Rolling techno* albums thread for people who are clearly doing it wrong

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On the other hand, I can't understand the love for the new Donato Dozzy album, seems like it placed quite high in the 2013 albums poll... To me it sounds like very standard droney ambient, like a B-list Fax album or something, I don't see why people find it so exceptional. Especially considering that Voices from the Lake and K really were exceptional and very good; this one feels much more meh to me.

Tuomas, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:34 (four years ago) Permalink

i need to spend more time w/ stellar om source. always enjoyed her stuff in the past though but that was more kind of free-floating astral dolphin music xps

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:36 (four years ago) Permalink

doesn't "bobbins" just mean "rolling thread"

Tim F, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:39 (four years ago) Permalink

I've never come across with anything by her before this; the earlier stuff seems pretty hard to find? Joy One Mile is not dolphin music though, it's quite kicking actually.


Tuomas, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:41 (four years ago) Permalink

i think the dozzy record gets better the more attention you pay to it or else it tends to evaporate before you've taken it in, whereas VFTL sounded great even just as a background thing. didn't vote for dozzy though, wasn't even the best thing on that label last year (cos that was the quicksails record)

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:42 (four years ago) Permalink

(though i think this is a potentially useful distinction anyway, home-listening and album-focused electronic music rather than club-focused; the EOY polls always demonstrate there's interest in this)

lex pretend, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:42 (four years ago) Permalink

doesn't "bobbins" just mean "rolling thread"

you're probably better asking a person who knows what they're talking about tbh

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:43 (four years ago) Permalink

that was directed at branwell - I didn't think it actually "meant" anything in the way implied.

Tim F, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:45 (four years ago) Permalink

bobbins ain't dead anyway house and techno bobbins 2014

lex pretend, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:48 (four years ago) Permalink

Nope, and it was actually Anna F that coined the term "bobbins" because she was at that time writing for (big name UK based dance music magazine) and there were BLOOD ON THE DANCE FLOOR feuds between staff members about what was "Techno" and what was "House" and the differences between tiny micro-genres. And it was a running joke in her house that to avoid the death-match-feuds, to just call it all "dance... bobbins".

I cannot believe that I know stuff about the deep history of obscure ILM terms, but I guess this was just stuff we talked about while DJing.

I, too, would be happy to have an albums-based electronic bobbins thread, because I am LOL old and haven't danced in years.

these birches is awful (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:06 (four years ago) Permalink

Two recent albums I've been enjoying that might fit into this thread:

Steve Moore: Pangea Ultima
Ukkonen: The Ancient Tonalities of...

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:17 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah this is my kind of rolling thread, good call Nick

I get a lot of opportunity to check out new electronic releases but nowhere near enough to go raving or generally do much more than sort of mooch at the edge of the attendant culture

wilful brony (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:18 (four years ago) Permalink

Not a big fan of dividing "home" listening from "club" listening, as the delineation is fluid and arbitrary, but this is also only a personal take...but then similiarly I'm not a fan of microgenre naming either

but heres something which might fit,

cog, Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:50 (four years ago) Permalink

Also, e/tape though its maybe too sleepy even for this thread

cog, Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:53 (four years ago) Permalink

Hello. I'll be lurking in your thread. I may even post if I feel moved to listen to any music which is not either a year old and already discussed on ILX or 30 years old.

(like BB, also LOL too old to dance now and regretting that I spent my dancing-age years feeling that clubs were not welcoming spaces for me, lol indie kids, lol ugly women, etc)

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 30 January 2014 13:21 (four years ago) Permalink

down with this thread (I am, that is)

doglato dozzy (dog latin), Thursday, 30 January 2014 13:38 (four years ago) Permalink

Just been listening to Mika Vainio's new Konstellaatio album in his more ambient/less abrasive zero guise and it is very beautiful electronic head music, if that is what you are angling at in this thread.

xelab, Thursday, 30 January 2014 14:12 (four years ago) Permalink

Yeah 99% of the dance music I hear now is "home listening" even it's totally banging and dancefloor-centric (and there are whole albums of that sort of stuff as well).

Bobbins will never die.

