Techno/House Bobbins of the past

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he always seems quite affable on his own blog. why does he have to be such a pr*ck here?

sam500, Thursday, 10 July 2008 05:52 (fifteen years ago) link

pipecock, i'm pretty sure it was an escort style cover of the hot chocolate track...

resolved, Thursday, 10 July 2008 07:58 (fifteen years ago) link

The Hot Choc cover is by 40 Thieves and is a 12" on Permanent Vacation.

Raw Patrick, Thursday, 10 July 2008 08:17 (fifteen years ago) link

He always seems quite affable on his own blog. why does he have to be such a pr*ck here? Very true. Now if you could write like you did on that mnml ssgs post and not as you do here, maybe the world could be a happier place? These vitriolic attacks have become so predictable that they're no longer anything more than self parody, I can't even think of times where serious discussion and learning takes place, or is ILM just a vehicle to berate your perceived inferior, or 'fucking idiots', or whatever they are.

So. . . on that note, anyone have erm, an above 128 version of Baby Ford and Eon - Dead Eye lying around. . . Great Track it is.

mehlt, Thursday, 10 July 2008 16:42 (fifteen years ago) link

one quarter gets you unlimited plays.

i definitely have a high-quality digital copy of "dead eye" somewhere. have you ever heard the single baby ford did for force tracks mehlt? it's right up close to "dead eye" and "bad friday" imo. great for doubles.

tricky, Thursday, 10 July 2008 16:54 (fifteen years ago) link

actually beatport has "dead eye" as it was re-released on plus 8 in 2006 so i'm not gonna upload it unless you convince me that you are starving and can't afford $1.49 for a 320kbps mp3.

tricky, Thursday, 10 July 2008 17:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Fair enough.

As for the force tracks 12", the place I usually get my used records has it, and I've been meaning (and have actually had it in my hand ready to take to the cash register more than once) for like half a year. I always seem to find something at the last minute that I prefer, though. Great deep techno, though. I'd get inspired and go buy it in the next few days, but I'm in a different city and won't be back for 5 weeks :S

mehlt, Thursday, 10 July 2008 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link

seems like you are on a different inspiration tip, then. it'll probably still be there when you get back.

tricky, Thursday, 10 July 2008 18:16 (fifteen years ago) link

"also, since you're above the age of 25 (presumably), you don't really know what young people listen to. last night i spent much of the evening listening to Hieroglyphic Being, drinking Bud Light and smoking fatties under the stars with a bunch of 19 year-olds.

-- the table is the table"

i am in the unfortunate position of both having a sister who is 22 and being in school with many 18-22 year olds. i know exactly what young kids listen to, and it is some bullshit. of course when i was that age, almost everyone i knew was listening to bullshit as well.

you can come up with your 19 year olds who listen to jamal moss, but it doesnt change my point: i don't feel the need to have my musical taste justified by some young kid who doesn't know shit. if kids want to be down, there is nothing stopping them. but to try to cater towards them is pretty stupid, and worthless. i would rather people who have opinions that don't change with the weather and who have a good knowledge of music and experience listening to many things be into dance music.

pipecock, Friday, 11 July 2008 00:36 (fifteen years ago) link

It's not 18-22 year olds with bad taste in music, that's just the majority of all people. Do you think they're going to up and start listening to Moodymann or whomever 8 years from now?

mehlt, Friday, 11 July 2008 00:41 (fifteen years ago) link

WHO IS THIS
DOING THIS
SYNTHETIC TYPE OF ALPHA BETA PSYCHEDELIC FUNKING?

