K-pop (2014)

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The words and the video certainly line up to present the girls in that way but I'm not sure if that was the intent of the words, or the way the words would read on their own. I don't think there's anything wrong with an objectifying depiction of girls and butts (/abs or backs or whatever with boybands), and I don't think there's anything wrong with a song about being vulnerable in a relationship, rather it's the way the two come together in "Marionette" that is unsettling. I'm not communicating very well, but I meant in my previous post that I was coming around to the position that there is a questionable element to the MV, although it is not the one for which netizens at large seem to attack it.

Lines like

"Look at the broken me, a doll in pain from being torn by you
Look, I’m still being dragged around by you
My deep scars are irreversible
I’m still in your hands, I’m that that that that that that that that doll"

aren't exactly asking to be used (and neither is the marionette metaphor about not having feelings, but rather about loss of control and having one's heart "dragged around", which the lyric treats as a deeply hurtful thing). FWIW, to me the problem here is the way the words come together with the video - the fact that the girls are objectified although they are singing about the pain of feeling like they are being treated like objects, without the MV doing this as some sort of ironic maneuver.

centurionofprix, Thursday, 13 February 2014 05:01 (ten years ago) link

Like, there's something off about the video but I'm still at a loss as to how to express it as anything aside from tainting the aesthetic/artistic unity of the thing. I had no problem with the video to "Love Song", for example.

(And this is still contingent on one's taking the promo clip and dance as a whole with the music in a very concrete way, which I don't think one necessarily has to do)

centurionofprix, Thursday, 13 February 2014 05:05 (ten years ago) link

I got you. It's sadistic more than unfeeling.

hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 13 February 2014 18:04 (ten years ago) link

Lady cube, female rookie duo making electro, 'Just The Way You Are' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPbWKDeB_ug
'I'm Singing For You' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9iQoke3Bpg

abcfsk, Friday, 14 February 2014 08:35 (ten years ago) link

Forgot about the embedding thing

abcfsk, Friday, 14 February 2014 08:35 (ten years ago) link

I'm digging this

, Saturday, 15 February 2014 03:48 (ten years ago) link

BTOB!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgtaSJ3PSMM

This song/video is perfect for this group.

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 16 February 2014 19:13 (ten years ago) link

Speaking as a sort-of fan: This song is simple but SUPER upbeat, the dorky anti-idolness works so well for them, and I'm still laughing at how they combined the BTOB everyone knows from WOW (retro boyband and out-of-control) with the other side of BTOB (RnB harmonizing in suits like the ballad group they secretly are).

A little iffy on the lyrics (do we need *another* boy group to go abusive boyfriend-y after a breakup?), but I'll live. Illhoon's rap part was gr8, as always.

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 16 February 2014 19:16 (ten years ago) link

Speaking of Brave Brothers, the title track on Sunmi's new mini is turrible but Who Am I isn't half bad.

hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 17 February 2014 04:29 (ten years ago) link

And Park Ji Yong's Beep, which also features piano as well as some hopefully-cleared clips from Soul Train.

hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 23:15 (ten years ago) link

Surely you mean Seoul Train

, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 01:24 (ten years ago) link

If you look verrrrrrry closely, you can tell which clips are new and which are from the 70s television show.

hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 20 February 2014 01:13 (ten years ago) link

Yeah I like how they pull back on the 70s-broadcast-TV filter as the MV goes on, by the end it becomes pretty clear

Also wish I had a 70s-broadcast-TV-filter in my Final Cut Pro

, Thursday, 20 February 2014 01:14 (ten years ago) link

It's really well done... though the Koreans hamming it up for the camera are another clue...

hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 20 February 2014 01:44 (ten years ago) link

I'm very indifferent to this song by SPEED but the performance is off the hook, they're like a completely different group: http://youtu.be/IEfE6UyBDXk. Core Contents Media must be patting themselves on the back right now for hopping on board the "seven rappers in one group" train before it was trendy.

