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"Just reading through it, the main thing it does is eliminate the malicious collision," Posey told ESPN's "Baseball Tonight" on Tuesday morning. "If the catcher is not set up right on top of the plate, it doesn't allow the runner to run through him."

Posey said the tweak to the rule would not alter the way he prepares for the season as a catcher or as a baserunner.

"For the most part, I think it'll stay pretty much the same," Posey said. "We've never been taught to set up right on top of the plate; we've always been taught to give the runner a little bit of the plate.

"[As a baserunner], my mindset, when I'm coming around third, is to slide hard and late."

Texas Rangers catcher J.P. Arencibia said the new rule "takes away the malicious intent behind the play at the plate."

"It stops guys just going out of their way just to try to dislodge the baseball when [catchers] have the plate," Rangers manager Ron Washington said.

Hall of Famer George Brett, the Kansas City Royals' vice president of baseball operations, said he doesn't like the rule even though he understands that the objective is to reduce injuries.

"I'm not a big fan of it," Brett told ESPN.com. "Catchers are taught to put their foot right in front of home plate, and the plays are bang-bang. I like the collision.

"I don't sit around at home at night and think about it. This is the first time I've thought about it since two months ago when somebody told me, 'They can't run into catchers anymore.' I said, 'That sucks. I love that play.'"

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10512206/mlb-bans-home-collisions-1-exception

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 16:02 (five years ago) link

one month passes...
two weeks pass...

I'm sure you've heard, they've fixed this idiotic transfer thing

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/mlb-makes-1st-major-adjustment-of-replay-era-tweaks-transfer-rule-042514

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:59 (five years ago) link

four months pass...

Rules quiz:

http://www.sbnation.com/2014/8/27/6075321/obscure-mlb-rules-quiz

I got 7/10.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 29 August 2014 07:02 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

In the Arizona Fall League this year:

http://deadspin.com/baseball-will-test-out-six-new-rules-to-speed-up-the-ga-1641283166

Hitters must keep at least one foot inside the batter's box at all times, barring exceptions like foul balls, wild pitches, or if the umpire grants him time out.

Pitchers must throw a pitch within 20 seconds of receiving the ball. Clocks posted in each dugout will count down the 20 seconds.

There will be a maximum break between innings of 2:05, with a clock keeping track. Hitters must be in the batter's box by 1:45. If the hitter's not ready, the umpire can call a strike. If the pitcher doesn't throw a pitch by 2:05, the umpire can call a ball.

Teams will have a maximum of 2:30 to change pitchers, with the clock starting as soon as the reliever enters the playing field.

Teams are limited to a maximum of three mound visits per game, not including pitching changes. This applies to trips to the mound by managers, coaches, and catchers.

Pitchers no longer have to deliver four balls for an intentional walk. The manager can simply signal to the umpire.

it's taco science, but it works like taco magic (WilliamC), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 22:33 (four years ago) link

four months pass...
one year passes...

MLB, MLBPA ADOPT SLIDE RULE ON DOUBLE PLAYS, PACE OF GAME CHANGES
Interference Rule Governing Double Play Slides Clarified;
Mound Visits, Break Times Adjusted in Pace of Game Program

mookieproof, Thursday, 25 February 2016 17:09 (three years ago) link

“People watch the UFC. But they get mad when a guy breaks his ankle at second base because of a hard slide. I don't get it." -- Ian Kinsler, future Fox analyst

Andy K, Saturday, 27 February 2016 17:00 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ce_iquoVAAELtrm.jpg:large

mookieproof, Saturday, 2 April 2016 00:13 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

In the 9th last night vs the Mets, Jayson Werth was called out for interference making a late slide on a DP breakup attempt. I'm getting a little sick of Keith Hernandez and Ron Darling grousing about the new unmacho world (Keith sneered about "the geniuses" who effected the rule). Nats GM Rizzo also got into a shouting match with the umps after the game. Tough shit, dinosaurs.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/watch-ninth-inning-slide-rule-call-plays-a-big-part-in-mets-win-over-nats/

https://www.sny.tv/mets/news/nats-gm-ump-argue-over-call-on-werth-slide/188622326

helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 July 2016 16:57 (three years ago) link

seven months pass...

oh go fuck yourselves

"Major League Baseball plans on testing a rule change in the lowest levels of the minor leagues this season that automatically would place a runner on second base at the start of extra innings, a distinct break from the game’s orthodoxy that nonetheless has wide-ranging support at the highest levels of the league, sources familiar with the plan told Yahoo Sports."

