Transport in London is shit

is it the driver who determines 'this bus terminates here'?

Bus drivers could simplify the difficult aspects of their jobs by not being combative and rude to passengers.

I cannot imagine Holborn station without a working ticket office. It would be chaos, with extra added gormless tourists.

I don't beef with bus drivers yeah coz it's pretty astoundingly difficult. The manoeuvres the 380 drivers must perform on the narrow backstreets of Charlton, especially if two meet each other in opposite directions, often have me in awe

i don't see why whoever decides about early terminations can't make an educated guess based on traffic and err on the side of caution when stating the destination in the first place. it's the surprise factor that's most rage-inducing

It's enraging to get on a bus using the last £1.50 on one's Oyster, only to have it terminate two miles before the indicator initially said it would.

> is it the driver who determines 'this bus terminates here'?

i think it's a shift thing, when they reach the end of their hours they can't carry passengers (but can drive back to the depot in the bus). i once had one driver who terminated the bus ONE STOP after i got on. why didn't he say anything?

Got to Vauxhall btw. Really shd have just gotten the train from CHX, this was a nice idea but slower than walking pace. If it was summer I would have walked home tbf

If buses terminate early u can request a transferable ticket, u do realise this right

Also that shift thing is str8 ludicrous. Finish the route you're on and request overtime pay, a child of 6 could work that out

If buses terminate early u can request a transferable ticket, u do realise this right

this works really well when you have a packed bus asking one driver for transferable tickets, everyone is in a rush and the next bus is packed as well

Bus drivers could simplify the difficult aspects of their jobs by not being combative and rude to passengers.
― baked beings on toast (suzy), Thursday, 6 February 2014 18:15 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

does the rude driver come first or the cunty passengers or both. most drivers whom i encounter are okay.

i think it's a shift thing, when they reach the end of their hours they can't carry passengers (but can drive back to the depot in the bus). i once had one driver who terminated the bus ONE STOP after i got on. why didn't he say anything?

so if they know their hours they must surely be able to make an educated guess as to whether they'll be able to complete their route and if not CHANGE THE INDICATOR so as not to mislead people

or what imago says

If buses terminate early u can request a transferable ticket, u do realise this right

I usually just walk on the bus and if the driver asks I say I paid on the last bus i'm not paying again, they don't usually say anything anyway

If buses terminate early u can request a transferable ticket, u do realise this right

no good if your bus is once every quarter of an hour and it's gale force wind outside (and you can't hop buses as presumably you don't have a travelcard hence the need for a transferable ticket)

xp Of course, but it's a massive PITA because inevitably there's either no bus for ages, or one just behind that's desperate to leave before anyone gets on from the first bus. Generally, I wind up walking home if I'm anywhere between Angel/Old Street/King's Cross/Oxford Circus.

I'm really polite to drivers but there's a culture of rudeness on the 7, so I try to avoid unless absolutely necessary.

Well yeah, point obviously taken lex/ken

O, we just went on a diversion and are out of traffic. Well done driver, maybe

i don't think i have to interact with bus drivers enough to even gauge how polite/rude they are.

the other day the driver opened the front entrance door for me to leave though so he got a++++ will ride again.

it's been a while since the last rude driver/cunt passenger stand off involving SWITCHING OFF THE ENGINE MANOEUVRE

The worst are the disabled cunts who make the driver *lower that fucking ramp* to let them on board. Utter planks

the early terminations are a pain but i quite like that some bus drivers are going rogue and letting passengers off anywhere. or at least i will like it until i myself am terminated by a motorbike winding through traffic.

free tube tomorrow is gonna be the best, i'm gonna ride it even though i've nowhere to go.

i must be biased as the driver is just rude whereas passengers were cunts

omg is it freetube tomorrow??????????? but i already have a travelcard :((((((((

follow follow follow
because ken chu is going to heathrow

Free tube? Evening Standard can still recycle those Commuter Misery headlines as 5000 passengers try to cram into carriages built for 50

it is freetube but it's only between 9.30am and 11.30am and then 6.30pm and 8.30pm.

free overground as well?

i can't find information about this on tfl? need to plan my zone 6 trip

Can we have some corresponding 'COMMUTER JOY' headlines for the freetube?

http://londonist.com/2014/02/tube-revenue-strikes-friday-and-next-week.php

Just reaching Lewisham now, btw :D

That wasn't so bad! 20 minute wait for the 59 but I did get the last seat even if at one point the driver had to tell ppl to get off the bus. Home now, all fine.

imago, do you mind though, please clarify that post you made up there about wheelchair users asking the driver to use the ramp? I don't feel like that is something I can let pass.

I think the early terminations are to regulate the service so you don't have all the buses bunched up together and then none for an hour coming in the other direction. It tends to be when a couple of buses in a row have been delayed / caught in traffic.

