Rolling Metal Thread 2014

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I didn't know about that but thanks for the tip... I'm promoting a show with The Body soon... I'm worried I may end up terrifyingly depressed after meeting them like the psychologist in Watchmen after he speaks to Rorshach.

Doran, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 17:18 (ten years ago) link

One of the most terse interviews I've ever done.

J3ff T., Tuesday, 4 February 2014 17:25 (ten years ago) link

Couldn't have been worse than the time Glenn Danzig threatened to throw me out the hotel room window.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 17:32 (ten years ago) link

Well, no. They were just very… concise in their answers.

J3ff T., Tuesday, 4 February 2014 17:33 (ten years ago) link

Couldn't have been worse than the time Glenn Danzig threatened to throw me out the hotel room window.

Go on...

NO GODS, NO MUSTARD (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 19:29 (ten years ago) link

It's not exactly on of my finer moments...

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 20:04 (ten years ago) link

(anyway...)

New RONNIE JAMES DIO Covers Album “This Is Your Life”
Celebrates the Life and Legacy of a Legend
Available April 1, 2014 via Rhino

RONNIE JAMES DIO: This Is Your Life Track Listing:

1. “Neon Knights” – Anthrax*
2. “The Last In Line” – Tenacious D*
3. “The Mob Rules” – Adrenaline Mob
4. “Rainbow In The Dark” – Corey Taylor, Roy Mayorga, Satchel, Christian Martucci, Jason Christopher*
5. “Straight Through The Heart” – Halestorm*
6. “Starstruck” – Motörhead with Biff Byford*
7. “The Temple Of The King” – Scorpions*
8. “Egypt (The Chains Are On)” – Doro
9. “Holy Diver” – Killswitch Engage
10. “Catch The Rainbow” – Glenn Hughes, Simon Wright, Craig Goldy, Rudy Sarzo, Scott Warren*
11. “I” – Oni Logan, Jimmy Bain, Rowan Robertson, Brian Tichy*
12. “Man On The Silver Mountain” – Rob Halford, Vinny Appice, Doug Aldrich, Jeff Pilson, Scott Warren*
13. “Ronnie Rising Medley (Featuring A Light In The Black, Tarot Woman, Stargazer, Kill The King)” – Metallica*
14. “This Is Your Life” – Dio

* Previously unreleased

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 6 February 2014 21:16 (ten years ago) link

Some of it is cringe-inducing and some of it reeks of those lousy tribute albums with all-star has-been lineups. Though as much as Metallica has fallen from the mark, the band still does a mean cover jam (see the Mercyful Fate medley) - so I kinda wanna hear that.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 6 February 2014 21:18 (ten years ago) link

I'll definitely check it out on Spotify (or more likely Rdio, since the sound quality is way better and there are no ads), just to hear the Motörhead, Metallica and Halford tracks.

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 6 February 2014 21:30 (ten years ago) link

Almost immediately after typing that post, I got sent a promo stream of the album. Here are my tweeted notes on the four tracks I listened to, in order:

Rob Halford et al., "Man on the Silver Mountain": Decent/plodding arrangement. Vocals are obviously doubled, and Halford DOES NOT SCREAM.
Motörhead/Biff Byford, "Starstruck": I don't like Byford/Saxon, but Phil Campbell shreds the FUCK out of this. Lemmy's bass sound: HUGE.
Corey Taylor et al., "Rainbow in the Dark": NO KEYBOARDS. WTF? But Taylor could totally do classic metal if he wanted (think Armored Saint).
The Metallica medley is NINE MINUTES LONG. Vocals are as rough as you probably expect, but the music's rendered in a pleasingly "Garage Days"-ish fashion.

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 6 February 2014 22:35 (ten years ago) link

who the fuck contacted/greenlit Tenacious D for the Dio tribute & one of his best jams too

fuck that shit

as much as i really, really don't want to play captain save a D, they worked with dio a couple of times, so i'm guessing there might have been some mutual appreciation there. having said that, no i don't want to hear their fucking cover of goddamn legendary genius dio.

an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 6 February 2014 23:32 (ten years ago) link

who the fuck contacted/greenlit Tenacious D for the Dio tribute & one of his best jams too

fuck that shit

Um... Wendy Dio.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 6 February 2014 23:42 (ten years ago) link

and there you go. when i read the tracklist i rmde at that one, but it made sense.

an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 6 February 2014 23:47 (ten years ago) link

the fucking Obliteration disc is awesome as hell.