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/mlb-plans-to-test-new-extra-innings-rules-in-rookie-ball-with-joe-torres-approval-224914115.html

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 February 2017 12:24 (two years ago) link

What in the blue hell is that all about.

Honestly, I would prefer ties in baseball to a dumb rule change like that.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 9 February 2017 13:55 (two years ago) link

“It’s not fun to watch when you go through your whole pitching staff and wind up bringing a utility infielder in to pitch.

gotta disagree with you there, Joe.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 9 February 2017 15:22 (two years ago) link

i will give you each $1000 if this ever becomes a major league rule

mookieproof, Thursday, 9 February 2017 15:25 (two years ago) link

twist: the free runner on second base is bartolo colon

Karl Malone, Thursday, 9 February 2017 15:28 (two years ago) link

Anthony Castrovince @castrovince
This idea has uncovered quite a number of rookie ball purists.

mookieproof, Thursday, 9 February 2017 16:43 (two years ago) link

first they came for rookie league, and i said nothing

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 February 2017 16:45 (two years ago) link

gonna need one for this, because c'mon

https://twitter.com/AJCassavell/status/831916548369510400

mookieproof, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 18:42 (two years ago) link

that's even worse than jordan walden

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 18:53 (two years ago) link

no one ever calls traveling anymore

na (NA), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 18:58 (two years ago) link

that is a fucking weird delivery.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 19:12 (two years ago) link

Cater Crapps

Andy K, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 19:42 (two years ago) link

@JeffPassan
Rob Manfred: There will not be substantive rules changes in 2017 due to "lack of cooperation from the MLBPA."

mookieproof, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 21:13 (two years ago) link

@EricFisherSBJ
And Manfred then reveals a new chestnut in new labor deal: a unilateral ability by the league to impose rules changes as soon as next yr

@JeffPassan
Among the rules changes MLB could impose, per Manfred: a pitch clock, a smaller strike zone, fewer visits to the mound, auto-intentional BB.

mookieproof, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 21:14 (two years ago) link

yay lack of cooperation

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 21:35 (two years ago) link

As part of its initiative to improve pace-of-game play, Major League Baseball has approved a change to the intentional walk rule, going from the traditional four-pitch walk to a dugout signal, team and union sources told ESPN's Howard Bryant.

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/18737245/mlb-union-agree-get-rid-traditional-intentional-walkwill-use-signal-dugout

Andy K, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 02:01 (two years ago) link

this will save nearly 12 seconds per game

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 02:40 (two years ago) link

i'm so pissed that the miggy cabrera intentional walk single will never happen again

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 03:04 (two years ago) link

ugh

na (NA), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 03:13 (two years ago) link

what about the Johnny Bench WORLD SERIES fake-IBB strikeout?

(1972)

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 03:15 (two years ago) link

i was not alive but that sounds tremendous

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 03:18 (two years ago) link

i know ive posted it before

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TPCNP4_qXo

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 03:34 (two years ago) link

that's bizarre that they did that with two strikes

k3vin k., Wednesday, 22 February 2017 03:51 (two years ago) link

i am in favor of pitch clocks but very much NOT in favor of not having to actually throw the pitches for an IBB wth

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 09:49 (two years ago) link

As a way for all sides to save face (the commish wanted a strike zone change but ffs you can't spring that on the players on short notice in the middle of spring training), this IBB thing suits its purpose.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 11:58 (two years ago) link

Grant Brisbee, like me, is concerned about the commish's "desperate urgency"

http://www.sbnation.com/2017/2/22/14693248/mlb-rule-changes-rob-manfred-intentional-walks-strike-zone

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 19:55 (two years ago) link

Seven-pitch-maximum at-bats -- no "staying alive" with two-strike fouls. If you can't put the ball in play and/or reach base in seven pitches or less, sit down. Three strikes of any combination -- you're out. Quicker game, starters go a little deeper. Will never happen, obv.

