thread for the movie JACK REACHER (cruise, pike, herzog, duvall, dir. christopher mcquarrie)

fuck the police imo

zzz

hey so was the second of these like worth bothering with like at all

still gotta see the second J-Reach, it's streaming and i'm tempted. The first one was the most pleasant mainstream B-movie action surprise I've had in recent memory aside from A Walk Among the Tombstones.

the Zwick factor is a potential red flag though. Love me some Glory but he feels underqualified for the kind of "swift blow to the solar plexus" type filmmaking required in this very brief, and now i'm sure finished, franchise.

yeah thats my feeling exactly

watching three amigos instead

jack reacher 2 was a drag imo three amigos the right choice

Reacher 2 is awful

Cruise has since learned not to do a sequel without McQuarrie. Three Missions in a row, he’s signed on for Live Die Repeat Repeat, and on-set for Maverick 2, not starring James Garner.

McQuarrie is a pretty exceptional action director in a way that's a bit throwback, he's not a sloppy shaky cam guy who draws attention to himself, which is a gift that should be cherished. I also keep forgetting that Jack Reacher was only his second directorial credit, with the MI flicks being his third and fourth. I think a lot of folks maybe gave Bryan Singer the credit for him having a career but it seems obvious it should be the other way around, considering the skill level McQ is operating at vs the extremely boring and pedestrian career of Singer.

McQuarrie also came on MI: Ghost Protocol midway through production to rewrite & 2nd-chair direct

(this all escaped me until this year bcz I avoid Cruise, but after catching up on the last 3 am on the path to standom enough that I’m even considering watching a WWII pic directed by Singer)

I watched Three Amigos recently and to my shock and horror it was not holding up

I have so much Zwick malaise I still havent watched Reacher 2. I have it sitting on my dvr like the telltale heart but i just cant because I ~know~ i’m going to be a) bored or b) annoyed or c) both and I don’t want that.

McQuarrie’s really building a rep as a solid go-to for legit action, I am ~loving~ what he’s done lately.

The Paris car chase in the new MI movie checked so many boxes for me. Helicopter chase got kinda bloated & dumb but somehow the audacity of it still made it fun. And he’s kept this run so watchable! I do kinda miss having a diff director for each, but he’s doing such a good job it’s not a big quibble for me.

Then again, the bar for car chases is so low these days that i’m over the moon if i get to see how fast a car is going ~in relation to other vehicles~ instead of just dramatic music & closeups of tense faces.

There's a scene in reacher 2 where they kinda run slowly across a town square while being chased, and it is awful

https://youtu.be/siVcDJj1qyw
Endless running movie

ugh god i hate it i should just delete it off my dvr shouldnt i

Yes. Robin from How I Met Your Mother is a dreadful actor and it has zero Werner Herzog.

three amigos far better than id feared and robin from himym is an angel placed on this earth u savage

author of reacher novels:

"The idea is that when Reacher walks into a room, you're all a little nervous just for that first minute. And Cruise, for all his talent, didn't have that physicality.

"So what I've decided to do is - there won't be any more movies with Tom Cruise. Instead we're going to take it to Netflix or something like that. Long form streaming television, with a completely new actor.

"And I want all those readers who were upset about Tom Cruise to help me out - participate in choosing the right actor for the TV series. We're rebooting and starting over and we're going to try and find the perfect guy."

danny devito or gtfo

funny that the last Mission Impossible also has a Tom Cruise running scene that feels like a parody...but it's actually good

No idea why they don't just CGI scale up Cruise 150%

xenu forbids it

The idea is that when Reacher walks into a room, you're all a little nervous just for that first minute

So, a Jason Momoa type who can actually act. Has there ever been that person?

always saw christopher eccleston in the role when reading it

obv vince vaughn surprised everyone in cell block 99 but not sure he could pull off reacher (lol reacheround joke)

he couldn't even truly detect

need someone who can imply ex-military with their presence

Momoa’s a bit too UFC & kind of bro-y

Maybe Josh Brolin, Karl Urban, or Michael Cudlitz. Something in that wheelhouse.

I think Brolin would be good

thor hemsworth

i love him but for some reason my gut says no

Reading the books pre-movie, I was picturing the actor playing Dwight in "Haven", a Canadian wrestler.

Urban needs a win now Dredd and Trek are both cancelled. Plus he’s awesome.

I’ve only read the first book but my mind went to John Cena with Ice-T’s voice for some reason.

I like how cruise wasn't intimidating. Just a dude that had trained his body, genetic limitations on the surface, to hurt people. The tim lincecum of pain delivery.

I didn't read the books, though. It still feels like a director or producer issue. Tom was fine in the first movie. Bourne series was able to extend the joy for a couple more without recasting.

I didn’t have any prob with Cruise in the first movie. He compensates for the lack of height with his physicality & intensity. I bought it.

reacher isnt built fyi hes rangy

I've always thought Jack Reacher has a nickname for a serial sex pest ring to it and is very bad fictional name or maybe that's the point? I dunno. The author was on a q+a with fans on book club on bbc WS last week, he's a bit of a transatlantic Swiss Toni sounding wazzock.

i mean the books are absolutely by-the-kit bad fiction

theyre just very very easy, satisfying reads

and p much perfect for translation to tv/film

I listened to an episode of I don’t even own a television (the bad book podcast) that was about one of the books and the excerpts sounded pretty funny

haven’t seen these but want to check out for herzog’s acting at least

Similarities between Reacher and Lee Child[edit]

Numerous critics have pointed out the various similarities between Lee Child and Jack Reacher. Bryan Curtis, writing for Grantland, and Natasha Harding and Caroline Iggulden, in a separate article for The Sun, have brought out the various similarities between Child and Reacher: Child is 6 ft 4 in (1.93 m) tall while his protagonist stands 6 ft 5 in (1.96 m); both writer and creation constantly consume coffee; Like Reacher, Child "lives in cheap pairs of jeans and T-shirts and finds the idea of buying expensive clothes to be irrational"; and that "Jack Reacher's famous physical qualities are based on Child's playground memories as a child".[1][7] Child tends to agree with such observations: "I was huge as a kid and Reacher's stature is me translated as a kid. I enjoyed being bigger and fighting shamelessly. I've done a fair amount of headbutting. It's an awesome manoeuvre."[note 1] Andy Martin notes that "just as Reacher is half-Rimbaud, half-Rambo, Child is both art-for-art's-sake Parnassian and ruthless businessman."[8]

So is he the male el James? Brit hack writing self-insert fanfic set in America?

hard to think of a well-over-6ft guy with a special set of skills running around coldly decimating all in his path, well anyway let's use Tom Cruise I guess.

Jack Reacher books are definitely the shittiest thing I love

Child is 6 ft 4 in (1.93 m) tall while his protagonist stands 6 ft 5 in (1.96 m)

lmao the extra inch is a fucking amazing detail

on the WS show, in a very bad attempt at humblebrag he confessed that he had only been in one physical fight in decades, but mark my words the other guy came off much much worse etc...

hard to think of a well-over-6ft guy with a special set of skills running around coldly decimating all in his path, well anyway let's use Tom Cruise I guess.

lol otm

He should have called the character Jack Reechild

everything about the Reacher character was obviously conceived during his elementary school years of terrorizing small children. too bad about falling short by one inch, but that's what fiction can fix.

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2018/09/lee-child-and-naked-blue-team-up-for-a-jack-reache.html