sounds like the name of an adulterer to me.
― fucking nobodies (Treeship), Sunday, 9 March 2014 12:48 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/PnJ6ghv.jpg
― Yuri Bashment (ShariVari), Sunday, 9 March 2014 12:51 (ten years ago) link
I thought sleepingbag was polling some dummy's Youtube or Tumblr rant
― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Sunday, 9 March 2014 13:01 (ten years ago) link
I'm of the generation that grew up with Kim and Thurston as kind of "cool older siblings" - and watched them grapple with the same issues that I was facing. How do you maintain a relationship in the face of your political beliefs, and your belief in gender equality? How do you negotiate the desire to not participate in the more abhorrent aspects of consumer society, while still making a liveable standard of living? They seemed to do it well. It wasn't that I was holding them to a *different* or higher standard than ~ordinary folk~, it was just that they seemed to do it well enough that, being of my age and class and gender and interests, they got integrated into what I considered to *be* the standard. And it's not just a bog standard "kill yr idols" display, but more a "you lied to us for half a dozen years. I have the right to feel kinda bummed about being lied to, and to revise my opinions of you, rather than revise my moral standards."
Not sure I follow this at all.
― mohel hell (Bob Six), Sunday, 9 March 2014 13:07 (ten years ago) link
Don't worry, it was just me thinking out loud; the ILX equivalent of a YouTube rant or whatever.
― claim you hate me; read my twitter account ~religiously~ (Branwell Bell), Sunday, 9 March 2014 13:15 (ten years ago) link
It is easy to follow
― Andreass Twerckmeister (wins), Sunday, 9 March 2014 13:28 (ten years ago) link
http://i62.tinypic.com/2rdb4o8.jpg
― real myst opportunity (sleepingbag), Sunday, 9 March 2014 15:34 (ten years ago) link
Seems like we have some people taking this poll incredibly seriously, and others who think it's some sort of joke. Let's all DROP the balogna and get serious Right Now.
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 9 March 2014 15:43 (ten years ago) link
karl's right. this isn't a playground people. this isn't twitter.
― james franco, Sunday, 9 March 2014 15:51 (ten years ago) link
btw turns out "cis" is a word they had to make up for, like, normal dudes
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 March 2014 16:00 (ten years ago) link
Stands for "cool it, simp" iirc
― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Sunday, 9 March 2014 16:03 (ten years ago) link
terrible how language evolves in ways that make people feel less alienated by normative gender categories.
― james franco, Sunday, 9 March 2014 16:31 (ten years ago) link
voted "why even be in a band"
― death and darkness and other night kinda shit (crüt), Sunday, 9 March 2014 16:33 (ten years ago) link
"normal"
― bi-polar uncle (its OK-he's dead) (Phil D.), Sunday, 9 March 2014 16:35 (ten years ago) link
Hedgehod FTW
― StanM, Sunday, 9 March 2014 16:39 (ten years ago) link
obviously i voted for sonic
― struggle blogger (Andre Gunder Frank 3000), Sunday, 9 March 2014 17:21 (ten years ago) link
Is this the sum total of his 'collaboration' with Amacher?:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRrksHhVfj8
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 9 March 2014 19:35 (ten years ago) link
like, don't you have to have at least a single song that regular ppl can name to be an important band
voted for this
― sleeve, Sunday, 9 March 2014 22:39 (ten years ago) link
why does new york think every one of it's 900000 garbage rock bands are legendary or w/e
this was the clear winner for me
― Treeship, Sunday, 9 March 2014 22:40 (ten years ago) link
like, don't you have to have at least a single song that regular ppl can name to be an important band____________________________________voted for this― sleeve, Sunday, March 9, 2014
____________________________________
― sleeve, Sunday, March 9, 2014
otm. for instance, most people can name the title of at least two imagine dragons songs, but can't name the title of at least one johannes brahms song. and which of them is a more important act? that's right. thank you.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Sunday, 9 March 2014 22:50 (ten years ago) link
write in vote for 'what a retarded fucking poll, jesus fucking christ'
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Sunday, 9 March 2014 22:55 (ten years ago) link
There's a band called Johannes Brahms?