Lesbian has fucking riffs for days (Neanderthal), Friday, 7 February 2014 00:44 (ten years ago) link

Um... Wendy Dio.

lol well all right but of all the people to get "the last in line." really certain it'll be "hilarious" and "rocking" to hear them emphasize the i in "line" to really draw out the hilarity of metal!! gah.

a month late but

2013: THE YEAR IN BALLOU

in rough order of enjoyment I got out of em, below are the records I could determine that Kurt Ballou either mixed or produced or engineered, basically twiddled some knobs on. I gather he gets stick for sometimes propagating his signature sound a bit too much, arguably at the possible expense of the individuality of the bands he records but he still puts out more than a few badass sounding albums every year; this year's Nails in particular, absolutely smothering, and can't really imagine someone else doing as good a job. And anyway in the below you'll actually find a decent amount of diversity, it's not all strictly on the sludge/crust/hardcore "balloucore" axis; beastmilk, skeletonwitch, immortal bird, ramming speed, toxic holocaust, and my dark horse favorite, the heavy post punk of swedish youngsters stiu nu stiu

Baptists - Bushcraft
Phantom Glue - A War of Light Cones
Nails - Abandon All Life
All Pigs Must Die - Nothing Violates this Nature
Beastmilk - Climax
Meek is Murder - Everything is Awesome, Nothing Matters
Kvelertak - Meir
Nice Hooves - S/T
Stiu Nu Stiu - Ultra Silvam (12")
Immortal Bird - Akrasia EP
Skeletonwitch - Serpents Unleashed
Elizabeth - Insomnia (7")
Ramming Speed - Doomed to Destroy, Destined to Die
Doomriders - Grand Blood
Toxic Holocaust - Chemistry of Consciousness
Modern Life is War - Fever Hunting
Oathbreaker - Eros|Anteros
Castles - Fiction or Truth?
This Routine is Hell - Howl
Sleeping in Gesthemane - When the Landscape is Quiet Again
Generation of Vipers - Howl and Filth

a chance to cross is a chance to score (anonanon), Friday, 7 February 2014 08:19 (ten years ago) link

That's a great set of records, right there.

Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Friday, 7 February 2014 08:23 (ten years ago) link

Jesus Christ that is a hardcore studio tan that guy's getting. I only heard a couple of those records but I really dug the Toxic Holocaust one

the Ramming Speed record is really fun.

Meanwhile, for fans of Balloucore, new Trap Them soon. Yessss!

Simon H., Friday, 7 February 2014 14:03 (ten years ago) link

that actually brings up a question i had for you guys:

interested in metal records that don't sound like shit! like well recorded records...do they exist? (anything w/trigger drums automatically DQ)

is this ballou guy good? (though "signature sound" makes me nervous)

sXe & the banshees (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 February 2014 14:55 (ten years ago) link

Last year's Gris album stood out to me as extremely well recorded.

Siegbran, Friday, 7 February 2014 15:04 (ten years ago) link

Krallice is probably one of the best-recorded metal bands, Colin Marston is a great engineer/producer. Crystal-clear without being too polished, sort of like... ambient aggression or something (I have no idea about recording techniques/terms etc, obviously)

ultros ultros-ghali, Friday, 7 February 2014 15:08 (ten years ago) link

the last Kowloon Walled City was really well recorded, kind of tense, spacious sounding sludge metal verging on post hardcore

a chance to cross is a chance to score (anonanon), Friday, 7 February 2014 15:18 (ten years ago) link

i heard… 5?… of those ballou-produced albums last year

ums, i think he's got a good sound. lots of presence for the bass, loud and realistic drums, separable parts (which i would guess is a challenge in the thrashiest hardcoreiest bits of some of this stuff).

i haven't really noticed any terrible production lately, it just generally seems fine to me, not super noteworthy.

j., Friday, 7 February 2014 15:20 (ten years ago) link

omg i wish my order from Aquarius wasn't still sitting in limbo, i want to hear that Beastmilk!

an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 7 February 2014 15:55 (ten years ago) link

I have also heard 5 of those (Nails, All Pigs Must Die, Beastmilk, Kvelertak, Skeletonwitch). Didn't realize the Beastmilk and Skeletonwitch were his work, so I guess his style isn't as overpowering to the bands as some might assume.

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 7 February 2014 15:56 (ten years ago) link

Nice Hooves - S/T

this record rules btw

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 7 February 2014 15:57 (ten years ago) link

nice hooves:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU4_p0KHpWs

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 7 February 2014 15:59 (ten years ago) link

That band name makes me think of a New Yorker cartoon in which deer construction workers are cat-calling does that walk by the job site.

an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 7 February 2014 16:03 (ten years ago) link

ballou's style is very present--everything is pretty cranked but also well-defined. works well for the uptempo bands he tends to record.

the krallice records sound great. i thought the inter arma record had some really interesting production that suited it well. i do think the production can make or break records in metal more so than in other genres.