I can't remember if we've covered rookie group Kiss&Cry yet in this thread, but they're also killing it live: http://youtu.be/s4-7Lfjrc58

hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 22 February 2014 02:36 (ten years ago) link

In other music show news, I've been following the live performances of Some (Soyou x Junggigo) diligently because they have so little chemistry it's hilarious... so far they have resorted to singing with their backs to each other, singing from opposite sides of the stage, and taking turns singing and sitting in chairs to try to disguise their anti-chemistry, but no matter what they do it always shines through.

This latest performance isn't any better chemistry-wise but at least Junggigo is v. v. happy with their music show win yesterday (I speculate): http://youtu.be/rhi48uTir90

hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 22 February 2014 02:43 (ten years ago) link

New soshi has leaked and it's actually fairly decent. SM are in damage control mode but it's already spread like wildfire across the net。http://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0aEhimdNRzUwNPF2p2EPqnLf4msBxBSH

dash, Sunday, 23 February 2014 13:46 (ten years ago) link

I'm gonna listen to the soshi album, but in the meantime:

http://youtu.be/PUMt9JwBO04

Second AlphaBAT single, like a more-listless Nilili Mambo. For a group with no obvious talents (apart from that one rapper guy - he's pretty good), their songs have been surprisingly on point.

hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 05:02 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncUiI4-Zf1Q

Interesting single from BTS that shows what happens when your aesthetic sense is more highly developed than your emotional maturity.

hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 08:26 (ten years ago) link

New 2NE1! Had to admit, my expectations weren't exactly sky-high given their past couple of releases but this is HUGE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OODTt2kahI0

Such a good album overall, loving this so much more than SNSD's latest. Very well-sequenced too. Full album here: https://soundcloud.com/wxygshowxyz

Roz, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 20:21 (ten years ago) link

Nice!

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 20:27 (ten years ago) link

"happy" is wonderful

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 21:55 (ten years ago) link

oh lol and here's "scream," just hanging out in the back of the tracklisting

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 21:58 (ten years ago) link

Holy Shit :)))))))))

, Thursday, 27 February 2014 00:48 (ten years ago) link

Deserves its own thread, obviously 2NE1 - Crush

, Thursday, 27 February 2014 01:24 (ten years ago) link

<3!

hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 27 February 2014 03:53 (ten years ago) link

I know it's hard to listen anything that's not 2NE1 right now, but these girls are good!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3OoMbhuiHw

I personally welcome the new era of Aegyo Hip Hop.

hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 28 February 2014 00:23 (ten years ago) link

Also the new TVXQ is supremely enjoyable http://youtu.be/2rU_RZy2XhI

abcfsk, Friday, 28 February 2014 07:53 (ten years ago) link

And BESTie! http://youtu.be/pAHVpMid5_Q

Per Teddy, it's probably 'instant' music... but it's really fun.

hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 1 March 2014 01:28 (ten years ago) link

MR MR return with MR MR (and great timing):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgPeY_Km6h4

What do you guys think of the other MR MR now that the video's out? I appreciated what they were trying to with all the hospital shots and filters but it felt kind of disjointed to me, and the soporific vibe kinda put me to sleep >__>

hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 1 March 2014 03:07 (ten years ago) link

^^ahahahahahahahaha that is some shameless trolling. But um, for real though, I like this one better than the other MR MR (not sorry).

Roz, Saturday, 1 March 2014 03:55 (ten years ago) link

it's nice, right?

hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 1 March 2014 04:29 (ten years ago) link

Unfortunate scandals and all, Mr.Mr are a good rookie group - I've enjoyed more or less everything I've heard from them so far.

Roz, Saturday, 1 March 2014 04:38 (ten years ago) link

Has anyone actually heard the entire Lady Cube album?

I previewed it on iTunes but can't decide if I should get it.

, Saturday, 1 March 2014 04:52 (ten years ago) link

Girls Day Minah entering the duet field: http://youtu.be/2pXZG9aYvcw

Song is nice, very relaxing, Minah has a good voice. Rapper dude is nothing special but not offensive either... an enjoyable diversion on this cloudy Sunday morning.

