How many times is Godzilla going to be rebooted? 2014 edition

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i know it was going for a way different vibe, but i hope this can provide the monster-destroying-city action that Pacific Rim was woefully short on.

ryan, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:29 (ten years ago) link

commercial's great, that's for sure. better to only hint at the monster (like with the rising ocean), or show it for a second or two.

30 years later, and the techniques used in jaws still hold true.

Daniel, Esq 2, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:31 (ten years ago) link

looks great. don't know why but remakes of franchise movies like this bother me so much less than remakes of stand alone films (point break ,oldboy etc)

TheMenzies, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:35 (ten years ago) link

I like they they've kept him tied (it seems) to the post-WW2 nuclear age.

ryan, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:38 (ten years ago) link

yeah, is that vegas?

idk, i'm in. why not? monsters was really good, good cast here.

goole, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:39 (ten years ago) link

not sure the other "viral" marketing video they've released -- the godzilla "roar" -- is as effective.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z0T3VwHzk8

meh. the "roar" video wouldn't, of course, get the rare "5 out of 5 schmoes" that the official trailer did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHyThBpoR1o

Daniel, Esq 2, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:40 (ten years ago) link

So, is there much talk of what this will be about ? Trailer implies Godzilla vs something ... some flying thing? Some tentacle thing? Both?

Weird how poor some of the effects look in the trailer (such as the wave carrying ships towards the camera) but I guess this is something they'll be rendering till just before release. Can't say I'm excited, but this did make me curious about a movie I until now assumed I wouldn't watch. The opening shots were good (corked traffic & crashed plane; tumbling buildings & origami birds)

Actually, went back now and it does seems to be some avian creature. There's a shot at 1:30 of guys aiming their guns up at a large, descending silhouette, then a shot of something — presumably the same thing — slipping into the ocean between a couple of crashing airplanes.

Øystein, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 00:03 (ten years ago) link

i liked the wave!

Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 00:05 (ten years ago) link

30 years later, and the techniques used in jaws still hold true.

― Daniel, Esq 2, Tuesday, February 25, 2014 6:31 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark

haha well i'd argue it doesnt hold true at all for daikaiju films... but this is just advertising and it looks like a good approach for what they're doing

i laughed (in a good way) at the line that was like 'the nuclear tests from 1954... they weren't tests, they were trying to kill it!!!'

AIDS (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 00:09 (ten years ago) link

Is that Ligetti music the same as the one in 2001.. i'm sure it is? Also a quick flash of Geiger/Alien vibes at 1 point.

piscesx, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 00:41 (ten years ago) link

yes

AIDS (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 00:42 (ten years ago) link

This looks really cool

faith driven consumer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 02:49 (ten years ago) link

Usually my rule of thumb is the cooler the trailer looks, the more disappointing the final film will be. But as long as they keep a lot of the surprises under wraps, and as long as what we see looks, visually, like something the guy who did "Monsters" did - which this does - I'm happy. Mentioned it upthread and will mention it again, but what made "Monsters" special (imo) is how well-written and acted the people stuff was, especially for a movie called "Monsters." Looking forward to seeing the guy pull it off again on a much larger scale.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 14:20 (ten years ago) link

Really hope those miniature Mothra twins make a cameo

faith driven consumer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 14:44 (ten years ago) link

This actually looks kinda okay! Reasonably sold on it as a 'terrifying beast smashes things' movie, and I think I saw Maggie Gyllenhaal in there so I'm in.

It'd be great if it had a strong 'idea' hook too - I mean it's obvious but the original Gojira from the Fifties was actually a, like, good movie (some slow talky scenes aside) with all kinds of resonances in post-Occupation Japan - the trauma of bomb devastation re-enacted, the useless government, the shaky faith in technical progress, an attempt to rehabilitate doomsday weapons by binding them with old-school honor/guilt, etc.... Obviously it'd be easy to do this as 9/11 stuff but frankly that's been done to death in the genre of building-destruction porn and anyway it's been a while, they should find some new anxieties to really tap into. Global warming/wild weather stuff, maybe. I guess that's why I really like the 'mostly smoke' aspect of this, seems less about wrenching every last drop of suppressed sublimation out of the WTC attacks. Could be quickly proven wrong obv. But it would be cool if this touched some nerves.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 15:02 (ten years ago) link

There was a lot of metaphor and whatnot swimming around "Monsters," too, but I don't want to spoil that movie for anyone who hasn't seen it yet.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 15:04 (ten years ago) link

did you see the desert mountains in the background
― AIDS (Hungry4Ass)

so this is las vegas?

PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 15:09 (ten years ago) link

It would be awesome of Godzilla is not as big as the posters make it seem, and that it's just him destroying Vegas.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 15:15 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uuIVn5cq5U

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 15:16 (ten years ago) link

It seems really strange to recycle that Ligetti piece ... its association with 2001 is so strong

maybe the assumption is that no one seeing a Godzilla movie in 2014 is old enough to have seen 2001?

