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is it such a big deal that a vast amount of research math is undecipherable to those outside the hyper-specific community when the amount of math written in an accessible way is more than any average person would ever want to read if they lived to be a million years old?

flopson, Sunday, 9 February 2014 23:10 (ten years ago) link

lol which is like, one book of it, if that

j., Sunday, 9 February 2014 23:11 (ten years ago) link

yeah, like given the demand for accessible math expo mathematicians have been more forthcoming w/ exposition than is required

flopson, Sunday, 9 February 2014 23:13 (ten years ago) link

that just shows how concerned they are for our true well-being, rather than with our ignorant conceptions of it

j., Sunday, 9 February 2014 23:16 (ten years ago) link

heh

i know it's written by mathematicians but the whole thing felt kinda "ppl who work at record stores are such snobs!"

flopson, Sunday, 9 February 2014 23:33 (ten years ago) link

you'll feel it, eventually

eric banana (s.clover), Monday, 10 February 2014 00:07 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

for caek:

http://www.nature.com/news/scientific-method-statistical-errors-1.14700#/b2

P values have always had critics. In their almost nine decades of existence, they have been likened to mosquitoes (annoying and impossible to swat away), the emperor's new clothes (fraught with obvious problems that everyone ignores) and the tool of a “sterile intellectual rake” who ravishes science but leaves it with no progeny3. One researcher suggested rechristening the methodology “statistical hypothesis inference testing”3, presumably for the acronym it would yield.

k3vin k., Sunday, 2 March 2014 16:51 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

they're crowdfunding a translation of the grothendieck biography

http://www.gofundme.com/7ldiwo

(i bought vol 1 i think, and skimmed it, and it left off before the math got interesting.)

eric banana (s.clover), Friday, 21 March 2014 23:57 (ten years ago) link

http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=11326

Snide reviews form part of the folklore of Mathematical Reviews. The most famous one is as sublimely succinct as it is damning: “This paper fills a much needed gap in the literature.”

j., Wednesday, 26 March 2014 13:38 (ten years ago) link

I review for Math Reviews (as do others ILXors I expect) and I have yet to make a joke, alas. I just say what the paper does and get on with it. My reviews in philo journals are much more critical though I think I've never gone for a lol in one of those either.

Euler, Thursday, 27 March 2014 00:56 (ten years ago) link

on the philo math tip, attended a v. nice lecture by jean-pierre marquis that discussed notions of abstraction in mathematics, and frege's (i guess?) notion of a criterion of identity.

wat is teh waht (s.clover), Friday, 4 April 2014 05:08 (ten years ago) link

variations on "this paper fill a much-needed gap in the literature" are code for "this is an insignificant paper" in other fields too ime

surfbort memes get played out, totally (k3vin k.), Friday, 4 April 2014 05:11 (ten years ago) link

Remember the relevant bit of verbiage in Lucky Jim?

Tompall Tudor (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 4 April 2014 13:54 (ten years ago) link

"In considering this strangely neglected topic," it began. This what neglected topic ? This strangely what topic? This strangely neglected what?

Tompall Tudor (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 4 April 2014 14:00 (ten years ago) link

now here's a paper title for the ages! http://arxiv.org/abs/1404.0799

wat is teh waht (s.clover), Friday, 4 April 2014 14:15 (ten years ago) link

Madame BovaryNed Raggett, c'est moi.

Tompall Tudor (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 4 April 2014 20:24 (ten years ago) link

Ha, wrong thread.

Tompall Tudor (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 4 April 2014 20:28 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

so wow i now have an intuition for (co)homology, finally! that took forever.

i still can't crunch out calcs with it, but i get what the chain condition is about, how it relates to "the boundary of the boundary is zero" and i'm now familiar with a few different versions of chain/cochain complexes, how short sequences become long ones, and why "exactness" matters. oh and how this relates in some sense to de rahm's theorem!

thus resolves what is probably my longest period between hearing a word and being able to even describe what it means in vague handwavy terms.

wat is teh waht (s.clover), Friday, 13 June 2014 23:43 (nine years ago) link

any actuaries in the building? i once did interesting math...

building a desert (art), Saturday, 14 June 2014 00:48 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

every time i want to find this thread i just search for 'grothendieck'

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/30/us/math-under-common-core-has-even-parents-stumbling.html

Laci Maniscalco, a third-grade teacher in Lafayette, La., who said that sometimes her students cried during the past year when working on problems under the new curriculum, said she had seen genuine progress in their understanding — and in her own, as well.

crying, that's how you know it's working right

j., Monday, 30 June 2014 14:27 (nine years ago) link

seven and eight year olds crying during school? this new phenomenon must be investigated!

the late great, Monday, 30 June 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link

four weeks pass...
two weeks pass...

