Malaysia Airlines MH370

Really don't know much about this stuff but seems like the most plausible explanation so far? http://mh370lost.tumblr.com/post/79214607814/my-recommendation-to-the-ntsb

Wow

a horrifying possibility.

Not a great resemblance to Balotelli, tbh.

Turns out the aviation chief wasn't comparing their looks to Balotelli at all: he was using Balotelli to make a point about race and nationality not being the same thing, re: his "not Asian-looking" comment.

“Do you know a footballer by the name of Bartoli (sic)? He’s an Italian. Do you know what he looks like? Balotelli,” he told reporters late on Monday.
“I don’t want to dwell about this but they (nationality and race) are not the same thing.”

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5j4-AFCn1jZNe3jDmr0d6r-ab5B3A?docId=20d66805-865b-428e-9a8a-ea382e9ea846

Roz that is fascinating/scary, but I gotta say that it beats the hell out of all the other ways to die in an airplane that I can think of, just drift off slowly.

I remember watching live coverage of this hypoxic plane on autopilot on TV:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_South_Dakota_Learjet_crash

was that the payne stewart plane?

yep and from the "Similar Incidents" on that wiki page:

2000 Australia Beechcraft King Air crash
Main article: 2000 Australia Beechcraft King Air crash

On September 4, 2000 a Beechcraft 200 Super King Air departed from Perth, Australia, destined for Leonora, a mining town 370 miles (600 km) away, carrying seven passengers plus the pilot.[13][14] After 22 minutes of flight, the aircraft had passed through its assigned altitude. It was at this point that Air Traffic Control noticed that the pilot's speech had become significantly impaired and he was unable to respond to instructions.[13] Communications continued with the pilot for a further eight minutes before he lapsed into unconsciousness and no sounds of life on board could be heard.[13]

so the plane crashed on camera? jesus

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/11/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

(CNN) -- [Breaking news update at 1:23 p.m. ET]

The Malaysian Air Force has traced the last known location of Malaysia Airlines flight 370 to a spot above Pulau Perak, a very small island in the Straits of Malacca and hundreds of miles from the usual Kuala Lumpur to Beijing flight path, according to a senior Malaysian Air Force official. The official declined to be named because he is not authorized to speak to the media.

If the Malaysian Air Force data cited by the source is correct, the aircraft was flying the opposite direction from its scheduled destination and on the opposite side of the Malay Peninsula from its scheduled route.

which is to say if this is true, that possibility Roz cited seems vv plausible

wow, that is radically off course.

I don't think autopilot would take a plane that far off vector though.

When autopilot disengages the plane would basically go straight down, not loop back in a reverse direction hundreds of miles off course.

maybe it's possible that the pilot attempted to turn it around manually and then engaged autopilot at some point, not due to any logical reason but due to disorientation due to lack of oxygen? cf "mumbling" and what not.

i'm no pilot obv.

what a crazy story.

The pilot would need to report/radio any change of course before taking it off vector. That type of drastic redirection is simply not something you do without telling anyone. Even in dire, dire, dire aircraft emergencies, the pilot or co-pilot is constantly monitoring and reporting over the radio even in the black. They were not in the black though, there are several dozens of air traffic control stations/airports across Northern Malaysia, Southern Thailand and Southern Vietnam.

Crazy indeed.

This is starting to seem a lot more like hijacking - either by passengers or with collusion of one or more of the crew. Turning off the transponder, flying below radar in the opposite direction of planned route...

Meanwhile this sounds weird.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/world/article/Airline-probing-report-2-visited-cockpit-in-2011-5306680.php

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140311134342-flight-course-00001224-story-top.jpg

Meanwhile this sounds weird.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/world/article/Airline-probing-report-2-visited-cockpit-in-2011-5306680.php

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, March 11, 2014 2:20 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/03/11/article-2578146-1C31386700000578-612_634x382.jpg

player's ball

is that Samantha Fox in the middle?

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140311134342-flight-course-00001224-story-top.jpg

― christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, March 11, 2014 2:22 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

based on this it seems likely that they decided to turn back to kuala lampur but lost control of the plane for some reason after that?

why is the new radar info/location just being released

According to the Malaysian Air Force official, who declined to be named because he is not authorized to speak to the media

777 Passenger Oxygen masks do not deploy until cabin altitude reaches 13,500. Passengers were likely already unconscious by then, if it was a slow decompression

uh, no. you might get oxygen sickness but you are not unconscious. la paz is at 13,300 ft.

ha i meant altitude sickness

Okay the NYT story right now suggests MASS confusion:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/12/world/asia/malaysia-jet.html

Which Roz has already mentioned, but now, even more so?

people making LOST jokes about this are the worst.

is this perhaps another instance of a pilot intentionally downing a plane? though generally when that happens it's more sudden because the crew offers interference. terrorism seems to be out. this is seriously crazy. the hypoxia theory did seem good but doesn't seem to jive with the course correction they did make.

my guess is now that the territories are expanding they'll find out soon. the contradictions, while not exactly unusual in a disaster situation, are so numerous that it's hard to have a handle of what is and isn't.

all the different agencies working on this seem to have contradicting information but none of them are communicating to each other about it. :/

Just read something that said the slow decompression theory could not have happened because the plane was not fitted with the "SATCOM antenna adapter" mentioned in the Tumblr piece.

