Columbo - S/D

Netflix finally has the full lineup of series episodes up.

columbo = they are ALL THE SAME STORY!! (= "i wd rather confess than put up with this absurd little fellow for the rest of my life")

― mark s (mark s), Monday, September 9, 2002 11:32 AM (11 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

truthbomb!

That one story rules though

The salient thing about Columbo is that the basic premises entertained. It may have been the same story each time, but that's like going into a few dozen houses at Christmas and exclaiming, they are ALL THE SAME TREE!!

Girlfriend and I were watching these on Netflix a lot, loved season 1, kinda burned out though (or maybe just got our rhythm thrown by the extra-long season 2 opener, with John Cassavetes as the orchestra conductor). Should pick it back up though, Falk is just great. Love the vision of class here: the murderers lose to Columbo not because his method is so foolproof but because they're rich and underestimate this working-class schmoe who knows how to play up his schmoe signifiers. Also interesting how so many of the millionaire killers are old-school scions of wealthy families - dissipated dilettantes and socialites, or people after the inheritance of same. Nobody's ever a stockholder or arbitrageur. Columbo's effective because he's able to get access to these people (hard to really picture now) and everything about his mannerisms short-circuits their codes of conduct, leaves them struggling for the correct way to brush him off, which only tips their hands more thoroughly. Feel like that world has kind of disappeared... the singular personifications of wealth vs. the corporate system as a whole.

Gee, I dunno. It's just this theory I had - but you've had a very long day, it can wait. I'm sorry.

Often they don't confess though, they are often found out in the most ludcrous manner, or sometimes its downright nasty. The EP where he frames the murderer's son (he confesses because he is "a strange little fellow" who is unpredictable), for example.

Sat afternoons watching these, having a 20 min nap and still knowing you haven't missed much (you know who did it) as oposed to some other crime show where you'd miss a plot point that might be key in working it out is a pleasure for me. But I also like bcz it is such an anti-crime show. Morse, or Holmes, you get bored by it.

re: class. yeah its an excellent point. He also works much harder than other police officers. A few times where he orders chilli and doesn't eat it => sign of a lower middle class thing "well if I work harder than poeple who are supposedly smarter than me" type guff.

Also note his interactions with culture. One murderer he gets on a "he must be the one - there is no way anyone could like both country and classical music" tip, then where he visits the art gallery to ask questions and mistakes a radiator I think for an art object. He talks about his wife doing watercolours. Art -- one could say -- promotes attentiveness and a heightened awareness. But that isn't on Colombo's radar (unlike Morse where it is part of his make-up), its noise and a sideshow. He gets his killer by working hard. Somtimes he'll pick their version of culture or pretentiousness (learning about wine to trap Donald Pleasance), he shows he is thinking, or he'll pick up an enthusiasm, but with the end goal in mind. You never feel he has interests.

Above all Falk is just great to watch. Feel that a bit more after he passed away.

On the other hand, Columbo's inner life is basically kept a mystery by Columbo himself - the vague references to family and friends which he just made up on the spot. Sometimes he seems to know enough about the murderer's culture stuff to know what would annoy the shit out of them - like playing "Chopsticks" on the concert piano for Cassavetes, or bringing half-dead hardware store plants in to the orchid guy.

And yeah, they're not all confessions - actually I like it best when he really does lay out the case at the end and explain what tipped him off, how he got the guy, etc. The nasty ones are cool too. I love the one where he makes Roddy McDowell think they're trapped in a ski lift with a bomb that's about to go off.

Recently watched The Great Race, which stars Falk alongside Natalie Wood, Jack Lemmon and Tony Curtis, though unfortunately he's relegated to being Lemmon's "duh, okay boss" sidekick. But he wasn't famous yet, and actually Lemmon's talents aren't really exploited either. Always a pleasure to see him doing anything though, really. Growing up on The Princess Bride, I figured he was just some one-off guy that played the grandfather in that, and nothing else!

Falk was pretty much the only good thing in Wings of Desire.