― DDD, Sunday, 9 March 2014 22:55 (ten years ago) link
Brohannes Jahms, actually.
― emil.y, Sunday, 9 March 2014 22:57 (ten years ago) link
second-greatest band ever, behind maroon 5. but for obscure music-lovers only, so not an "important band."
― Daniel, Esq 2, Sunday, 9 March 2014 23:01 (ten years ago) link
I should start a poll about shitty it is to say "retarded" in 2014
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 9 March 2014 23:03 (ten years ago) link
lol at Brohannes Jams
― μ thant (seandalai), Sunday, 9 March 2014 23:20 (ten years ago) link
Cosign also "HMMMM"ing at ppl thinking this is is either a srs OR rly dumb poll
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Sunday, 9 March 2014 23:59 (ten years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Monday, 10 March 2014 00:01 (ten years ago) link
lol
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Monday, 10 March 2014 00:03 (ten years ago) link
this poll is top notch, certain other pollstarters might consider studying it for tips about form and content.
― estela, Monday, 10 March 2014 00:10 (ten years ago) link
sonic thedgehod definitely a contender in putatively forthcoming POLL WINNERS' POLL 3
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Monday, 10 March 2014 00:19 (ten years ago) link
f was robbed
― Wahaca Flocka Flame (DJP), Monday, 10 March 2014 02:41 (ten years ago) link
Brohannes Jahms = superlolz
― is olympic hamsterwheel a thing? (staggerlee), Monday, 10 March 2014 05:42 (ten years ago) link
Good poll sry to have missed it tbh needed to be on a board more ppl had heard of
― peak environmental scaremongering (darraghmac), Monday, 10 March 2014 09:45 (ten years ago) link
a worthy victor
― μ thant (seandalai), Monday, 10 March 2014 10:22 (ten years ago) link
i don't know what sleepingbag's agenda was with this poll. i don't think it was to undermine the indie rock canon in any serious sense,
IT WAS TO UNDERMINE THE INDIE ROCK CANON IN A SERIOUS SENSE
― (ADVANCE) (320k vbr) (--V2) (aps) (diVX) (2CD) OST - SB (2019) (esby), Friday, 11 January 2019 20:16 (five years ago) link
I partied with Lydia Lunch last yr
― sarahell, Friday, 11 January 2019 20:21 (five years ago) link
Who?
― slack thompson (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 11 January 2019 20:45 (five years ago) link
lmao
― (ADVANCE) (320k vbr) (--V2) (aps) (diVX) (2CD) OST - SB (2019) (esby), Friday, 11 January 2019 20:45 (five years ago) link
two ppl voted for the poll option w/her name on it what can i say
― sarahell, Friday, 11 January 2019 20:52 (five years ago) link
I'd like to know what Lydia Lunch's version of "partying" looks like. People berating caged kittens is probably her idea of a good time.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 11 January 2019 21:10 (five years ago) link
bourbon + cocaine + flirting with guys much younger than her -- I can respect the first and third activity
― sarahell, Friday, 11 January 2019 21:20 (five years ago) link
about what i expected. her voice is... something else these days. i saw her and her band a few months ago and they were pretty great tbh.