Andy K, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 20:37 (two years ago) link

offense would go way way down

k3vin k., Wednesday, 22 February 2017 20:56 (two years ago) link

Tough.

Andy K, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 20:57 (two years ago) link

^apostate

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 21:04 (two years ago) link

@MyKBO
Pace of Play: Will MLB make guys sprint to first after getting hit? KBO rules state player must run to 1st before removing protective gear

mookieproof, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 22:07 (two years ago) link

marchman concurs: http://deadspin.com/baseballs-new-intentional-walk-scheme-is-a-pointless-o-1792633670

my sense is that ownership is indeed frightened, in the long term, about the millennials and their tiny attention spans -- but that fright pales beside anything money-related. this seems more like manfred flexing for the union. if he can paint the union as backward and unhelpful on something relatively meaningless, maybe he can later bargain it away for something that saves owners money.

this rule change is pointless. if they really want to shorten games, enforce existing rules on leaving the batter's box, etc. allow fewer mound visits. what the hell do relievers need eight warmup pitches for? warm up in the bullpen, bitch.

(i figure we're gonna get universal DH before long, which won't shorten games either. i have made my peace with this.)

the money stuff is a constant, ongoing battle, though, and the players union has gotten rolled in the last several CBAs. i think this is mainly a feint as both sides prepare for 2021

mookieproof, Thursday, 23 February 2017 00:44 (two years ago) link

there was a hypothetical on EW a few weeks ago re: how much it would cost for MLB to just make little league free for anyone who wants to play. you want young people to like this very difficult, often boring game u gotta start them young...

ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 23 February 2017 16:08 (two years ago) link

also maybe stop saying it's boring

na (NA), Thursday, 23 February 2017 16:15 (two years ago) link

good idea. I never would've gotten into baseball if I hadn't done little league for a few years.

frogbs, Thursday, 23 February 2017 16:30 (two years ago) link

Seven-pitch-maximum at-bats -- no "staying alive" with two-strike fouls. If you can't put the ball in play and/or reach base in seven pitches or less, sit down. Three strikes of any combination -- you're out. Quicker game, starters go a little deeper. Will never happen, obv.

This is utter madness, the 10-pitch AB is the tensest and best thing in all of baseball

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 23 February 2017 17:29 (two years ago) link

except maybe triples

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 23 February 2017 17:29 (two years ago) link

otm

scattered, smothered, covered, diced and chunked (WilliamC), Thursday, 23 February 2017 18:13 (two years ago) link

take that, carter capps

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C57PENpVAAASp_-.jpg

mookieproof, Thursday, 2 March 2017 16:12 (two years ago) link

"Position players will be prohibited from pitching in games that don’t go into extra innings, unless a team is ahead or behind by at least eight runs." - i mean, fine, but i don't really get why this has to be a rule

na (NA), Thursday, 14 March 2019 15:25 (four months ago) link

I think it has something to do w/ preventing teams from manipulating the new pitcher/position player designations?

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 14 March 2019 15:30 (four months ago) link

Elimination of 40 player roster, too!

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Thursday, 14 March 2019 18:02 (four months ago) link

Interesting changes! I'm really excited to see how the relief pitcher / opener rules pan out (in 2020).

No more waiver trades too! The trade deadline just got even more exciting.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 14 March 2019 18:40 (four months ago) link

The fact that the 40-man Sept. roster expansion doesn't reduce to 28 until 2020 increases Tim Tebow's chances of being a big leaguer.

— JJ Cooper (@jjcoop36) March 14, 2019

mookieproof, Thursday, 14 March 2019 21:06 (four months ago) link

I call this "overmanaging"

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 March 2019 21:54 (four months ago) link

playing Seymour Skinner re position players pitching particularly

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 March 2019 22:21 (four months ago) link

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/mlb-announces-major-rule-changes-for-2019-and-2020/

A commenter asks:

"Not that this will be [a frequent] occurrence but I’m still waiting to see how it will be handled if a team makes two mound visits before a pitcher faces three batters. We would have one rule requiring the pitcher be removed from the game and another stating that he is not allowed to be removed. Is baseball just broken at that point?"

