2014 14:05 (ten years ago) link
Putting up that kind of photo does all sorts of signaling idk guys
― 龜, Thursday, 13 March 2014 14:11 (ten years ago) link
it's def good to be self-aware when yr using human props in yr mating dance
― ogmor, Thursday, 13 March 2014 14:21 (ten years ago) link
I use my homely friends as props in images to show I am attractive
― have a nice blood (mh), Thursday, 13 March 2014 14:22 (ten years ago) link
xxp i wont disagree w/ you there but i mean if you were in the peace corp or did grad school research or god forbid went somewhere with your church group in a 3rd world country then i would be surprised if that wasn't one of your most memorable experiences of the last few years and what are facebook photos if not that, imo they're more cool to look at than you in someone else's boring wedding (nb i just uploaded to facebook a photo of myself in someone else's wedding)
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 13 March 2014 14:23 (ten years ago) link
photos of yourself in a wedding is good, you're dressed really well and it shows you can be trusted to be in a wedding party
― have a nice blood (mh), Thursday, 13 March 2014 14:24 (ten years ago) link
Hah yeah for sure but I mean
you were in the peace corp or did grad school research or god forbid went somewhere with your church group
That you would have had these opportunities in the first place also says a lot about your background imo
― 龜, Thursday, 13 March 2014 14:25 (ten years ago) link
what are you getting at
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 13 March 2014 14:25 (ten years ago) link
i mean, what is a dating app for if not to find people who you are interested in, and a lot of people think that stuff is all interesting cool stuff
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 13 March 2014 14:26 (ten years ago) link
Hah I was just thinking about the economic aspect, like here's someone who had the opportunity in life to get on a plane to go to a country where (presumably) they don't have any prior connection to
I say that as someone who's been jetting back and forth with China since I was small, and I didn't grow up rich so take that as you will
― 龜, Thursday, 13 March 2014 14:29 (ten years ago) link
it's fine, it's just saying that you did this thing that some people find objectionable, which yeah, one woman's interesting cool character builder is another man's objectionable third-world junket
― have a nice blood (mh), Thursday, 13 March 2014 14:31 (ten years ago) link
i mean i rmde when an OKC profile has this shit or if its 10 pictures from 10 diff countries, all with captions making sure i know which country the photo was taken in, and sure maybe some of what turns me off is its a gross display of privilege but i don't think its wrong, and i hope that person finds another person to jet set with (nb i am taking a vacation just for fun to a foreign country i have no connection to next month)
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 13 March 2014 14:34 (ten years ago) link
what if the primary picture is of the person with a kid who looks related.. and it's on tinder, and it's not their kid?
― have a nice blood (mh), Thursday, 13 March 2014 14:38 (ten years ago) link
ok i just looked at the tumblr again and feel sick for even semi-defending these monsters
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 13 March 2014 14:41 (ten years ago) link
you had good intentions
― have a nice blood (mh), Thursday, 13 March 2014 14:42 (ten years ago) link
Come visit me in China gr80
I'll give ya a good tinder pic
― 龜, Thursday, 13 March 2014 14:43 (ten years ago) link
do you hang out with throngs of adorable urchins tho
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 13 March 2014 14:46 (ten years ago) link
we should continue this inquiry on content 77 imo
― have a nice blood (mh), Thursday, 13 March 2014 14:47 (ten years ago) link
I would have thought that the Peace Corp or a church group would be the poor person's way of seeing exotic countries.
It's the "I probably won't rape you" line that's the big O_o.
NB: I haven't looked at the tumblr, just that one posted here.
― nickn, Thursday, 13 March 2014 17:19 (ten years ago) link
you're assuming churches cut across economic strata and people don't just go to churches full of people like them
― have a nice blood (mh), Thursday, 13 March 2014 17:25 (ten years ago) link
The whole concept of exoticism is precisely part of the problem.
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Thursday, 13 March 2014 17:29 (ten years ago) link
The people in a given church may be identical, but that doesn't mean they're wealthy. Don't churches do fund-raisers to pay to send their members to other countries? (I'm not defending going to these countries to "spread the word," just saying that a young person who does this isn't necesarily a douchebag.)
And per exoticism, is all travel bad? Or only travel to poor countries? Can you discern their motives from one or two pictures?
― nickn, Thursday, 13 March 2014 17:44 (ten years ago) link
seems like something ilx can all agree on
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 13 March 2014 17:50 (ten years ago) link
the people running that tumblr are picking some pretty egregious examples but i think gr80's defense isn't bad
xp lol
― goole, Thursday, 13 March 2014 17:50 (ten years ago) link
People from the global north (or whatever you're calling it these days) with racial, economic, etc forms of privilege who go to less developed, less privileged countries to save them from whatever, should be really thoughtful about their motivations and their interactions with the people in those places.
