Deafheaven

I'm a Deafheaven-fan, and I like plenty of metal. From Sunn O))) to um... Om!

"i think what has been happening is that people who are knowledgeable about the genres deafheaven are attempting to fuse are saying that in their opinion it is not a particularly successful fusion."

lol right.

there's nothing wrong with deafhaven that a reincarnated ronnie james dio couldn't fix

it seems like deafheaven fans want to make it very clear that they aren't actually interested in metal. so never the twain shall meet i guess.

orly?

i'm not totally sure that's what has been happening

he gave you quotes from the thread!

Can you guys help remind me which #team I'm supposed to be on?

The facts:
1. I like metal.
2. I like shoegaze.
3. I don't think Deafheaven is really metal or shoegaze.
4. I like Deafheaven though.

#TEAMBREEZY

i was talking abt folks like treesh and crimsonhex obv, cmon you guys

deafheaven is definitely an alloy of some sort. but one party thinks it's something like steel. the other thinks it's mimetic poly alloy sent back in time to destroy humankind.

like if deafheaven fans are saying "wow i found the one metal record i like" and metal fans are saying "great but it's barely a metal record" i don't see what the problem is.

― call all destroyer, Monday, February 3, 2014 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i was talking abt folks like treesh and crimsonhex obv, cmon you guys

― call all destroyer, Monday, February 3, 2014 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

@call all destroyer, I'm trying to understand why you think you need to have an opinion on people who like Deafheaven to begin with.

I'll echo what jon /via/ chi 2.0 said and say:

1. I'm not a genre-fan. I think I stopped being one in my teens. So, you are right, I'm not a metal fan. But I'm also not a 'rock fan' or a 'jazz fan'. I am a 'music' fan. Revolutionary, isn't it?

2. I don't think Deafheaven are purely black metal. They mix a bunch of different styles like thousands of bands do. If I was forced to reduce them to a style or genre I would probably use BM and post-rock or some type of post-metalish thing, but I'd feel uncomfortable doing so, because I don't talk about music in those terms all that much. If and when I do, I think they should be taken with a grain of salt, as a loose point of reference; a simplification of whatever type of art form, and I would hope the person I'm recommending the music to has enough sensibility to not confine whatever music to specific genre rules.

3. LOL @ "i found the ONE METAL record i like". Please go on. I want to hear more on this.

As far the chocolate and ketchup analogy, the problem is, of course, music is intangible, thus, making it difficult if what you hear is actually chocolate or ketchup.

making it difficult to decipher if what you hear is actually chocolate or ketchup.*

basically i think the dynamics of successful crossover metal acts are interesting in terms of how ppl react to them. but if yr gonna be "what can we really know, it's all just music maaaan" then we prob don't have much to talk about.

because I don't talk about music in those terms all that much

ok, I'll bite - can you define the terms in which you do talk about music?

we need to agree on an orthogonal basis of genre words. then we would never fight because genres would be like pizza toppings.

To me the clear touchstones for Sunbather are not shoegaze so much as sentimental Explosions in the Sky style post rock and M83 type stadium-sized 80s romanticism. In light of that, it's not surprising to see it have so much cross-over appeal; in my opinion it mines that stuff and hybridizes it with metal pretty well.

http://noisey.vice.com/blog/why-are-black-metal-fans-such-elitist-assholes

well, that was terrible

the photo man, the photo!

yeah...

I guess I shouldn't be surprised but that just seemed like snarky, tossed-off linkbait barely arguing a point. sounds like a vice article alright.

so what does the record sound like, guys

I could liveblog it, this time not turning it off at the first EITS dickmove...

can a mod merge the alcest/liturgy threads with this one?

that would be like merging chocolate and ketchup

Liturgy were iirc just so much better than this

threadallurgy

rolling neil halstead metal thread

this thread is worse than hitler

you're way closer there than your flaming lips zing, aero!

well that's because they really do sound like the flaming lips! the shoegaze thing is misdirection really

alcest on the other hand lumps in nicely with 90s shoegaze I think

Where do yall stand on other BM 'travesties' like Shining? I ask because their cheesy nujazz technowank metal just came on my MP3 player and filled my ears with creamy shards of noxious joy

I found them really interesting. In the end I wasn't that into them, but it struck me as an earnest try at trying new things

threadallurgy

― the Norwegians are leaving! (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, February 3, 2014 2:52 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol well done

http://www.metalsucks.net/2014/02/03/prince-harry-loves-big-four/

Metal music was created in England — so it makes sense that there’s finally a fan of the genre in the Royal Family.

Actor Dominic West, who you may know from playing “McNulty” on The Wire, or from his criminally underrated performance as “Jigsaw” in Punisher: War Zone, recently accompanied Prince Harry to the South Pole while working for a charity called Walking with the Wounded. And what did Mr. West learn about His Highness on the trip? He tells The Daily Star:

“Harry has a terrible selection on his iPod. It is the sort of thing soldiers listen to. Hardcore thrash metal.”

The only specific bands West named were all the members of The Big Four, so, alas, Evile don’t get that royal endorsement they’ve been working so hard for all these years.

http://www.metalsucks.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/prince-harry-620x319.jpg

Imagine the disquiet if he had liked Deafheaven or Alcest!

http://www.metalsucks.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/prince-harry-620x319.jpg

i kind of agree with everyone in this thread

esp the opinions that are at odds with each other

today was the first day i realized these guys were called deafHEAVEN not deafHAVEN so fuck this band now

DEAFHEAVIN'

i liked roads to judah a lot
sunbather is awkward tho
i dont care what they look like
i agree that its cover is the most interesting thing about it
drummer really is great
people who rallied behind the mobs of trve dudes hurling endless homophobic slurs at liturgy are human scum regardless of the fact that the band's drummer was literally inaudible live and dude had dumb ideas
lets not do that again

it does bother me that they seem to use the term "shoegazing" instead of "shoegaze"

hahah it doesn't really make for the best action verb, does it

i kind of agree with everyone in this thread

― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Monday, February 3, 2014 4:55 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

esp the opinions that are at odds with each other

― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Monday, February 3, 2014 4:55 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fan of Beefhavin'

lol xp
man that was some fuckin shoegazing black metal, man, i tell you

next thing you know it'll migrate to the past participle and then the real war will begin

shoegoze

When in disgrace with fortune and men's eyes
I all alone beweep my outcast state,
And trouble deaf heaven with my bootless cries,
And look upon myself, and curse my fate,
Wishing me like to one more rich in hope,
Featured like him, like him with friends possessed,
Desiring this man's art, and that man's scope,
With what I most enjoy contented least;
Yet in these thoughts my self almost despising,
Haply I think on thee, and then my state,
Like to the lark at break of day arising
From sullen earth, sings hymns at heaven's gate;
For thy sweet love remembered such wealth brings
That then I scorn to change my state with kings.

people who rallied behind the mobs of trve dudes hurling endless homophobic slurs at liturgy

Stuff I'm Glad I Didn't Even Know About chapter whatever

And trouble deaf heaven with my bootless cries

these guys refuse even to wear boots, how can you be metal and not wear boots

i don't know if i like this album but one thing for sure:

now i know there is a genre called Blackgaze