TrekMovie: On Voyager and Battlestar, it is a ship on its way to Earth with no infrastructure, there are some parallels. Would ‘Ron Moore’s Voyager’ be like Battlestar, if you were the showrunner?
Ron Moore: Yah…probably…when I was on my brief tenure on Voyager and I was starting to think in terms of what I wanted to do, I remember sitting with the writing staff and saying ‘I really think…that when Voyager gets damaged it should get damaged, we should stop repairing the ship, the ship should be broken down more and devolving a little bit more.’ One of the ideas I had is that they should start developing their own culture within the starship and letting go of Starfleet protocols and stop thinking of themselves as Starfleet people on some level, even though they still wear the uniform and still try to adhere to the regulations. I thought it would be interesting that by the time this ship got back to Earth, that it didn’t even belong at Earth anymore. That it sort of had become its own culture, it had formed its own civilization which was dissimilar to that which they had left behind…Now that you mention this there was somebody, I don’t think it was me, somebody had pitched the notion of them having to guard some alien ships they had encountered. It was a convoy and through some plot I can’t remember that they had agreed to protect and Sheppard through some hostile star systems on their journey. And they were going to be the warship tending the little convey of civilian ships. And I was really taken with it and really liked the idea and thought it would be cool and it was sort of Galactica. We might have even mentioned Galactica….but to your question, If I had been the showrunner from the beginning I probably would have sent it into a darker direction and sent it into a more harrowing journey yes. And made them more on the run and more less of a pretty journey getting back, and at the same time, I probably would have felt compelled to stay within certain boundaries of what Trek was and how Trek had established itself. So I don’t think I could have taken Voyager to the places I have taken Galactica, even if I did have the reins.
― socki (s1ocki), Monday, 10 March 2014 18:52 (ten years ago) link
That's a good, honest response. He obviously wanted to do more with Voyager, but rebooting BSG gave him a lot more freedom that he would have otherwise.
― Nhex, Monday, 10 March 2014 18:57 (ten years ago) link
ya exactly
― socki (s1ocki), Monday, 10 March 2014 18:58 (ten years ago) link
bsg makes a lot of sense if you keep voyager in mind then
voyager could have ended up at the galactic boundary to find ronald moore reading a newspaper.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 10 March 2014 19:01 (ten years ago) link
The Year of Hell story arc in Voyager puts them in much more dire circumstances and the ship is all beat to hell for an extended amount of time. But then it's a whole timeline tampering episode and they fix everything by the end and Voyager is once again pristine.
― Jeff, Monday, 10 March 2014 19:15 (ten years ago) link
I remember liking that one. Great premise, Kurtwood Smith, etc.
― Nhex, Monday, 10 March 2014 19:16 (ten years ago) link
The alien convoy premise could have been such a fantastic show. Damn.
― jmm, Monday, 10 March 2014 19:28 (ten years ago) link
there's a very strange episode about historical revisionism where the doctor is activated after centuries by a culture that blames voyager for some political atrocity, but it curves back in on itself because there doesn't seem to be any way that this episode could have happened, because the doctor wasn't separated from voyager, and it isn't a parallel timeline or anything weird like that.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 10 March 2014 19:29 (ten years ago) link
7 of 9 => 6Holodoc => BaltharChakotay => TighNeelix => Apollo in the fat suit
― Lee with three Es with an apostrophe S (Leee), Monday, 10 March 2014 19:31 (ten years ago) link
Chakotay => Tigh
"Pfff"
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 10 March 2014 19:35 (ten years ago) link
wait does => indicate parallel or superiority?
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 10 March 2014 19:39 (ten years ago) link
Parallel...ish.
― Lee with three Es with an apostrophe S (Leee), Monday, 10 March 2014 19:41 (ten years ago) link
Hey guys, I'm watching BSG for the first time at the moment, so it'd be nice if you didn't post any spoilers about it to the Star Trek thread. (General conversation/comparisons are okay, but I'd hate to accidentally catch some major plot point.)
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 08:29 (ten years ago) link
Noted. I look forward to hearing what you think about BSG.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 11:21 (ten years ago) link
My advice: Don't let the haters get you done. And never read the BSG thread.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 11:37 (ten years ago) link
I'm in the middle of season 2, and I've been reading the season 1 and 2 threads, and they generally seem to be full of praise. When do the haters appear?