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 11 July 2008 00:46 (fifteen years ago) link

i heard a story about how when derrick may went over to britain with strings of life they played it for the 18+ crowd at the late club slot who were already into house and they hated it so then he tried it on the early slot, with 15 year olds and such, and they got down. so who cares?

elan, Friday, 11 July 2008 01:10 (fifteen years ago) link

ps that is based on the assumption that strings of life is good and if you don't like you don't like good music

elan, Friday, 11 July 2008 01:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Picked up a 1997 label comp on Multiplex Records this week for $2! Anyone know anything about this Danish label? Haven't had a chance to listen to it all yet but the Stasis track is pure class. Dan Curtin and Morgan Geist also represented.

http://www.discogs.com/release/94852

sam500, Friday, 11 July 2008 01:38 (fifteen years ago) link

"It's not 18-22 year olds with bad taste in music, that's just the majority of all people. Do you think they're going to up and start listening to Moodymann or whomever 8 years from now?

-- mehlt"

i don't disagree. i just don't see the input and participation of young people as anything that will change house and techno music. if anything, the transient nature of their taste will serve to hype it up temporarily, then leave it for dead when they move on. i don't think that will help things at all, really.

"i heard a story about how when derrick may went over to britain with strings of life they played it for the 18+ crowd at the late club slot who were already into house and they hated it so then he tried it on the early slot, with 15 year olds and such, and they got down. so who cares?

-- elan"

if they want to like good music and be down, that is fine with me. i just think that waiting for some youth movement to inject the scene with energy is a waste of time. i think that an older crowd has been what has kept dance music alive and well in most US cities.

pipecock, Friday, 11 July 2008 02:00 (fifteen years ago) link

BACK ONCE AGAIN WITH THE COCK ROCKING BEATS!!

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 11 July 2008 04:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Good find Sam500.. Mark Broom's mix of Morgan Geist's Pushed on the Pushed Ep is awesome..

mmmm, Friday, 11 July 2008 06:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Thanks mmmm, haven't got to Disc 2 yet but looking forward to hearing that one!

sam500, Friday, 11 July 2008 06:25 (fifteen years ago) link

"i just don't see the input and participation of young people as anything that will change house and techno music."

Their lack of input will certainly change house and techno music!

Raw Patrick, Friday, 11 July 2008 08:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Panthers - Goblin City (Holy Ghost! extended disco dub)

This is good it's got a real nice 54 disco flavour with dead eyed post punk vocals Rush guitar parts. Gets progressively more skinny tie as it goes on, in a really good way. Reminds me a bit of Gray.

I know, right?, Friday, 11 July 2008 09:58 (fifteen years ago) link

That's one I wanna hear.

Raw Patrick, Friday, 11 July 2008 10:01 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.sendspace.com/file/2e5uxg

I know, right?, Friday, 11 July 2008 10:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Thx!

Raw Patrick, Friday, 11 July 2008 10:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Maybe young people aren't old enough to have their own sofas that people can stay on yet

24 Unagi Plaza, Friday, 11 July 2008 10:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Pffft. If kids start listening to house and techno, how is it ever going to fully die off and attain total mythical status for people to make claims of fame to? That being what we all want, anyways.

Music?

mehlt, Friday, 11 July 2008 16:25 (fifteen years ago) link

plastic dreams

tricky, Friday, 11 July 2008 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link

All right, pipecock, you clarified yourself a bit, and I now understand what you're getting at-- waiting or hoping for some sort of youth injection into the movement IS kind of idiotic. At the same time, though, I think that you dismiss a bit too easily-- a lot of kids who are into house and techno might leave it a few years from now, when they get married nd move to some tony condo in Carroll Gardens. But another group of kids-- in addition to most older people who are in the scene-- got into techno and house when they were young and have stayed, or have never left.

Thus, while your argument is a sensible one, simply dismissing all young kids who are into house or techno is not only alienating to them, but is also incredibly short-sighted-- you were once an 18-year-old freaking out to "Detroit Classics and Techno Diamonds," too.

the table is the table, Friday, 11 July 2008 19:57 (fifteen years ago) link

a lot of kids who are into house and techno might leave it a few years from now, when they get married nd move to some tony condo in Carroll Gardens.