Interesting article about the Stanford mathematician who just won the Fields Medal:

http://www.simonsfoundation.org/quanta/20140812-a-tenacious-explorer-of-abstract-surfaces/

This thread is impossible to search for, btw.

o. nate, Thursday, 14 August 2014 14:57 (nine years ago) link

So how did you find?

Dedekind Cut Creator (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 14 August 2014 16:33 (nine years ago) link

articles on all of the winners are super interesting.

everybody loves lana del raymond (s.clover), Thursday, 14 August 2014 17:47 (nine years ago) link

I ended up searching within posts for some mathematical terms such as "topology". Kinda inefficient though. xp

o. nate, Thursday, 14 August 2014 18:08 (nine years ago) link

(oddly the R in Rolling has never rendered correctly on my linux laptop, everything else was ok, but the R was just doing the rectangle thing. until tonight that is. it's fine now.)

koogs, Thursday, 14 August 2014 20:04 (nine years ago) link

Rolliag Mallth thrsad

heck (silby), Thursday, 14 August 2014 20:43 (nine years ago) link

for the layperson obv. but i dug this dynamics-explained bit in slate
http://www.slate.com/articles/life/do_the_math/2014/08/maryam_mirzakhani_fields_medal_first_woman_to_win_math_s_biggest_prize_works.html

mattresslessness, Thursday, 14 August 2014 22:32 (nine years ago) link

go stanford, go Iranian Americans!

the late great, Thursday, 14 August 2014 22:43 (nine years ago) link

i was just thinking about if you knew or had met her

mattresslessness, Thursday, 14 August 2014 22:45 (nine years ago) link

wondering

mattresslessness, Thursday, 14 August 2014 22:45 (nine years ago) link

but yeah, it's really cool

mattresslessness, Thursday, 14 August 2014 22:47 (nine years ago) link

unfortunately not ... i was in school of (math and science) education and my wife in nat'l literatures, so i never met anybody in the math dept proper

would love to though!

the late great, Thursday, 14 August 2014 23:36 (nine years ago) link

also note not only first woman winner, but an indian and a brazilian winner, and also the Nevanlinna prize won by an indian. the simons article on that one particularly deep on the maths: http://www.simonsfoundation.org/quanta/20140812-a-grand-vision-for-the-impossible/

also rumors that they may change fields medal qualifications in terms of age a bit, which is exciting too, since the limit + the quadrennial awards mean lots of ppl slip thru the cracks

everybody loves lana del raymond (s.clover), Friday, 15 August 2014 00:19 (nine years ago) link

in other news, i'm scarily close to putting together a first-pass understanding of sheaves (and maybe even stacks)

everybody loves lana del raymond (s.clover), Friday, 15 August 2014 00:21 (nine years ago) link

Pls to xplain to the rest of us.

Dedekind Cut Creator (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 August 2014 00:38 (nine years ago) link

This thread is still impossible to search for. I ended up searching for “homotopy.” It wasn’t the first result!

Allen (etaeoe), Sunday, 24 August 2014 12:51 (nine years ago) link

Why not search for "Dedekind"?

Just saw sheaves mentioned in Love & Math: The Heart of Hidden Reality, by Edward Frenkel.

Visions of Mojo Hannah (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 20:41 (nine years ago) link

lol i was gonna say, i just search for 'grothendieck' and then


j. wrote this on thread ℝolliℵg M∀th Thr∑a∂ on board I Love Everything on Jun 30, 2014

every time i want to find this thread i just search for 'grothendieck'

O_0 i think this is the start of something

j., Wednesday, 27 August 2014 20:47 (nine years ago) link

Has the Grothendieck prime come up on this thread yet?

Visions of Mojo Hannah (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 20:49 (nine years ago) link

What is relation between sheaf and tangent bundle? Aka How do I shot sheaf?

The Wu-Tang Declan (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 31 August 2014 21:50 (nine years ago) link

ack. the general notion of a sheaf i understand only through general abstract nonsense. a tangent bundle involves differential geometry or generalized smooth spaces or something, which gets dangerously close to actual numbers and spaces. i'm of no help there.

everybody loves lana del raymond (s.clover), Monday, 1 September 2014 00:27 (nine years ago) link

You toss it iirc

http://www.heideland-games.de/files/12-06-30_strohsackhochwurf3.jpg

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Monday, 1 September 2014 00:34 (nine years ago) link

pictured: mirror universe in orbit

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Monday, 1 September 2014 01:10 (nine years ago) link

Sterling, you got some phase planing to do!

The Wu-Tang Declan (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 1 September 2014 01:12 (nine years ago) link

Sorry

The Wu-Tang Declan (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 1 September 2014 01:13 (nine years ago) link


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