It's not that you can't take pics with people you meet on your travels! Or that kids everywhere aren't great, because they are. It's choosing those pics as representative of you and putting them out there to ppl who don't know anything about the sitch? It's irresponsible to ignore the context of that representation in our society/social circles, whether an individual actor is a "douchebag" or not. The practice of NOT being thoughtful or intentional about representation should be brought up and discouraged on all levels.
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Thursday, 13 March 2014 17:52 (ten years ago) link
idk it's better than fishing pictures
― goole, Thursday, 13 March 2014 17:58 (ten years ago) link
I think the lens that a lot of people are viewing the situation with is in line with a few studies about the monetary effectiveness and productivity of voluntourism, in light of accounts like this: https://medium.com/race-class/b84d4011d17e
― have a nice blood (mh), Thursday, 13 March 2014 17:58 (ten years ago) link
how many pippas are there?
― goole, Thursday, 13 March 2014 17:59 (ten years ago) link
idk I think we have a voluntourism thread somewhere
― have a nice blood (mh), Thursday, 13 March 2014 18:01 (ten years ago) link
Fishing pics AND white savior pics are both deal breakers for me tbh.
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Thursday, 13 March 2014 18:01 (ten years ago) link
yeah they are both (mostly) disqualifying.
― goole, Thursday, 13 March 2014 18:01 (ten years ago) link
mantaining white neoliberal hegemony over the icthyosphere is less of a problem for me on a political level i guess
― goole, Thursday, 13 March 2014 18:03 (ten years ago) link
my take on it is: go on a vacation to somewhere that could use your $$ and party it updonate to organizations that help people by giving their resources to build their own communitiesvolunteer in your own community
also put lots of fishing pics online because fishing is awesome
― have a nice blood (mh), Thursday, 13 March 2014 18:03 (ten years ago) link
what i really don't understand is the car selfie
― goole, Thursday, 13 March 2014 18:04 (ten years ago) link
since we're being judgmental abt the way strangers choose to present themselves in dating website photos, its and immediate turn-off for me when anyone who self-identifies as a "photographer" only has photos that are bad/cellphone selfies etc
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 13 March 2014 18:07 (ten years ago) link
It's choosing those pics as representative of you and putting them out there to ppl who don't know anything about the sitch?
in orbit very otm. To me it says 'I am blissfully unaware that this could even potentially say anything about me, or about the role of this kind of travel, that is less than positive'.
― ljubljana, Thursday, 13 March 2014 18:10 (ten years ago) link
its and immediate turn-off for me when anyone who self-identifies as a "photographer" only has photos that are bad/cellphone selfies etc
Well it's like that old riddle about the town with two barbers, where one has a good haircut and the other doesn't. The better barber is the one with the worse haircut, because he gets his hair cut by the other barber! What I'm saying is demand the person send you pictures of their friends
― Vinnie, Thursday, 13 March 2014 18:16 (ten years ago) link
mentioning your myers-briggs personality type is an immediate turn-off for me.
also this is probably shooting myself in the foot but, given two identical profiles, one of which mentions radiolab, i will go for the one that doesn't mention radiolab.
― caek, Thursday, 13 March 2014 18:57 (ten years ago) link
Wow, I do an hour of actual work and the thing blows up.
It's choosing those pics as representative of you and putting them out there to ppl who don't know anything about the sitch? - in orbit
― ljubljana
I see these points, but I think we're doing a lot of contextual assuming about these pics. Benefit of the doubt and all. After all, it's a dating site, not a personal essay on where the person fits in the world. Now if the person loads the site with those kind of pics, and offers lots of text about all the good he/she's done, then I'm with you. I did look at the site since my original post, and the one page I saw is just individual pictures in isolation.
― nickn, Thursday, 13 March 2014 19:14 (ten years ago) link
^judgmental but correct
xp to caek
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 13 March 2014 19:14 (ten years ago) link
xp The context for the photos is the existence of racism, colonialism, et al. They're not context-neutral UNTIL we look at them--the idea that "we" are adding the context in our viewing is one of those fallacies that neutrality is desirable or even possible.
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Thursday, 13 March 2014 19:22 (ten years ago) link
I don't know what radiolab is but that's similar to my position on people who have tried stand-up and/or sketch comedy classes.
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Thursday, 13 March 2014 19:28 (ten years ago) link
― goole
so you're saying there's still a chance for us <3 <3 <3
― unw? j.......n (darraghmac), Thursday, 13 March 2014 19:34 (ten years ago) link
xp haha, harsh!
― Nhex, Thursday, 13 March 2014 19:35 (ten years ago) link