Has anyone in this bitch ever visted Peru?

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Chan Chan is completely amazing, seconded.

if u are a drinker, Ica probably has the best local pisco

sleeve, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 17:01 (ten years ago) link

Ica itself is a bit of a dump by the way. Nearby Huacachina is a much more atmospheric place to stay. Plus they have sandboarding.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 17:01 (ten years ago) link

I can drink pisco as well as the next man, if the next man is someone who likes to drink pisco.

Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 17:02 (ten years ago) link

yeah, I don't think Ica has fully recovered from the 2007 earthquake

xp

sleeve, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 17:02 (ten years ago) link

if u are a drinker, Ica probably has the best local pisco

― sleeve

I think they residents of Pisco might argue with that! I actually spent two months volunteering there in a wonderful earthquake relief project which has now sadly shut down. It's a town which is very close to my heart, but doesn't really have much to offer the casual tourist.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 17:03 (ten years ago) link

ah yes you are probably right about the actual town of Pisco, I have not been to the Ica region

sleeve, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 17:06 (ten years ago) link

Peru is a very interesting country. My ex was from Cañete/Arequipa.

@aldo, that itinerary sounds doable.

I think the best pisco isn't necessarily in Pisco, either. And yes, there isn't much to do there.

I never liked Lima, but I have to say it has improved a lot. A lot of things have gotten more expensive, as well.

You'll have fun. It's a beautiful country filled with so much history and culture.

Foods to try:

*When in Arequipa, ocopa
*Seco de cordero con frejoles (MY FAVOURITE! Traditionally, it is made with lamb, but it is most often served with beef. It's frejoles in Peru, not 'frijoles' (:)
*Ceviche (Lima/coastal cities are known for their fresh seafood; it's done differently than in other Latin American countries--it's spelt cebiche in Spanish (:)
*Ají de gallina (curried chicken/hen)
*Arroz con pato/pollo
*Yuca frita (fried cassava root with 'ají):
*'Ají' or 'ajicito' or 'ajicito verde' is a catch-all term Peruvians use for a spicy sauce, many times green. They eat it with a lot of stuff. It is typical for a family and many restaurants to have it and serve kind of like ketchup. Essays have been written on it. That's how important it is.
*Chupe de camarones (in Lima, maybe)
*Helado de lúcuma (ice cream made from lucuma; the fruit is basically from Peru. If you eat it in another country, it doesn't taste the same)
*Try emoliente
*Whilst in the south, try a chilcano (popular cocktail), not just pisco sour

Other stuff may require you to go off the beaten path, so I won't mention it.

Too bad you're not going to Huancayo, otherwise you could eat and watch them cook pachamanca.

That's all that comes to mind for now.

, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 18:44 (ten years ago) link

(By the way, I have a 'special' relationship with the country, so I can try answering some of your questions, as well.)

, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 18:47 (ten years ago) link

seven years pass...

The Peruvian far-right opts for the Trump/Bolivian opposition strategy: Cry fraud when it becomes clear you've lost. Political and racial violence follows. https://t.co/XMWxCLvTqo

— Ollie Vargas (@OVargas52) June 8, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 07:46 (two years ago) link

🇵🇪🇵🇪🇵🇪 #PeruElecciones2021 - a quick summary thread for those following in the UK.

As of Tuesday morning (~3am in Peru) Pedro Castillo has a growing but narrow lead over Keiko Fujimori.

Ignore anyone who says this is over / Castillo has already won 1/8https://t.co/pEJXheJ4hT

— Daniel Willis (@not_DJW) June 8, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 09:04 (two years ago) link

It's vital those watching from the UK view these claims of fraud critically, rather than piling in with assumptions.

The international acceptance of far right claims of fraud in Bolivia in 2019 were crucial in creating the space for the coup to happen.

that could be addressed to a few posters on here.

calzino, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 09:11 (two years ago) link

Given how reactionary their reporting on Latin American politics is, the Guardian may as well dispense with their own correspondents and directly reprint state department press releases pic.twitter.com/kmgvUV6wFx

— Ed (@emcnally96) June 7, 2021

calzino, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 09:25 (two years ago) link

As a Marxist teacher wins the election in Peru 🇵🇪, the country's elite are melting down and pulling their money out the country, proving once again that the upper class everywhere hate democracy and are willing to destroy society to try to get what they want. pic.twitter.com/aE76epYAMp

— Alan MacLeod (@AlanRMacLeod) June 8, 2021

calzino, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 09:32 (two years ago) link

If Pedro Castillo wins, the country will take a lurch to the left of unknown magnitude https://t.co/UsB69EQ1H9

— The Economist (@TheEconomist) June 8, 2021

The Economist endorsing the fascists again is it.

calzino, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 11:35 (two years ago) link

a lurch is it

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 11:42 (two years ago) link

i suppose the economist would prefer castillo to work collaboratively with oligarchs and criminals on an incremental approach to socialism

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 11:43 (two years ago) link

The Economist only fell with the Tories over brexit and do not give a flying fuck about democracy, rampant poverty and civil rights abuses, because that is the nature of neoliberalism. But a "free-market success story" is pure fiction.

calzino, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 11:53 (two years ago) link

International observers are saying (unlike some in Bolivia) the election was fair so I don't know what excuse can the usual suspects who post here find for not supporting the left-wing candidate but I expect them to get creative.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 12:40 (two years ago) link

Pedro Castillo addresses supporters gathered outside his campaign office in Lima for the third straight night. Crowds are celebrating what looks to be an unstoppable victory. Castillo asks that they "be vigilant of democracy" during these key hours.pic.twitter.com/vtD1Jdl7DS

— Kawsachun News (@KawsachunNews) June 9, 2021

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 09:55 (two years ago) link

Pedro Castillo got 0 votes in Miami lol pic.twitter.com/dNwkyhZJRd

— Ollie Vargas (@OVargas52) June 9, 2021

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 20:33 (two years ago) link

The richest Peruvian I know (who tbf lives in Europe) is all in for Castillo

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 20:45 (two years ago) link

(to be more complete his first choice was Veronika Mendoza but when it came down to Castillo vs Fujimori he saw the choice as very clear.)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 20:47 (two years ago) link

still marginally ahead at 99.82% of votes counted.