call all destroyer, Friday, 7 February 2014 16:04 (ten years ago) link

9. “Holy Diver” – Killswitch Engage

noooooooooooooooooo

Corpsepaint Counterpaint (jjjusten), Friday, 7 February 2014 16:13 (ten years ago) link

they disrespect Dio, and more importantly they disrespect the results of the all-time metal trax poll

Kim Wrong-un (Neil S), Friday, 7 February 2014 16:14 (ten years ago) link

the last Kowloon Walled City was really well recorded, kind of tense, spacious sounding sludge metal verging on post hardcore

― a chance to cross is a chance to score (anonanon), Friday, February 7, 2014 3:18 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they record their own stuff in a member's basement iirc? there are def bigger fans of this band then me, overall, but yeah they do have a good sound

wilful brony (DJ Mencap), Friday, 7 February 2014 16:18 (ten years ago) link

i think they went to a real studio for the most recent one

call all destroyer, Friday, 7 February 2014 16:21 (ten years ago) link

ums - Ballou is Converge's guitarist, he started off producing their records (edit - actually even before that looks like produced among others Until Your Heart Stops which makes a lot of sense) and went on to produce a ton of records, especially for bands that followed in their metallic-hardcore-but-don't-call-it-metalcore wake, bestowing on them a bit of Converge's trademark sound and only deepening their influence.

I mean just look at this list, which is still far from comprehensive:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Ballou#Production_and_recording_discography

I'd describe his production sound, as really vivid, intense, kind of... front-loaded? agree with cad, it's very present, it's like the band is playing 2 inches from your face, but with surprising clarity

a chance to cross is a chance to score (anonanon), Friday, 7 February 2014 16:28 (ten years ago) link

The last Kowloon is gorgeous. Their singer/rhythm guitarist just built his own studio: http://antisleep.com/

EZ Snappin, Friday, 7 February 2014 16:46 (ten years ago) link

hah look at the second post there, quite the convergence

a chance to cross is a chance to score (anonanon), Friday, 7 February 2014 17:00 (ten years ago) link

hey! I totally missed that.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 7 February 2014 17:11 (ten years ago) link

I'm not a huge fan of Ballou as a producer, he's pretty effective in what he does (ie, metalcore) but that brickwalled to the extreme, overcompressed sound is pretty tiring. He's the new Ross Robinson, in that respect.

Siegbran, Friday, 7 February 2014 17:19 (ten years ago) link

I don't like everything Ballou's recorded, and figuratively he's a bit like Steve Albini in that I imagine bands would gravitate to him to get a particular sound. But look back on the varied stuff he's done, even more than a decade ago: Until Your Heart Stops still sounds amazing, and different from Suicide Note, different again from the Jan Michael Vincent Car Crash. It's not all Converge-core.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Friday, 7 February 2014 18:09 (ten years ago) link

and on the same tip, I would not have guessed he produced the Beastmilk record.

Simon H., Friday, 7 February 2014 18:14 (ten years ago) link

(I can't front on Ross Robinson, didn't he produce Burn, Piano Island, Burn?)

Simon H., Friday, 7 February 2014 18:16 (ten years ago) link

was gonna say, I'd be willing to bet he is somewhat keen for more non-metal bands to come knocking, much like Albini circa 1993 probably hankered for more recording jobs for bands who didn't sound like idk Tar or someone

wilful brony (DJ Mencap), Friday, 7 February 2014 18:19 (ten years ago) link

(I can't front on Ross Robinson, didn't he produce Burn, Piano Island, Burn?)

also relationship of command, the first time i heard a record mastered so brutally i thought it was breaking my stereo. think there's a bit more nuance in ballou's stuff but yeah they're pretty brickwalled

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 7 February 2014 18:24 (ten years ago) link

Ballou is the first guy who's managed to really capture Skeletonwitch on record, so respect for that.

J3ff T., Friday, 7 February 2014 19:22 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, the Skeletonwitch album is easily the best sounding record they have ever made.
They also have one of his disciples doing the sound for them on the road.
Even though they were third on the Amon Amarth / Enslaved bill, the live sound was the best I ever heard from them.
And I have seen this band literally dozens of times (they came up in Ohio when I was there - I sold their self-released CDs in my record store for them).
The bass really could be heard, giving even older material a groove, a new dimension I was unaccustomed to hearing.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 7 February 2014 21:57 (ten years ago) link

I just recorded with Scott from Kowloon.. dude knows what he's doing. the new Hellbeard is sounding really good..

SeanWayne, Saturday, 8 February 2014 04:14 (ten years ago) link

(I can't front on Ross Robinson, didn't he produce Burn, Piano Island, Burn?)

Really badly. It's the worst sounding Blood Brothers album, compressed to shit and so exhausting to listen to. Granted I haven't heard the reissue on Epitaph, which might be remastered?

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Saturday, 8 February 2014 10:49 (ten years ago) link


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