pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

Yeah, that struck me as weird, too, Jay. I've never had anyone irl talk to me about Gucci or heard anyone irl play his music.

I'm sorry, didn't both Lil Wayne and Young Jeezy exist last year?

haha yeah guys you're gonna have to get used to jordan & deej's gucci mane tunnel vision. although i am actually hearing about him up north more now and radio is actually playing the OJ Da Juiceman single, but still lol.

i don't agree with deej totally - because wayne, jeezy etc yeah - but gucci really was huge last year as long as you were paying attention to the 'right' places. it's hard to quantify in numbers because he didn't release an album or even a single, but no one was more eponymous on mixtapes last year - and more importantly imo no one was more bootlegged (not even wayne) - than gucci. dude has tons of underground 'buzz' in the truest sense of the word, and if he wasn't locked up in jail right now i think he'd be readying a pretty big push for an album.

there were a lot of mixtapes named gucci mane?

let me be clear (agaIn) that i think deej and i don't see eye-to-eye re gucci's stature - deej lives in a big city, knows ppl irl who like rap, etc etc - but we're pretty close. gucci was inescapable this year if you paid attention to non-album southern rap at all. it's how careers are built

this year last year same thing

massive lols, s1ocki

there were, yes

Lil Wayne (red), Gucci Mane (blue)
http://www.google.com/trends/viz?q=%22gucci+mane%22,+%22lil+wayne%22&date=all&geo=all&graph=weekly_img&sort=0&sa=N

No data available

i for one am shocked that the biggest pop star in the world is more trendy on google than gucci mane

jaymc the notion that google search volume is a reliable measure is suspect when lil wayne is getting on katie couric etc

how much music did lil wayne actually release in '08?? the one studio record right? maybe a mixtape or two? id argue that w/in a general rap fanbase gucci was a much bigger rapper last year. wayne was barely rapping on it too

jeezy, you could argue he was bigger but itd be debatable

cursory google searches aren't turning up that many mixtapes named "Gucci Mane" although he does appear to be on a shit-ton

Jeezy, Gucci

http://www.google.com/trends?q=%22gucci+mane%22%2C+%22young+jeezy%22&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0

http://www.google.com/trends/viz?q=%22gucci+mane%22,+%22young+jeezy%22&date=all&geo=all&graph=weekly_img&sort=0&sa=N

obv when i was saying that im making some challops about lil wayne's career have peaked earlier than '08 with most rap fans even if you define that group pretty broadly

would love to know how many of the search queries at the peaks on that graph also contain the words 'megaupload rapidshare sendspace'

cursory google searches aren't turning up that many mixtapes named "Gucci Mane" although he does appear to be on a shit-ton

― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, March 3, 2009 5:36 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

there arent any mixtapes named Gucci Mane

Anyway, "biggest rap artist of the year" to me means "most popular artist who happens to be a rapper" (in which case Wayne being on Katie Couric proves my point exactly) rather than "most ubiquitous rapper within the rap community" or whatever -- I couldn't even tell you anything about the "rap community," so I'll cede to you there.

make up yr mind, dude

(not you, jaymc, J0rdan)

Oh no, I know. :)

lol j0rdan & his critic words

yup

pitchfork is dumb (#4357385639):

Finally, out to everyone asking about my Pitchfork "Month in dubstep and grime" columns. The situation is that they've asked all the specialist writers not to contribute columns for Jan and Feb. I offered to write it for free - trust me, I've not been doing it for the money - but this didn't help. So, we'll see.

try and imagine a month without grime

rather, imagine a world where monthly dubstep and grime coverage is supplanted by "The Month in Being in the Band the Pains of Being Pure at Heart"

OH NO PITCHFORK IS WRITING ABOUT THE MUSIC THAT'S PUT MONEY INTO THEIR POCKETS THROUGH THE LAST TEN FUCKING YEARS, THEY REALLY SHOULD SWITCH TO WRITING ABOUT SOME BULLSHIT NOBODY CARES ABOUT LIKE DUBSTEP SO I CAN POST A SNIFFY MESSAGE TO ILX ABOUT SOME MINOR FACTUAL INNACURACY IN THEIR REVIEW OF A FUCKING RUSKO ITUNES ONLY EP.

The Month In Nebulous 'Nuum Beats

Young, Dumb and Full Of 'Nuum.

the connection between pitchfork and music hype came to yet another embarrassing pick with the new (and mediocre) Wavves record review

are you saying the review or the record is mediocre

ha..no, the record itself.
i understand the logic behind the connection ive mentioned, but arent there any limits?
are pitchfork capable of writing,for example, a bad review for a record that otherwise gets hype+good reviews everywhere else?

i have no idea but right now it's pretty obvious that they are, at an editorial level, going in hard on noisy/lo-fi/vaguely "pop" stuff from both coasts. they're jumping a trend and we're just gonna have to see how it plays out.

it will play out like most trends in music history.

bloodily

if they start going in harder on noisy/lo-fi/vaguely "pop" stuff from one coast than the other, we could be looking at another deadly east/west beef

drummer from no age and avey tare = next pac and big

"Reggae is vile."