He's allowed to be funny in the Frank Sinatra/Dean Martin vehicle Robin and the 7 Hoods (1964)

http://thecitydesk.net/justonemorething/

Well that's my life down the bin ;-)

http://thecitydesk.net/justonemorething/2014/10/thats-a-lot-of-fruit-salad/

Agreeing with Carolita on the way the divorcee is written up although I think Columbo is really nicer in the final dialogue than what this panel is given credit for - its more like a "shutting yourself off is what you don't do! you're gonna be ok" even if the niece was probably made up.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/30/nyregion/timothy-dowd-detective-who-led-son-of-sam-manhunt-dies-at-99.html

Obit for the detective in charge of Son of Sam case....he basically said all detective shows were bullshit except Columbo which got it exactly right

Podcast is tempting, though the first one I've just listened to (on the Roddy McDowall one) kinda bugged me - little too much unfocused chatter, awkward mix of people who know the show and don't know the show, meaning we don't really get any profound readings or connections made. But I may just be not well-suited to the group podcast format.

Also I loved that episode and they didn't. I mean Roddy's tailoring is so great!

i will CONFESS.... i have not listened to it

In the EP I've just heard it was def unstructured chat, it just happened to have a couple of interesting readings and then some info of the other actors and what else they did.

So yes it might not last. Also doubt I'll get to any of the 90s Columbo. Makes me angry just looking at it (like Simpsons after season 8 or so).

I'm conflicted on 90s Columbo mostly because that's when I started watching them (Rest in Peace, Mrs. Columbo) was my first episode), but obviously they are uneven, to say the least. The Silence of the Lambs wannabe episode was just flat-out wrong.

The ones with Patrick McGoohan as the murderer are especially worth seeking out, he's such a weird + powerful screen presence, he directed at least two so was able to slip in some Prisoner references ("Be seeing you"). Also there's a good one with Oskar Werner.

The digital watch! I love those bits where tech is shown off and it proves to be their undoing (the ward fowler ep with the vhs recorder).

I saw a similar one with Ian Buchanan as the murderer, the "tell-tale heart" was a grotesque gold-plated wrist-pager thing.

That reminds me of the Sherlock Holmes story where the crim describes what he did in a room where Sherls is next door playing the violin, but he's not he's hiding behind the curtain listening, and the violin is actually a "record" playing on a "Gramophone" ..

Modern Technology!

I saw the McGoohan spy episode ('Identity Crisis') pretty recently for the first time – really great, loved the opening third especially – builds with images, moments, rhythm more than usual – Nielsen & McGoohan at the fairground, the dark beach, Columbo's oddly paced chat with the ex-cop at the bar. Lot of silence, it felt like. Enjoyed the plot - not just the luxury/money/pride order that Columbo's gritting up, but phantom world of intrigue. Nice irresolution too.

90s Columbo has its moments, but they're really moments from what I've seen lately (and remember) - Falk and a good murderer will usually make it watchable, however shoddily built and appointed. They're sort of doomed by that comfortable "It's our old friend Detective Columbo" air – we all know what's coming, and want the references to Mrs Columbo etc. Nothing really odd or mesmerising.

where he visits the art gallery to ask questions and mistakes a radiator I think for an art object.

... it's a ventilator. This one was on this morning, Oskar Werner was the murderer, Gena Rowlands was his wife, it was all about video technology. Yesterday we had a McGoohan starring/directing one where Leslie Nielsen was the victim and McGoohan kept shoehorning little Prisoner references into the script. It's TV bliss.

... as discussed by woof in the post immediately preceding mine.

Obligatory

https://i.imgur.com/eYAQSU9.jpg

^This show had four titles in its 13-episode run, which I’d guess is a record

Thought this revive would be Wings of Desire-related.

It's always fun trying to spot when Columbo knows or at least suspects whodunnit. Maybe there isn't always an obvious moment but season 5 episode 5 Now You See Him (currently available on 5 USA) has a real humdinger of one.

Really great episode all round, Jack Cassidy as the stage magician villian doing legit sleight of hand himself, bar one scene with a hand double and a couple of disappointing edits; the final reveal has Columbo one-upping the showman and he does it with glee.