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 20:54 (two years ago) link

Excellent xp

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 20:55 (two years ago) link

some enjoyable chilean memes going around about chile being driven onto the antarctic when he wins

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 21:01 (two years ago) link

So weird how they're just going to give the presidency to the person who won the most votes, do they not understand that democracy requires the election to be decided by the outcome in three or four Andean swing districts

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 21:05 (two years ago) link

lol at some of these contested Peruvian votes being counted right now
(via @remoto97) pic.twitter.com/AjltOvbCMf

— Populism Updates (@PopulismUpdates) June 9, 2021

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 21:58 (two years ago) link

yeah out of the maybe 2 dozen Peruvians we know and are in touch with, only one is legit for Keiko and one takes the "I think the backlash will be worse so I'm against him" viewpoint, everyone else is solidly for El Profesor

sleeve, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 22:45 (two years ago) link

Still awfully tight. A 67,000 lead is nothing. Hope Castillo wins.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 10 June 2021 00:06 (two years ago) link

Left-wing candidate Pedro Castillo wins #Peru's presidential election

▪️Left-wing Castillo, candidate of Free Peru Party, won 8,804,439 votes and won the election with 50.2%.
▪️Popular Force candidate, right-wing Keiko Fujimori won 8,735,472 votes and narrowly lost with 49.8%. pic.twitter.com/cClyvRsrWL

— EHA News (@eha_news) June 11, 2021

idk how reliable this is or if this election has officially been called yet but also Japan Times are reporting that some top Peruvian prosecutor is moving to have Fujimori arrested.

calzino, Friday, 11 June 2021 07:28 (two years ago) link

I love how even Peruvian Tories somehow look like they went to Durham pic.twitter.com/GsQbD6vL0j

— Ghostface Kafka (36 Chambers) (@TheKafkaDude) June 11, 2021

calzino, Friday, 11 June 2021 13:49 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I wrote about the Peruvian elections, about a country stuck in limbo for days following accusations of fraud and about racism. Gracias @contracultural y @ramosdesal! https://t.co/SJb8P4V9IN

— Valeria CK (@valeria_wants) June 16, 2021

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 27 June 2021 09:49 (two years ago) link

it's pretty bad

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 27 June 2021 09:55 (two years ago) link

yeah I'm not happy abt the situation

sleeve, Sunday, 27 June 2021 15:17 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Castillo has been proclaimed president 43 days after election day!! Here's a second story I wrote about what happened during that strange period: https://t.co/OjFrq0QJ0O

— Valeria CK (@valeria_wants) July 20, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 20 July 2021 10:02 (two years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/20/castillo-set-to-become-peru-president-as-rival-fujimori-says-she-will-recognise-result

Castillo has pledged to redraft the constitution and raise taxes on mining firms, but has in recent weeks softened his rhetoric and hinted at a more moderate, market-friendly approach.

hmmm

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 20 July 2021 10:40 (two years ago) link

Well this sounds a lot like if Corbyn made it to PM.

"Even if Castillo is elected, Toledo is convinced Peru is “much more likely to face ungovernability than communism.” He would face strong opposition in Congress, from the country’s elite and the media. And while Castillo “will need to figure out how to last a year,” Peruvians will have to figure how to live with each other. As Toledo says: “we are getting to the bicentenary without having found a single thing that Peruvians… could have in common.”"

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 20 July 2021 11:12 (two years ago) link

Britain’s liberal broadsheet, ladies and gentlemen. pic.twitter.com/XfUWSd3OHP

— Flying_Rodent (@flying_rodent) July 30, 2021

xyzzzz__, Friday, 30 July 2021 12:19 (two years ago) link

oh yah, my capitalist Peruvian friend is super pissed rn

sleeve, Friday, 30 July 2021 15:07 (two years ago) link

Peru itself as independent state turned 200 on Wednesday, so quite a marker!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 July 2021 15:10 (two years ago) link

is Fujimori going to prison now?

calzino, Friday, 30 July 2021 15:13 (two years ago) link

castillo isnt really a "marxist". bit of a sui generis, for northern hemisphere observers, populist socialist, social conservative, peruvian nationalist (from an agrarian and indigenous/mestizo lens).

in his first speech as president he said that young people not employed or studying should do military service. i do think we might have a bit of a mad-lad on our hands. hopefully he doesn't start saber-rattling with chile.

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Friday, 30 July 2021 18:22 (two years ago) link

Yeah that guardian headline is just libs. He is no commie but it'll be interesting to see what he does, or the ppl he brings along do.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 30 July 2021 18:28 (two years ago) link

Of course there would be a UK Labour MP decrying this election as no choice at all and inaccurately as "a country going down the failed marxist route" who likely wouldn't have had anything to say on the matter if the country was under the control of a fascistic crime dynasty.

calzino, Sunday, 1 August 2021 08:05 (two years ago) link


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