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 11:40 (ten years ago) link
Rumblings begin in season 3. Out in full force by the end of season 3.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 11:58 (ten years ago) link
you will finally understand the mystery of carl agatha's display name
― have a nice blood (mh), Tuesday, 11 March 2014 13:41 (ten years ago) link
Jeff otm. If you really feel masochistic, read the thread after you're done with the whole series, but don't look until then
― Nhex, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 13:44 (ten years ago) link
if you really feel masochistic, watch the whole series
― socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 11 March 2014 15:06 (ten years ago) link
Meanwhile in a random related Trek bit -- hadn't realized until I actually saw it that Brannon Braga directed the first episode of the new Cosmos and apparently is one of the producers or executive producers as well. Made a LOT of sense that there was a certain Trek feel to the space sequences as a result.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 15:11 (ten years ago) link
Was Ron Moore involved with 24, too?Lot more trek cameos in 24.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 15:11 (ten years ago) link
Oh yeah at the beginning of cosmos I thought they were going to sing ITS BEEN A LONNNNNG ROAAAAAD
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 15:12 (ten years ago) link
does cosmos go into the whole klingons thing
― socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 11 March 2014 15:12 (ten years ago) link
oh god the enterprise theme song
― have a nice blood (mh), Tuesday, 11 March 2014 15:14 (ten years ago) link
Cosmos actually had a Mass Effect feel to me.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 15:23 (ten years ago) link
v curious about Tuomas reaction to BSG's later seasons
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 11 March 2014 15:52 (ten years ago) link
my prob with later seasons of BSG was there was too much confusion, and I couldn't get no relief
― you are clinically deaf and should sell you iPod (stevie), Tuesday, 11 March 2014 15:54 (ten years ago) link
spoiler
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 11 March 2014 16:07 (ten years ago) link
I honestly love the yacht-rocky Enterprise theme - certainly beats Voyager and DS9
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 16:55 (ten years ago) link
Same!
― Lee with three Es with an apostrophe S (Leee), Tuesday, 11 March 2014 17:04 (ten years ago) link
The DS9 theme song (original version), is my favorite of the entire franchise.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 17:07 (ten years ago) link
lol I said to Mr Veg that the Cosmos theme sounded like a mashup of DS9 and Enterprise
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 11 March 2014 17:25 (ten years ago) link
with a little bit of theme song from Elf thrown in :)
omgggggggggg I love the DS9 theme. Or at least from seasons 1-3. They changed it in season 4 and I don't like that one as much.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 18:00 (ten years ago) link
i never much liked the spinoff themes but appreciated that they tried to embed some kind of continuity within the theme songs by putting a little snippet of another trek theme inside it.i always found it weird how the paramount fanfare at the end sounded so close to the star wars theme though.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 18:26 (ten years ago) link
the enterprise theme song is one of the worst things foisted on the human race, ever
I sing it at my cat when he's been a shithead
― have a nice blood (mh), Tuesday, 11 March 2014 18:28 (ten years ago) link
i'm cooking dog fooooooooodcause you've been a real shitheaaaad
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 18:29 (ten years ago) link
I love the Ron Jones-era music (they fired him in the fourth season I believe). It's totally John Carpenter-esque and weird and great. The music gets pretty boring after he left.
OTM, I really dig the Ron jones sound.
― grape is the flavor of my true love's hair (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 11 March 2014 19:55 (ten years ago) link
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/Inuxx/vlcsnap-00001_zps19cdcf20.png
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 17 March 2014 07:02 (ten years ago) link
oh god it's the Next Generation episode where Data learns about "humour" from holodeck Joe Piscopo
― Angkor Waht (Neil S), Monday, 24 March 2014 20:20 (ten years ago) link
he does have the good grace to admit that "jokes aren't my forte" at least
― Angkor Waht (Neil S), Monday, 24 March 2014 20:21 (ten years ago) link
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/07/star-trek-actress-lends-her-gravitas-to-film-promoting-idea-that-sun-revolves-around-earth/
well okay.
― Merdeyeux, Monday, 7 April 2014 20:03 (ten years ago) link
About one in four Americans believe in geocentrism, which places the Earth at the center of the universe and the sun, planets, and stars revolving around it.
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 April 2014 20:06 (ten years ago) link
Oof. I'm hoping Mulgrew didn't know what she was in for.
― Nhex, Monday, 7 April 2014 20:08 (ten years ago) link
Her brother is a colleague of mine at work, and the impression that I get is that she's a little cuckoo.
― bi-polar uncle (its OK-he's dead) (Phil D.), Monday, 7 April 2014 20:09 (ten years ago) link
She's very pro-life, too.
― carl agatha, Monday, 7 April 2014 20:29 (ten years ago) link
:(
― Ned Zeppelin (Leee), Monday, 7 April 2014 20:41 (ten years ago) link
Is she herself geocentric?
― MV, Monday, 7 April 2014 20:52 (ten years ago) link