This is starting to seem a lot more like hijacking - either by passengers or with collusion of one or more of the crew. Turning off the transponder, flying below radar in the opposite direction of planned route...

― o. nate, Tuesday, March 11, 2014 11:17 AM (1 hour ago)

:-(

This is starting to seem a lot more like hijacking - either by passengers or with collusion of one or more of the crew. Turning off the transponder, flying below radar in the opposite direction of planned route...
― o. nate, Tuesday, March 11, 2014 11:17 AM (1 hour ago)

just playing devil's advocate here but if you hijacked a plane, you wouldn't actually have to do any of this stuff right? you could just take over the plane and crash it into the sea immediately. why bother going thru the hassle of making the plane undetectable and flying miles off course

it would seem odd to just hijack and plane and intentionally crash it immediately, right? i feel like if it was a political hijacking they'd be trying for a 9/11 repeat. possible outlandish theory: it was hijacked and it was turning around to head back to kuala lumpur but didn't make it and in fact went way off course (either by crew interference/misdirection or by hijacker incompetence?)

Most hijackers don't try to crash planes.

I mean, hijacking is rare these days but it's usually people wanting to be flown somewhere weird, claim asylum or extort money.

Crashing a plane usually indicates a failed hijacking. Using planes as missiles is... not common.

Yeah, the hijacking scenario only seems to work if you imagine the hijacker(s) had some intention other than immediately crashing the plane and then something happened to interrupt their plans, either an accident or some kind of struggle.

if this is terrorism the group responsible needs a new publicist

The redirected flightpath shown in the NYT graphic suggests that MH370 would have passed very close to the Royal Malaysian Air Force Academy and Training Centers near Aloh Setar & Ipoh on it's way into the Strait of Malacca.

Also, that flight path suggests the 777 would have entered Hat Yai's airspace, a major international airport in southern Thailand.

It was reported that the last communication with the plane was by a private pilot deep into Vietnam airspace on his way to Japan? (ie, extremely far from the Strait of Malacca).

The hypoxia-related Helios #522 crash in 2005 is super-unsettling: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios_Airways_Flight_522

Air Crash Investigations episode on the crash: http://youtu.be/HLN5D4lOlos

Yeah terrorism doesnt jibe with me. Whats the point if no one knows what happened, and (it seems) no one's claimed responsibility?

As to:
Meanwhile this sounds weird.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/world/article/Airline-probing-report-2-visited-cockpit-in-2011-5306680.php

I'd suggest ignoring this. A Current Affair is a trashbloid show with about as much rigor as Fox News.

Still, there is the photo.

lol we had (maybe have?) a current affair here. alot of this stuff - passports, passengers that didn't board - seems like real blind alleys. at some point something about some of the passengers will become known and ppl will give it significance only cuz it's a new piece of information where information is lacking. airplane crashes can take forever to get figured out even when they know pretty quickly what happened on a basic level to the plane (even when it crashes on land) and ppl hate not knowing everything and knowing it immediately so there's gonna be theories conspiracy and otherwise for years to come no matter what sad simple explanation it does ultimately turn out to be. ppl still have theories about the mary celeste.

Man that Helios info is tough to take. They just had to switch the cabin pressurization to auto.

i always wonder about that person they thought they saw trying to regain control of the aircraft just when it became too late

I'm pretty sure all the hypoxic flights listed in this thread:
A) remained at cruising altitude...
B) in an auto-piloted vector (and some into holding patterns at destination!) until crashing...
C) with a constant presence of ATC surveillance and/or scrambled jet pursuit.

MH370 is 0/3 of those criteria as it:
A) descended under civilian radar ceiling of 30k feet ~1 hour into flight
B) took a nearly 180 degree reverse turn just prior to transponders being disabled (manually or via malfunction), travelling several hundred miles off course for ~1 hour
C) went radio silent

A small Malaysian news outlet ran a story that people on the EAST* coast of Malayasiar Peninsula heard jet screaming in the middle of the night:
http://www.thesundaily.my/news/983037

*the opposite side of the Malaysiar Peninsula that current search is being performed.