xp hahaha yeah but instead of them ending up dead one of them is gonna get butthurt over their blog being hacked or some shit

lol yes sign me up for some delay pedal grunge songs about how animal collective are wack

I saw the video and wanted to post something quick about it in the time I had. I definitely try to work bigger points into posts where possible, all in some vain effort to make Forkcast into something more critical than the usual "here's this video it's AWSOME" blog thing, but as you pointed out there are guys on staff like Tom who would probably have a lot more to say about Gucci Mane than I do, when the time is right. (Oddly enough, Pitchfork has barely written about him.)

big ups, thx for the response

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I want ya'll to play this at funerals in the hood.
Til all this black on black crime stop.
Some say the blind lead the blind.
But in the ghetto you never know,
When it's gon be yo time.
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[Sons of Funk, Mo B. Dick, O'dell]
Sittin at the ghetto thinkin bout
All my homies passed away (uuunnnggghhh!)
Candy painted cadillacs and triple gold
That's how me and my boys rolled
How could it be?
Somebody took my boy from me
My best friend's gone
And I'm so all alone
I really miss my homies
Even though they gone away
I know you in a better place
And I hope to see ya soon someday
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[Master P]
I used to hang with my boy even slang with my boy
Used to bang with my boy, goddam I miss my boy
We started out youngstas in the park throwin birds
In your hearse, damn it's sad to see my nigga in the dirt
The game got me workin, got me perkin, never jerkin
Still blowin dolja fo ya cause I know you up there workin
Ya little baby's cool and ya baby's mama straight
But today's a sad day to see the t-shirt with ya face
From the cradle to the grave, from the streets we used to fall
In the park you liked to ball, put yo name upon the wall
In the projects you's a legend on the street you was a star
But it's sad to see my homeboy ridin in that black car
A lotta soldiers done died, a lotta mothers done cried
You done took yo piece of the pie but you was too young to retire
Why soldiers ride for yo name leave it vain
Some Gs never change, damn they killed you for some change
Smile for my homie Kevin Miller my boy Randall
The ghetto persons that lost they loved ones to these ghetto scandals
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Take a minute to smile for the dead (uuunnnggghhh!)
Smile for the dead (RIP 2Pac, Makaveli)
All my homies who done made it to the crossroads
(Biggie Smalls)
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[Sons, Mo B. O'dell]
How could it be?
Somebody took my boy from me
(It's like I can't believe you gone)
My best friend's gone
(Sometimes I feel like I can't go on)
And I'm so all alone
(Everytime I see something you done left
I really miss my homies
(It just remind me, more and more of you, dawg)
Even though they gone away
(I just keep reminiscin)
I know you in a better place
(Cause I know you alright)
And I hope to see ya soon someday
(And I keep smilin, knowin I'm a see you in the crossroads]
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[Pimp C]
We used to grip on the grain and flip them candy toys
But I'd give up all that bullshit if I could get back my boy
Off in the club smokin weed til 3, hollerin at the hoes
Spendin $4000 on me on gators and clothes
When I turned to rap, he had to chase the game
Nigga told me, "C, leave that dope, cause rappin is yo thang"
I ain't gone even lie, some nights I ride and cry
Wonderin why the real niggas always the ones to die
So I just smoke my weed and try to clear my mind
I wish that I had the power to turn back the hands of time
I wonder if there's a heaven up there for real Gs
For all the niggas in the game that be sellin keys
I keep my memories, try to keep my head stromg
But baby it's hard to be strong, when yo main homie gone
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[Sons, Mo B. O'dell]
Even though you gone away
(Even though you gone, you ain't never gon be forgotten)
I know you in a better place
(Cause as long as I'm here
You gon live through me and other TRU playas)
I really miss my homies
Even though they gone away
I know you in a better place
And I hope to see ya soon someday
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[Silkk]
I'm just sittin here dazed thinkin bout all the times we had
Thinkin the past, some was good and some was bad
Remember Dante?
It was a group of us, just a group of five
Now three dead, one in jail, it seem right now I'm the only one alive
To all my soldiers before me, may ya'll rest in peace
When He took three, took my soul, just the bodies
He at the crossroads guide us out to the rest of me
Wishin I could rewind time like demos
Me and you gettin girls, writin down numbers like memos
Makin million dollar bets, makin all our money stretch like limos
Even though I smile, it's sad, but they say gangstas can't cry
But if I close my eyes and visualize me together
Then I suddenly wanna smile
To see you laid down when it's yo time, when your time was up
You never seen your child, but he's here to remind us
Even though you was wrong, I never could belive that that was true
You was with me forever, you could check my rest in peace tattoos
See me and C and P forever gon be ridin and thuggin
Rest in peace to all the ones that didn't make it
And rest in peace to my brother
We gon miss you
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(I love these fools)
I know you in a better place
(Every time I get on my knees)
And I hope to see ya soon someday
(I pray for you, I'm glad you in a better place
I hope I see ya soon, ain't no more killin
Ain't no more fights, and ain't no more tears)

Not terribly dumb, but...does this really read like a 5.7 review?

wtf?

O_o wtf indeed

yeah that's really weird. i wonder if it's a mistake?

Dumb broads can't score out of ten for shit.