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 March 2019 22:14 (four months ago) link

Oof.

What about a pitcher feigning injury? We know it doesn't count as a mound visit. But will it also allow managers to skirt 3-hitter rule? Will said pitcher be obliged to do a DL stint? So much unnecessary dumbness.

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 15 March 2019 22:32 (four months ago) link

dl il stint

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 15 March 2019 22:32 (four months ago) link

supposedly the three-batter rule will be implemented in the (affiliated) minors this season. i don't think it will come up too much, though -- there aren't really minor league LOOGYs or convoluted platoon matches because the games don't mean anything

mookieproof, Friday, 15 March 2019 22:57 (four months ago) link

RIP pitch clock?

Van Horn Street, Friday, 15 March 2019 23:32 (four months ago) link

yeah :/

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 16 March 2019 00:37 (four months ago) link

seems like overkill

MLB is at Nationals’ camp today workshopping a new communication device for pitchers and catchers. It would allow catchers to type a pitch call (with location) into a watch that is connected to a watch the pitcher is wearing on the mound. An effort to eliminate sign-stealing.

— Jesse Dougherty (@dougherty_jesse) March 18, 2019

mookieproof, Monday, 18 March 2019 14:50 (four months ago) link

ugh

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 18 March 2019 15:01 (four months ago) link

real galaxy brain shit right there

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 March 2019 15:49 (four months ago) link

sign stealing is the best

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 18 March 2019 16:15 (four months ago) link

a good way to speed up the game is to have the catcher text the pitcher on his apple watch before every pitch

na (NA), Monday, 18 March 2019 16:18 (four months ago) link

yeah wtf

k3vin k., Monday, 18 March 2019 17:07 (four months ago) link

a century from now MLB will have "evolved" into 162 home run derbies + a midseason "old school" classic w base running, fielding, etc

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 18 March 2019 18:04 (four months ago) link

classy

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2wy5U4WkAAuvkb.jpg

mookieproof, Thursday, 28 March 2019 18:05 (three months ago) link

the shark has pearly teeth

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 March 2019 18:30 (three months ago) link

apparently the mound will *not* be moved back in the atlantic league this season after all

good news for new long island duck jon niese

mookieproof, Thursday, 11 April 2019 15:54 (three months ago) link

that did seem the most harebrained

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 11 April 2019 17:49 (three months ago) link

three months pass...

thought this was a joke; apparently it is not

Atlantic League announce 4 new rules:
Pitcher required to step off the rubber in order to attempt a pickoff.
1 foul bunt is permitted with 2 strikes before strikeout is called.
Check swing rule made more batter friendly.
Batters may steal 1st on any pitch not caught by catcher.

— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) July 11, 2019

mookieproof, Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:03 (one week ago) link

why WHY

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:33 (one week ago) link

is the foul bunt rule meant to encourage more bunting? seems odd

also, embarrassed to not know for sure, but i thought a pitcher was already required to step off the rubber before a pickoff?

Karl Malone, Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:39 (one week ago) link

If on the rubber, the motion has to be directed entirely toward a single base. i.e. home, first, etc

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:40 (one week ago) link

i think i was confused my the rules in my childhood league - i was always required to step off the rubber. i remember vividly because i got several balks called on me and had no idea wtf was going on

Karl Malone, Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:42 (one week ago) link

i will never pay to see a "stealing first" league game

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 July 2019 19:02 (one week ago) link

i guess some of this might somehow yield more ~action on the bases~

insofar as it does, it would also make the games longer

mookieproof, Thursday, 11 July 2019 19:22 (one week ago) link

Yeah Karl I remember something similar. the MLB rules allow for that classic leftie pick-off move where they lift their right leg up but you don't know yet which way they're going.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 11 July 2019 19:28 (one week ago) link


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