― circa1916, Friday, 11 January 2019 21:27 (five years ago) link
yeah, she still has good energy on stage, but she can't hit the notes from that early Teenage Jesus material -- sounds more like Bea Arthur. I am fond of Bea Arthur tho
― sarahell, Friday, 11 January 2019 21:37 (five years ago) link
I haven't partied with Lydia exactly but I did see her do a semi-private "video retrospective" in the pre-Youtube days where she showed video from her personal collection of TJ & J & 8-Eyed Spy & Shotgun Wedding and so on and so on and she also graphically & ruthlessly broke down the sexual proclivities of her various collaborators and it was one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
It was like Bea Arthur if Bea Arthur knew everything about Rowland S Howard's dick
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, 11 January 2019 21:47 (five years ago) link
I haven’t partied with Lydia but I have done the caged kitten thing
― Pierrot with a thousand farces (wins), Friday, 11 January 2019 21:49 (five years ago) link
I love a few Lydia Lunch albums btw. Sry for the dumb joke
― slack thompson (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 11 January 2019 21:58 (five years ago) link
I have no idea what her physical appearance is like these days, but she's an absolutely wretched person.👍🏽
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 11 January 2019 21:58 (five years ago) link
the first Sonic Youth drummer is so good in 'Stranger Than Paradise'
― nicky lo-fi, Sunday, 13 January 2019 19:56 (five years ago) link
Wow, I didn’t know that guy was in SY... (He was also in Ferris Bueller, lol)
― i stan corrected (morrisp), Sunday, 13 January 2019 20:03 (five years ago) link
And Eight Men Out
― brimstead, Monday, 14 January 2019 20:33 (five years ago) link
xp - why do you think she's an absolutely wretched person? (not saying you are wrong)
― sarahell, Monday, 14 January 2019 20:35 (five years ago) link
Branwell overthinking really obvious things, as usual, because that is what Branwell does on a Sunday morning:
Like, OMG, duh, you are literally the first person in the world that has pointed out that "celebrity" is a meaningless term! "Celebrity" does not mean a fucking thing these days, now that anyone, even heiresses and indie-rock stars can become ~celebrities~. Not like in the olden days, when Celebrity meant an actual Godlike Celebrity, like Zeus, or Napoleon, or that codger in the next village over who threw a kettle over the pub.
Celebrity means little more than "a person, who is not personally known to me, who nonetheless *means* something to me and whose behaviour is interesting to me."
You may not know this person, and yet you follow their behaviour because you use them as a kind of personal benchmark of what is noble, what is despicable, what is admirable, be that inspiration or aspiration or cautionary tale. When a large enough group of people use the same person in that way, that person becomes a "Celebrity". Now you can argue back and forth all day about how large a group of people it takes to make a person a "celebrity" but Celebrities themselves, they have a use, a purpose, and when people start making those noises about 'omg celebrity culture is ~so terrible~!!!' all that makes me think is "wow, you really don't understand how humans work.'
I *get* why people hate the preponderance of Indie Rock Canon on this board, and revoking Thurston's status as celebrity - or indeed mocking people who consider him and his behaviour worthy of note or discussion - can certainly be a reflection of dismantling the overlong cultural influence of Indie Rock. But on the other hand, when it becomes a stick to beat people with "why do you care about this dumb shit" I think it's pretty obvious why people care about this dumb shit: because people use 'Celebrities" as moral bellwethers of themselves and their perceived group.
"Who even is this guy" is a perfectly normal response if it's not your generation or not your culture or not your standard. But "Why do you even care about celebrities" is one of those things that makes me instantly question the wisdom of the sayer, rather than the concept of "celebrity".
― claim you hate me; read my twitter account ~religiously~ (Branwell Bell), Sunday, March 9, 2014 4:54 AM (five years ago) bookmarkflaglink
― lumen (esby), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 03:23 (four years ago) link
Sonic Youth member has been my gold standard of comfortable level of celebrity forever - pretty sure they're all set up financially, Kim/Thurston/Lee could get a table at a hot restaurant or invite to an exclusive event if they want it, but they're not famous enough to have to deal with paparazzi.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 04:04 (four years ago) link
seemed like every other person i knew during my college days in western massachusetts had a gordon/mascis/moore story to tell and all of them reaffirmed my belief to let celebrities and people in general be.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 06:14 (four years ago) link
Still find it fascinating I saw Thurston nearly ride his bike into a bus in Stoke Newington. sonic thedgehod
― a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 07:21 (four years ago) link
Stokey Youth.
― Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 09:33 (four years ago) link