Branwell, I was parodying the attitude espoused in this thread of calling people out as cunts or rude or so forth, when really commuting is shit and we're all sincerely attempting to get from A to B and rly if you're gonna hate, hate the game, unless someone's really gone out of their way to be a jerk

Shdnt have to spell it out but there you go

Amazing sociological scenes on the 380 just now - bus just came from central Lewisham, 8 people on board, all black, all sitting at back. Lewisham station, 6 people get on, all white, all presumably commuted from CBD, all (except uh me) go to front, some even stand to avoid sitting towards rear. Then all but me + one other get off in leafy Blackheath :D

No, I was not able to catch a context of "jokes, bruv" from the surrounding posts. Yes, you did have to spell it out, and if you have to spell out a joke, it isn't one.

You really think I'd say that with a straight face? Really?

Yeah, actually I do. And it doesn't matter what "face" you said it with, because it's still a shitty ableist thing to say and how many times do we have to go through the idea that "OMG I WAS JOKING" does not excuse saying inexcusable things?

fucking hell, well how's about this for some ableism

you are such a retard

― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, July 7, 2012 1:34 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

enjoy Interpol

OMG, are you really seriously pulling the "Nakh did it too, that makes me not so bad" fucking bullshit here?

no, I'm telling it to your face. you're being a retard, a ridiculous, awful retard, and I'm frankly offended. I've been frankly offended by how you've addressed me on here for a while, and your domineering, bullying posting-style. accusing me of straight-faced bigotry when I'm making an obviously facetious point about the complaints-culture of entitlement commuters in London seem to fall back on in times of strife, allied to my facetious tone right throughout this thread (you could have read it?) plus the fact I'm not a fucking moron should have given you the hint, but no, you had to pile in with your absolute fucking bullshit again. fuck off and leave me alone.

Okay no.

Wow.

imago's post had nothing to do w "joeks bruv" bants culture though? it was pretty straight pisstaking?

aaaanyway

tell you what's not needed tho, bus drivers doing their "this bus terminates here" nonsense even more than usual

had an interesting morning of that, feeling smug on my half-full 55, which i DILIGENTLY CHECKED said oxford circus on the front. it took about, oh, 1 1/2 hrs to get to old street. then bang, everyone chucked out at clerkenwell. so i walked, along with most of the rest of my bus.

louis, you're an often unfunny turd who flips from embarassing dork to vile spite-ridden sprite in a trice, can you please fucking cut it out or grow up or get some help or something?

i mean you contribute a lot to this board but i'll gladly do without all of it to not have you screaming "you are a retard!" at bb because you're a spoilt brat who thinks it will impress the zing crew you should have long grown out of.

and you're an utterly jejune pillock with a bent for hypocrisy, what of it? i'm not having BB making such appalling accusations. this said, I am henceforth going to avoid her and you as well, so you both have this boon

In the hope of intervening as someone you don't already hate... I don't believe that you would genuinely have said that, but it remains a shitty and ableist thing to have said. Jokes at the expense of the more marginalised which are indistinguishable from slurs except by relying on the position that the speaker couldn't possibly be racist/sexist/ableist are dud dud dud.

friends of yerwan applying the blinkers to everything but the reactions she goads are like idk what the fuck is that even about

point taken if but read sensibly that joke was definitely at the expense of whiny able-bodied ppl who get exasperated with their fellow commuters for no good reason, taken ad absurdum. no specifics regarding disability were luridly dissected; the wording was deliberately generic. it seems that one simply cannot even venture onto such turf, and i accept that doing so is liable to get you in trouble on ilx, cf mordy's links yesterday in 'when did ilx become so boring'

an ableist joke would begin something like 'how many people in wheelchairs does it take to change a lightbulb?' and end with a stony-faced audience mentally checking out. but this post is therefore an anti-ableist joke, despite containing the wording of an ableist joke, because of context my god

yer intentions and spirit as a good lad of the left aren't really in question here but i don't think that line of defence really works since however you soften that kind of quip and no matter how much you intend it to be at the expense of the whiny privileged it stands a high risk of making the other group feel awkward at best, who knows what at worst. maybe indicated by thinking about extending that joke format and thinking about whether it's still the kind of thing you'd drop in polite company, e.g. would you find it cool to make a quip about oppressing people of a racial minority while using some racial slur (noted but only partially accepted that 'disabled cunt' isn't directly a disabled slur) to amusingly take the absurd position of a racist person.

imago, your protestations might hold the slightest bit of water if you had responded to my queries with any kind of graciousness or recognition that what you said was indistinguishable from the slurs you were "parodying". Instead it was accompanied by "how could you possibly think I could be the person to say those kinds of things" followed, a moment later, by insulting me (using more ableist slurs, and these ones not used in jest at all) and then lashing out at Stevie by saying exactly those kinds of things.

How could I possibly think that there's no way you could be the kind of person who would resort to ableist slurs, when your response to being questioned on something you claim to have been a joke, has been to repeat the same things and the same behaviours in earnest this time.

This is a pattern with you. Do an ambiguous thing, get challenged on it, and then freak the fuck out at the person who challenged you using exactly the same problematic behaviour you were just challenged on.

This is childish bullshit, and I'm tired of being the butt of it, from you. If you want people to believe that you're "not like that" then stop acting like that.