Matt DC, Thursday, 30 January 2014 14:26 (four years ago) Permalink

Was just listening to Konstalaatio today - very nice.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 31 January 2014 00:57 (four years ago) Permalink

New NHK'Koyxen album is out at last, which I've been looking forward to for a while. It's on Pan again, which is maybe better known for electronic art music, but the last one was great hall-of-mirrors machine music with subtlety mind-disordering rhythmic effects and a lot of people's favourite on that label along with the Lee Gamble one.

keiji cretins (NickB), Friday, 31 January 2014 11:35 (four years ago) Permalink

^ so pretty!

keiji cretins (NickB), Friday, 31 January 2014 11:38 (four years ago) Permalink

Steve Moore: Pangea Ultima

dunno if it's just me but i find this his weakest release thus far. still good, but a bit watertready

föllakzoidberg (electricsound), Friday, 31 January 2014 11:39 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah I didn't find much call to give it a second listen

the first cologne based on a sea-captain based celebrity (seandalai), Friday, 31 January 2014 16:01 (four years ago) Permalink

really loving this new hauschka album - - fans of nils frahm would be into it i think

lex pretend, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:04 (four years ago) Permalink

i'm really into pangaea ultima

the late great, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:06 (four years ago) Permalink

i keep being impressed / doing double takes whenever tracks from peter van hoesen's live performance come up on shuffle. it's still p microproduced but has a looser vibe i seem to be keying in on.

i feel like i sample from a lot of recent techno that just doesn't grab me, maybe i'm only paying half attention, seems like the production is samey in an immaculate way but there isn't any fire and it's all airless and boring. one example is the conforce album, just zzzzz imo

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:09 (four years ago) Permalink

oops i think it's life performance

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:12 (four years ago) Permalink

also want to rep for anthony parasole's label the corner out of new york, last two releases are awesome (parasole and phil moffa - pressure and tom diccico - no sympathy)

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:15 (four years ago) Permalink

though those aren't albums, ayy

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:16 (four years ago) Permalink

i don't post to ilm about a big chunk of the new music i listen to, because it falls between the cracks of the rap/techno/etc threads. lots of pretty post-beat scene electronic music that sounds best on headphones but could work in a club in the right context, maybe.

festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 31 January 2014 16:27 (four years ago) Permalink

Have enjoyed Hauschka in the past Lex (think it was Foreign Landscapes that I got into, that was very much modern chamber ensemble classical stuff though). Bit of a wait till mere mortals get to hear the new one - not out until mid-March by the looks of it.

Was giving the Mika Vainio a whirl a bit earlier. Sounds really well done but it was all a bit too austere for me. Have never quite got to grips with Pansonic either tbh so it probably wasn't meant to be.

keiji cretins (NickB), Friday, 31 January 2014 17:57 (four years ago) Permalink

vainio never clicked with me though on paper it sounds like exactly the kind of thing i'd dig.

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 21:28 (four years ago) Permalink

I noticed that a third volume of Thomas P. Heckmann's (aka Age, Drax, Skydiver, etc) The Lost Tales was recently released, you can play the whole album via the link. (It's not on Fax like the previous two, but on some new American label, which was apparently set up as a legacy label to Fax, since it folded with Pete Namlook's death.) Anyway, like the previous two, it collects previously unreleased material by Heckmann, some of which dates back to to the early 90s, so there's loads of trancey analogue sounds and cosmic techno goodness... And more synth solos than on his previous albums! Obviously this is very old school stuff, but since cosmic beats and Fax have always been my thing, I love it! "Berlin to Dawn" and "Ode to a Friend" especially are awesome synth freakouts.

Tuomas, Friday, 31 January 2014 23:36 (four years ago) Permalink

this is the perfect thread to post about:

severence - hidden ceilings
sven weisemann - inner motions
the smoke clears - listen

each of which were on my eoy ballot, and i associate them with each other. haven't really seen anyone discuss them anywhere, probably b/c they're very humble albums, but they linger in that edge of sleep space which i really love. i don't think listening to a single track really does any of them justice because they all take time to pull you in, but all three are pretty much perfect.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Saturday, 1 February 2014 00:09 (four years ago) Permalink

Fuck me, that Weisemann album is a lot better than I remembered it as this year.

xelab, Saturday, 1 February 2014 00:56 (four years ago) Permalink

I don't know all of Steve Moore's other stuff so I like Pangea Ultima just fine--and happy to dig into earlier stuff if it's better. As of now the track "Logotronics" is doing it for me. (First song here:

I've played the Vanio album a few times now but it literally disappears midway through - so minimal it can't seem to compete with the noises of the world around me.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, 1 February 2014 04:29 (four years ago) Permalink

charles manier 2xlp from last year is killer.

Matt P, Saturday, 1 February 2014 06:34 (four years ago) Permalink

Steve Moore's other stuff

get thee to "the henge" immediately

föllakzoidberg (electricsound), Saturday, 1 February 2014 11:34 (four years ago) Permalink

i don't post to ilm about a big chunk of the new music i listen to, because it falls between the cracks of the rap/techno/etc threads. lots of pretty post-beat scene electronic music that sounds best on headphones but could work in a club in the right context, maybe.