Yeah, that's a good one.

all the jack cassidy ones are classics. robert culp too iirc.

This one was on this morning, Oskar Werner was the murderer, Gena Rowlands was his wife, it was all about video technology. Yesterday we had a McGoohan starring/directing one where Leslie Nielsen was the victim and McGoohan kept shoehorning little Prisoner references into the script. It's TV bliss.

― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Sunday, 17 February 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I loved Gena Rowlands as the suffering wife and daughter - her acting in this is just superb.

The last scene on that McGoohan EP (one of three as the murderer) is also so re-watchable (even for me). Falk was great but its so often the case that he could create some great chemistry with so many co-stars who were there for the once. Seems like everyone was really enjoying themselves for that short period and that really shows up on the McGoohan EPs. Partly the acting chops but the EPs are so goofy script-wise (very little makes sense) and it just encourages that.

OTM on Gena Rowlands. I love how, in the very last scene, Columbo seems to realize that he's just contributed to ruining this woman's life and there's a freeze frame of him looking sad and remorseful. Love the freeze frame endings.

Saddened to report that I watched the final classic Columbo episode. It's not like there are no more lands to conquer; I still have 20+ specials from the revival era to tend to. Still, here's my top 10 Columbos I've seen thus far, listed by title and murderer. pic.twitter.com/kkRoq4XIlt

— Splat! Prigge (@mattprigge) October 7, 2019

Cute touch, giving the eight-year-old boy genius in Jose Ferrer's think tank the name 'Steven Spelberg' (sic).

This scene from a 1990 episode gave me Twin Peaks flashbacks, although it was released a few months before TP's pilot.

https://i.ibb.co/7Jp4wM3/Wolf-Hunter-body.jpg

Good episode too, despite the person playing the villain being a terrible actor.

I see that the villain also played Dick Tremayne! I guess he performs all his parts like that.

There’s a 1990-ish one with Mike from Twin Peaks at college, too

Xpost he’s also a vampire in an all-time terrible episode of quantum leap

Still think that this was the most surprising Columbo scene, for UK viewers at least

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY6r0QELBKY

Maybe it's early in the morning and my rational brain isn't awake yet, but lol.

Apparently, the second season episode "Dagger of the Mind" (probably saw, but can't remember) was sold as a theatrical release in Italy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGQZVRohrJg

A bit silly that one.

That’s probably my least favorite episode of the many I’ve seen. Columbo is irritatingly dumb in it and the travelogue material is boring.

Oh man the breakthrough clue in that one is such a dumb, leaky logical leap. Maybe the only one I've seen that's just a complete groaner.

The depiction of London and the Met Police is LOLz

Awesome, the Ward Fowler episode has just started.

I forgot Timothy Carey is in it!

... and Walter Koenig!

In the past year Columbo has become my comfort watch of choice. Folding clothes, or bored, or too drunk to focus on anything else. Most recently watched Publish or Perish, guesting Mickey Spillane. Love seeing Columbo in a fancy restaurant ordering Chili.

Dagger of the Mind has def been the worst so far.

*in real life

have also been watching this, but only selected episodes, the Columbophile blog a good curator

All of the original run is pretty good, I don’t remember a bum episode.

Pretty sure there isn't one.

"Old Fashioned Murder" is pretty weak. Conceit is that the murderer acts older than her age, but Columbo always had old villains so it isn't obvious.

there's an episode set in a "think tank", back when that didn't have crackpot political connotations, with a kid named steve spielberg as a tribute to their boy genius director.

The one where he goes to Jolly Old England is bad

Oh yeah, that one isn't good.

the columbo-goes-to-a-rave episode is exactly as good as you'd expect

i.e. at least 10 times better than the Morse goes to a rave episode

That's right

also just recently started watching this for the first time. it rules so hard. crazy that every episode is over an hour long

^^It was originally presented as part of a series of weekly TV Mystery Movies, rotating in a shared time slot with similar film-length episodic shows like McMillan & Wife with Rock Hudson and Susan Saint James, and McCloud with Dennis Weaver. That's why the seasons seem so short.