So ILE doesn't have a Meredith Kercher/FoxyKnoxy murder thread yet?

substance of TWU's posts otm

Am I seeing things?

http://cdn4.pitchfork.com/albums/20190/homepage_large.49b6343b.jpg

No, you're right

http://www.arenbergschouwburg.be/content/dam/arenberg/Agenda/Seizoen%2013%20-%2014/Nina-Persson.jpg

this is good (UK only i'm afraid)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03wd39x

what's it doing on BBC3 then?

It's a programme for kidz obv.

court says the murder was likely not result of sex game gone wrong, but of an attempt to bully and humiliate meredith kercher, possibly after knox had stolen her rent money

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/29/world/europe/italy-amanda-knox/

"There is nothing against me and nothing very strong against Amanda," Sollecito recently told CNN. "And in my case, I really did nothing wrong, and I don't want to pay for someone else's peculiar behavior."

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/02/26/world/europe/italy-knox-ex-boyfriend/?hpt=bosread

new vid from that night:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/may/06/amanda-knox-alibi-new-cctv-footage-video

The figure in the CCTV video has a very herky jerky walk, while the video of Amanda shows that she has a smooth, purposeful strut.

Andrea Vogt
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Both raffaelle Sollecito and #amandaknox convictions have been fully overturned. Cries of joy in courtroom from sollecito's family
Rome, Lazio

Dude

I had fully signed up to Knox and Sollecito being lying-ass liars about this somehow

Well, they are definitely lying-ass liars, which is what has made this whole thing troubling for me, because that doesn't necessarily make them guilty of murder.

apparently everyone was stunned by the verdict - defense, prosecution, everybody

Yeah i did a 180 on this. I always used to see them as the victims of a botched investigation but there's always been something really off about these two

Bit of evidence linking them to the crime for which someone is already doing time would be nice.

Thankfully not the person she falsely accused for no reason.

She looks like Billy Corgan. Therefore, probably a wrong'un.

they're a bit odd but from what I read of any of this over time there was hardlly any evidence connection them to it. I admit it seems like people outside of the US seem to have a completley different take on this for some reason.

They've spent an enormous amount of money managing the media in the US, which goes some way towards explaining the divide.

No point beating a dead horse at this point, but Salon sums it up nicely:

http://www.salon.com/2015/03/27/amanda_knox_verdict_the_real_evidence_and_why_almost_everything_you_think_you_know_about_the_case_is_wrong/

Are we gonna have a Serial/Jinx treatment of this in years to come?

It may be the intervention of the PR firm coupled with media echo effects and confirmation bias, but I'd love to read a serious investigative piece about this case's public "life". It's one of those cases where there's so much strawmanning, xenophobia, contrary positions with seemingly entirely different sets of basic facts that it makes me feel like every comment section is street-teamed. I guess "welcome to the Internet, me" but there's so much deliberate lying, innocent misinformation and general ugliness involved with this case that it's hard for me to process.

sorry that's so badly written, but hopefully it's a little bit intelligible.

Don't forget Sarcasm, there's a lot of it about and it ends up being accumulated into the 'stated' facts of the case.

Yes - I think sarcasm and detachment probably explain a lot.

That salon article reads like the author stumbled across one of the highly partisan anti-knox blogs (I know there are just as bad pro-knox ones) and then ran wide eyed to the typewriter.

Knox’s DNA was found on the handle of the murder weapon – a knife belonging to Sollecito – and Kercher’s was found on the blade. Whether it’s really Kercher’s DNA is hotly contested by Knox supporters, but contamination was ruled out at the latest appeal. The probability that the DNA on the blade did not come from Kercher was found to be one in 300 million billion.

One in three hundred million billion bajillion! That's incontrovertibly high! That appeal she refers to where contamination was ruled out was the previous appeal, the one that was just overturned.

And reading the comments it seems there were two knives, and the one with Knox/Sollecito DNA couldn't have been the murder weapon because it was too big (I admit I haven't been following close enough to know definitively whether that's the knife they're talking about).

Wow I don't remember dissecting the evidence quite as closely as I did back in 2011, still, nothing has materially changed since then. In other words I'd just like to point out that I was otm in this thread.

ledge you said she was held for 14 hours. she wasn't. you said the DNA evidence on the knife was discredited. it wasn't.

guys

I'M IN HTE ZONE DAMMIT

you said the DNA evidence on the knife was discredited. it wasn't.

What's your source for this? I don't think it's correct, although we can't be sure until the final courts full judgment is released.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3081807/What-s-head-Foxy-Knoxy-Watch-Amanda-Knox-sing-away-woes-karaoke-rendition-Cranberries-song-Zombie-NYC-visit.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r8LG_lCbac

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NueLjUNB-GM

ok now i think she did it

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/amanda-knoxs-boyfriend-is-here-to-party-rock-1786455477

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--qs8fmX3S--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/v0rghjaw95nufmitoj56.jpg

it me

we can't be sure until the final courts full judgment is released.

Did this happen, does anyone care anymore?

oh there are a few websites that will care about this for the next 30 years. i haven't checked them in awhile tho.

i just checked one. latest post - this tuesday. hundreds of words.

http://truejustice.org/ee/

ghouls

fucking hell someone has a lot of time on their hands

Just learned that she hosts a podcast (for Sundance): The Truth About True Crime. I'm gonna check it out.

did we ever get this sorted?

documentarians are divided

guede is out of prison. if you listen you can hear the sound of checkbooks opening all over europe. i don’t think he has anything to lose by talking - he’s already been convicted and served his time. sorry if it’s ghoulish, this is my one true crime guilty pleasure.

i’ve probably read this transcript a million times. guede’s story is super sketch, sounds kinda fake, but at the same time there are so many weird details. the clothes in the washing machine. the broken window (which i know from other sources had shattered OUTWARDS rather than inwards)

https://famous-trials.com/amanda-knox/2635-guede-s-taped-skype-conversation