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cristalnacht (lukas), Saturday, 1 February 2014 22:00 (four years ago) Permalink

Could A New Line (Related) fit this thread?

Ex-Hood bloke does Chain Reaction from the wrong side of the Pennines.

djh, Saturday, 1 February 2014 23:23 (four years ago) Permalink

Weirdly ... ordered the Hauschka album (although not out until March) from City Slang (Early ordering due to a new commitment to ordering from "source" or non-Amazon and also for a second disc).

djh, Saturday, 1 February 2014 23:25 (four years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Really enjoying the new Karen Gwyer EP.

Also, the new White Rainbow, "Thru.u" is pretty terrific. He used to be an Emeralds-like drone thing on Kranky but has spent the last four years going way over to the other end of the spectrum - lots of beats, electro influence, etc. He's been experimenting via his Bandcamp page with a ton of releases, but the new album is his first "official" offering in a long time. It's great.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 21 February 2014 21:58 (four years ago) Permalink

So, I got the new Thomas P. Heckmann album I mentioned upthread in mail, and it didn't disappoint. Lovely FAX style trance/ambient/techno, with a dedication to Pete Namlook:

Tuomas, Friday, 21 February 2014 22:11 (four years ago) Permalink

yeh heckmann is boss, there's a great youtube video tour of his studio

Crackle Box, Friday, 21 February 2014 22:28 (four years ago) Permalink

I guess you mean this one? Hadn't seen it before, holy shit at the stuff in his studio!

Tuomas, Friday, 21 February 2014 22:35 (four years ago) Permalink

the new secret circuit, torn hawk and willie burns collaborative release is great ("from the legal pad of circuit, burns and hawk"). i guess it's more of an EP than anything, and it's not purist techno by any means (torn hawk reminds me of early ducktails more than anything), but another in a line of great releases from fellow ilxor speculator/willie burns/black deer

hug niceman (psychgawsple), Friday, 21 February 2014 23:42 (four years ago) Permalink

So behind on my listening, need to hear a bunch of these things. The White Rainbow sounds interesting, I loved that guy's stuff in the past so it'll be good to hear where he's at now. I think the new Patten is really good! Not as overwhelmingly chaotic and cluttered as his previous one, but still lots of interesting juxtaposed sounds and textures.

night boat to mega therion (NickB), Monday, 24 February 2014 13:44 (four years ago) Permalink

xp more than anything more than anything blah

part of me wants to like the new white rainbow (i'm sure it's good!) but another part of me thinks forkner is sort of a dick who wants to ride the avant-techno bandwagon while having little interest in - and based on coversations, even some condescension towards - house/techno culture. like none of this matters even slightly for home listening purposes but in the context of the portland scene where he came from he's pretty late to this game and has done very little to play shows/throw parties/contribute to what's going on now

hug niceman (psychgawsple), Monday, 24 February 2014 19:35 (four years ago) Permalink

I'm about as removed from either Portland or techno scenes as possible but I loved Forkner's album as [[[vvrssnn]]] (yes, wanky name) back in 2003 and that had some electronic squiggles and beats - not enough to qualify for this thread but here's a couple of youtubes of the more electronic tracks in case anyone is curious: / - so I am interested to hear the new one

def not saying he should get a free pass because of that or anything, but it's prob still my favourite thing he's done, so I thought I'd mention it

anyway the last secret circuit was p. great, so a collab w/ speculator and torn hawk has certainly piqued my interest too

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 24 February 2014 19:58 (four years ago) Permalink

mh, Thursday, 29 March 2018 21:38 (eight months ago) Permalink

aahhh i'm super confused

you said his show last week, those are all from 2017!

the late great, Thursday, 29 March 2018 21:42 (eight months ago) Permalink

no I said I was listening to the show last week!

as in, a bunch of episodes of the show. sorry for the ambiguity

mh, Thursday, 29 March 2018 21:48 (eight months ago) Permalink

although I do like the idea of getting pretty deep on a single episode

mh, Thursday, 29 March 2018 21:53 (eight months ago) Permalink

oh haha sorry me dumm

the late great, Thursday, 29 March 2018 22:15 (eight months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

item: i back-to-backed the new skee mask album with last year's shed album and while i enjoyed the skee mask and the young dude energy behind it, the shed album is clearly on another level.

map, Sunday, 1 July 2018 21:35 (five months ago) Permalink

Shed LPs are a perfect example of how to do full length tech, especially the first two

brimstead, Sunday, 1 July 2018 23:16 (five months ago) Permalink

I found the new Skee Mask a bit cold and clinical. Give me Shed any day.