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 2 March 2014 20:26 (ten years ago) link

Neon Bunny's back! http://youtu.be/Y-muW8zyaNc

abcfsk, Friday, 7 March 2014 08:16 (ten years ago) link

Video's private :( What's the song title?

Here's Gain's 24 Hours:

Also enjoyed B1A4 covering an old g.o.d. song, and CNBlue's Can't Stop (might be my favorite song of theirs).

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 9 March 2014 05:50 (ten years ago) link

Also, Simon D is gonna be co-CEO of Jay Park's AOMG label !!!

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 9 March 2014 05:51 (ten years ago) link

Here's a different upload of Neon Bunny http://youtu.be/BWbK2DO5xKA

So good

abcfsk, Sunday, 9 March 2014 21:14 (ten years ago) link

ty ty!

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 9 March 2014 21:40 (ten years ago) link

Great song & great video for RnB fans from Navi:

http://youtu.be/xTUmlXhETws

The white turtleneck + pencil skirt combo is making me nostalgic for EXID.

hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 11 March 2014 04:04 (ten years ago) link

G-Dragon and CL are on a track from the new Skrillex album (Soundcloud track at link).

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 11 March 2014 17:05 (ten years ago) link

Damn that's nice

, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 01:36 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Med2XipHJJM

abcfsk, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 07:45 (ten years ago) link

Nice debut single from WINGS, big chorus of "i'm cutting my hair short" http://youtu.be/X0_1odmqmCM

abcfsk, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 08:46 (ten years ago) link

The small, dancing Catellena
Without knowing,
I’m falling for you
Chic and proud,
Catellena
Jutti meri oye hoi hoi,
I’m bewitched

Oh my, she’s so great I’ve
fallen for her Even as a girl,
I can see she’s so great. She’s
temperamental but I want to
see her I want to know her,
I want to dance with her

Lalala shake, shake it,
wave your hand
Scream until you
lose your voice
(Jutti Meri Oye Hoi Hoi
Paula Mera Oye Hoi Hoi)
Good job, I’ll give
you 100 points

Softly, softly,
melting, melting
Shivering,
shivering, trembling
I want to
follow her

I don’t like her because she’s
so chic But even as a girl, I can
see she’s so attractive I’m angry
but I want to dance for an hour,
two hours I want to play down
to my very last bone

Lalala shake, shake it,
wave your hand
Scream until you
lose your voice
(Jutti Meri Oye Hoi Hoi
Paula Mera Oye Hoi Hoi)
Not good enough,
have some more strength

The small, dancing Catellena
Without knowing,
I’m falling for you
Chic and proud,
Catellena
Jutti meri oye hoi hoi,
I’m bewitched

The hands that brush by
are warm Is she actually nice
once you get to know her?

My temperamental Catallena
Everyone is falling for her
Chic and proud,
Catellena
Jutti meri oye hoi hoi,
I’m bewitched

Softly, softly,
melting, melting
Shivering,
shivering, trembling
I want to
follow her

hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 13 March 2014 00:09 (ten years ago) link

I was going to just quote one part but man this entir song is soooooooooo suggestive

hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 13 March 2014 00:09 (ten years ago) link

Between Orange Caramel and the Key/Woohyun Delicious project it looks like March is shaping as an awesome month for sexy food metaphors.

hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 13 March 2014 00:16 (ten years ago) link

I'm sorry I brought Toheart into this actually, Key+Woohyun aren't touching the out-and-out suggestiveness of Orange Caramel right now <3 <3 <3

From Ytube:

"The title song "Catallena" is an Indian disco song which also inspired by 'Jutti Meri', a Pakistan's ethnic group Punjab's folk song. With a perfect harmony of funky guitar and the string sound combined with the lyrics about weird but somehow attractive character "Catallena", this addictive song truly shows the unique style of ORANGE CARAMEL."

I was all ready to be "meh" about the song but since it's about cunnilingus I'll give it 100 out of 100 points.

hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 13 March 2014 00:36 (ten years ago) link

Something different: http://youtu.be/7eZ1EpVrTnQ <-- !!!

hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 13 March 2014 00:47 (ten years ago) link


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