Brad C., Wednesday, 26 February 2014 15:42 (ten years ago) link

I'm pretty sure they just picked it because it sounds cool. Trailers use music from other movies all the time. Original scores are rarely done until fairly close to release.

faith driven consumer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 16:28 (ten years ago) link

key target audience of godzilla in 2014 was BORN in 2001
**mind blown**

PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 16:41 (ten years ago) link

I'd rather they reuse Ligetti than the damn airhorn noise from "Inception." Again.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 17:05 (ten years ago) link

iirc the Ligeti and other classical pieces in 2001 were originally temporary music, Kubrick kept them in after he decided he hated Alex North's score

too bad Kubrick never directed a Godzilla reboot

Brad C., Wednesday, 26 February 2014 17:29 (ten years ago) link

still kinda O_O at how fucking HUGE this godzilla is

it's like nine times huger than any other one I've seen. exciting!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 17:48 (ten years ago) link

The casting of this film is so incongruous for a hollywood blockbuster that I love it. I mean Juliette Binoche, Sally Hawkins, and Martha Marcy May Olsen are like an art house goddess triumvirate. "Monsters" was an ace scifi that cost famously all of $500,000. This is Edward's only other gig and was reportedly made for $160 million. how the hell does that happen? Especially after the dreck that was the 1998 film.

danzig, Thursday, 27 February 2014 00:24 (ten years ago) link

still kinda O_O at how fucking HUGE this godzilla is

it's like nine times huger than any other one I've seen. exciting!

I love love love that you went with "nine times huger" instead of ten. Seriously awesome.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 27 February 2014 00:30 (ten years ago) link

i don't recall the last time everyone on ilx got psyched for a blockbuster type movie that wasn't a Batman. must be years anyway.

piscesx, Thursday, 27 February 2014 02:11 (ten years ago) link

or, you know, gravity/pacific rim

effervescent (soda), Thursday, 27 February 2014 02:24 (ten years ago) link

xxpost EZ: <3

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 27 February 2014 03:29 (ten years ago) link

ok I watched ''Monsters" tonight finally to see what all the hoopla was about

if godzilla looks anything like that, hooray.

but if he playfakes me into watching another hour plus of glassy-eyed indie fuxxors holding hands & staring at landscapes I *will* be fucking pissed

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 27 February 2014 06:42 (ten years ago) link

the actual monsters were bitchin tho

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 27 February 2014 06:43 (ten years ago) link

The real special effects in Monsters are...human emotions

faith driven consumer (latebloomer), Thursday, 27 February 2014 20:56 (ten years ago) link

lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 27 February 2014 20:57 (ten years ago) link

the monsters are....us

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 27 February 2014 21:00 (ten years ago) link

lol seriously by the halfway mark I was silently praying that that would not be part of it

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 27 February 2014 21:01 (ten years ago) link

Hooray, I've ordered _Monsters_ from the library. After viewing the trailer on youtube, it was pretty amusing to read the comments. A perky mix of dopes who adore the movie and bros who are real mad about the movie being boring relationship crap that shouldn't be called MONSTERS c'mon wtf suxx.

Øystein, Thursday, 27 February 2014 22:08 (ten years ago) link

yeah rented Monsters last night cuz of this thread (haven't watched it yet)

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 27 February 2014 22:13 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WDXpZvbpl8

Hope they included this on the soundtrack, best Godzilla raps!

Tuomas, Thursday, 27 February 2014 22:35 (ten years ago) link

"Monsters" rules, if you don't like it you don't like people, you monsters.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 February 2014 22:50 (ten years ago) link

ppl suck, monsters rule

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 27 February 2014 23:26 (ten years ago) link

Hope the new subtitles are as on point as this:

https://24.media.tumblr.com/eed86711a981c9b7c6fe8c04aa78c319/tumblr_n25d3vzJl01r1x4nlo1_400.gif

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 22:58 (ten years ago) link

hahaha that one cow is hauling ass

balls, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 23:03 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Man, I haven't been this excited for a movie based on the trailer since I was 13 and I saw an ad for "Predator" during the commercials in SNL:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC3Mi9vOb_8#t=154

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 6 April 2014 15:09 (ten years ago) link

I have this vague suspicion/hope that Cranston will be TOO good in this movie, accurately capturing the fury and horror a scientist would feel in this apocalyptic scenario, the way Battle:Los Angeles got across how utterly miserable it would be to endure an alien invasion.

da croupier, Sunday, 6 April 2014 16:06 (ten years ago) link

"why would my character smile and light a cigar? yes, godzilla has fallen, but the scenario that caused his return remains...his wife is still dead...sure, there would be some relief but...no...there would still be agony, trauma..."

da croupier, Sunday, 6 April 2014 16:11 (ten years ago) link

heh.

Anyway, Cranston and Juliette Binoche! Aaron Taylor-Johnson and Elizabeth Olsen! Ken Watanabe and Sally Hawkins! David Strathairn! From a director equally adept with people and effects! If anything this whole movie is too good for "Godzilla."

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 6 April 2014 16:12 (ten years ago) link

nothing is too good for Godzilla

Quinoa Phoenix (latebloomer), Sunday, 6 April 2014 16:17 (ten years ago) link

To step on.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 6 April 2014 16:22 (ten years ago) link

yeah Mr Veg was telling me it was some weird deal
with Showa & Paramount where if Showa releases the movie theatrically Paramount won’t show it on streaming for x amount of time, like a year?

idk i may have the details all wrong

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 29 March 2024 23:33 (three weeks ago) link

Showa meaning Toho? (I mean, Toho is happy to take Warner Bros/Legendary money!)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 March 2024 23:49 (three weeks ago) link

ugh yes toho sry

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 30 March 2024 01:50 (two weeks ago) link

I watched the new one with my 14yo Godzilla suoerfan son. My expectations were near zero, so to that end it surpassed my expectations and was perfectly entertaining, albeit with a low bar. But all of Ned’s comments above are spot on too.

Even with the threadbare connections from movie to movie, I just don’t think this franchise can sustain multi-film narrative arc. By now the majority of the film takes place in the fictional Hollow Earth realm, and the human characters are on more or less friendly terms with the titular monsters. There’s just no TERROR. And yeah like Ned said, when the action does take place in recognizable cities, the carnage is so cartoonish it’s totally devoid of any sense of what ought to be inconceivable tragedy.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, 30 March 2024 05:03 (two weeks ago) link


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