millmeister, Monday, 2 July 2018 12:18 (five months ago) Permalink

feel like people slept on that shed record "too homogenous" yes but everything on it rips. skee mask is comfort food to me, the drums sound amazing but it's also sorta like just sports videogame music or something, shed has ~~mystery~~ about the proceedings imo

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Monday, 2 July 2018 15:56 (five months ago) Permalink

yeah I posted in the "diss hyped releases" about that Skee Mask album, bewildering critical praise

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 09:28 (five months ago) Permalink

Shed is just a highly exceptional producer, the way he makes the bass rumble in the mix is just awesome.

brimstead, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 15:16 (five months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

I don't know how much longevity value it will have, but for now I'm quite digging that Pariah album.

calzino, Saturday, 4 August 2018 10:15 (four months ago) Permalink

Anyone who has not yet heard the atrociously titled 'Steal Chickens From Men And The Future From God' by the Swedish duo Shakarchi & Straneus should do so while the weather's still this good.

DJ Koze has been repping hard for it and you can tell why, although it's a lot better than his album.

Matt DC, Saturday, 4 August 2018 11:32 (four months ago) Permalink

i have been listening a lot of octo octa lately and i think she is a wonderful album artist. the one from last year is especially good

marcos, Friday, 10 August 2018 15:37 (four months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

what's the newer thread for stuff like this? Anyway here's a Young Marco mix with lots of the Dream House stuff he has compiled lately

Neil S, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 08:41 (three months ago) Permalink

anyway if you like your contemporary kosmische music i can give no higher recommendation than to the new vakula on leleka, "metaphors"

That is great and seemingly unavailable. I mean it's not unavailable - it's £70 on discogs but...

Ned Trifle X, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 15:40 (three months ago) Permalink

yeah i grabbed mine as soon as it was on hardwax, he sometimes represses his bandura releases but rarely see leleka represses ...

the late great, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 17:50 (three months ago) Permalink

I posted this on the rolling house and techno thread, but this is maybe a better place for it. The new Djrum album is very good, imo, for a crossover between bass and techno. I've listened to it a few times on Spotify so far (the 2LP is sold out a lot of places at the moment, it seems, but it's on R&S so should be repressed soon?) and it's terrific and a great, fully realized album.

Federico Boswarlos, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 19:28 (three months ago) Permalink

The Vakula is on Spotify if that’s not too sacrilegious a thing to say

the article don, Thursday, 6 September 2018 20:06 (three months ago) Permalink

Oops actually it’s his new one, which is great incidentally

the article don, Thursday, 6 September 2018 20:07 (three months ago) Permalink

if you mean arcturus that one was available elsewhere a year or 2 ago but it rules and is nice to have it on spot

ciderpress, Friday, 7 September 2018 20:31 (three months ago) Permalink

I am enjoying the new Ancient Methods album

silverfish, Friday, 21 September 2018 17:31 (two months ago) Permalink

The Ame album is a lot better than its cracked up to be.

Matt DC, Saturday, 22 September 2018 07:56 (two months ago) Permalink

Really miss the lush style of the Lord of the Isles LP, anything like that people want to recommend?

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Sunday, 30 September 2018 22:33 (two months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

dj richard's dies irae xerox is outstanding

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 27 October 2018 22:56 (one month ago) Permalink

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 27 October 2018 22:56 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah it's a good un that

calzino, Saturday, 27 October 2018 22:58 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah, I've been listening to the dj richard album a lot lately.

silverfish, Monday, 29 October 2018 14:32 (one month ago) Permalink

I bought this album by Junes, it is "well vibey, mate" according to the local paper. I don't know if its a good fit for the lads that are doing it wrong thread but what is the worst that can happen?

saer, Monday, 29 October 2018 15:37 (one month ago) Permalink

that is lovely

niels, Monday, 29 October 2018 16:09 (one month ago) Permalink

the new skee mask album

oh this is quite nice, quite nice

j., Tuesday, 30 October 2018 02:25 (one month ago) Permalink

love the skee mask album!

Dan S, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 03:30 (one month ago) Permalink

another track from the Junes record, this one was a reluctant bench warmer at first, but since it got subbed on its been chipping in with assists from midfield with a rough hewn yet nonchalant air of a new signing from non-league

saer, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 07:12 (one month ago) Permalink

really like both of those Junes tracks

Dan S, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 06:05 (one month ago) Permalink

agree with the skee mask and dj richard praise!

bruce's sonder somatic is really doing it for me today as well

petey v, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 19:14 (one month ago) Permalink

Totally, Bruce album rules. But man am I having a hard time keeping all these “weird beats” threads straight ... so apologies if this has been posted elsewhere but the airmax 97 joint is awesome

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 19:30 (one month ago) Permalink

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