And this is WRONG!

deej, Saturday, 12 July 2008 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link

HEY MOONSHIP
+ other fans of tracky chicago acid house ...

http://www.5chicago.com/audio/april2008/kevin-starke-acid-mix-0411.html

^^^highly recommended

deej, Sunday, 13 July 2008 00:48 (fifteen years ago) link

that guy is real cool btw

deej, Sunday, 13 July 2008 00:49 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.5chicago.com/armando/index.html

deej, Sunday, 13 July 2008 00:50 (fifteen years ago) link

love this story about armando
KEVIN STARKE: "There was this one story that I always talk about. I would go on Saturday nights when Armando played at the Warehouse. I would go down there to watch him play and talk to him, just find out information on records. He'd always show me records when I didn't know what it was.

"Saturday night at the Warehouse was primarily a black night. There weren't too many white guys. But I remember this - he looked at me one night, and said, 'Watch this. This is the record I'm going to play and mess these guys up.' And he showed me the record: 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' by Nirvana. I'm thinking, oh, they're never going to dance to this. They're going to get pissed!

"These people lost their minds. People went fucking nuts. That guitar riff - people were dancing all crazy. That's when I kind of looked at it like, okay, never say you can only play this kind of music at this kind of a club. Never say this type of people only like this type of music. You never know. Once you've got the crowd, they're yours."

deej, Sunday, 13 July 2008 00:51 (fifteen years ago) link

an armando project! yes

elan, Sunday, 13 July 2008 00:52 (fifteen years ago) link

i think that 100% of disin u and house music all night long are some of the best house tracks and i just go wild when i hear them.

elan, Sunday, 13 July 2008 01:05 (fifteen years ago) link

"get up and keep your hands in the air to this!" you know it's on when you hear that!

elan, Sunday, 13 July 2008 01:06 (fifteen years ago) link

he died @ 26 :(

deej, Sunday, 13 July 2008 01:38 (fifteen years ago) link

'land of confusion' is where its at

deej, Sunday, 13 July 2008 01:46 (fifteen years ago) link

kstarke is the best kind of store owner, way enthusiastic and personalizes the experience of shopping there for u. I kinda get the impression he can be something of a hustler about the records sometimes but you'll also get pretty good odds of finding some gem for real cheap, i got that 'my people' eddie kendricks record for like 7 bucks there once

deej, Sunday, 13 July 2008 01:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Deej, which store are you talking about?

littlewhiteearbuds, Sunday, 13 July 2008 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.myspace.com/kstarke

deej, Sunday, 13 July 2008 18:11 (fifteen years ago) link

I visited Mr. Starke's store in February (after having purchased some stuff from him on ebay), and I have to say I completely agree that his enthusiasm and the selection were top notch. He seems to be a really genuine guy who loves what he's doing. His store is up there with Mr. Peabody as a required stop when I'm in the area.

matt2, Sunday, 13 July 2008 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link

just gotta say this thread, a few inches of posts aside, is just about my fave thing on ilm right now! keep on keepin on!

andrew m., Sunday, 13 July 2008 22:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I bought Kevin Yost's Night Of A Thousand Drums ep recently.. Might try me some Bongo Madness any tips? The one with Flight Plan is already on the list.

mmmm, Monday, 14 July 2008 20:53 (fifteen years ago) link

been really digging the first Abacus record on Prescription as of recent.

the table is the table, Monday, 14 July 2008 22:32 (fifteen years ago) link

does anyone know, actually, if he's still doing prodcution work?

the table is the table, Monday, 14 July 2008 22:33 (fifteen years ago) link

okay he still is and is still the shit.

the table is the table, Monday, 14 July 2008 22:35 (fifteen years ago) link

found a used copy of "love's arrival" today, listened, and put it back. why didn't it click?

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 00:04 (fifteen years ago) link

album is about as smooth as it gets

deej, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 00:07 (fifteen years ago) link

i like 'where life begins'

deej, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 00:07 (fifteen years ago) link


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