Rolling techno* albums thread for people who are clearly doing it wrong

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On the other hand, I can't understand the love for the new Donato Dozzy album, seems like it placed quite high in the 2013 albums poll... To me it sounds like very standard droney ambient, like a B-list Fax album or something, I don't see why people find it so exceptional. Especially considering that Voices from the Lake and K really were exceptional and very good; this one feels much more meh to me.

Tuomas, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:34 (four years ago) Permalink

i need to spend more time w/ stellar om source. always enjoyed her stuff in the past though but that was more kind of free-floating astral dolphin music xps

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:36 (four years ago) Permalink

doesn't "bobbins" just mean "rolling thread"

Tim F, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:39 (four years ago) Permalink

I've never come across with anything by her before this; the earlier stuff seems pretty hard to find? Joy One Mile is not dolphin music though, it's quite kicking actually.

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Tuomas, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:41 (four years ago) Permalink

i think the dozzy record gets better the more attention you pay to it or else it tends to evaporate before you've taken it in, whereas VFTL sounded great even just as a background thing. didn't vote for dozzy though, wasn't even the best thing on that label last year (cos that was the quicksails record)

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:42 (four years ago) Permalink

(though i think this is a potentially useful distinction anyway, home-listening and album-focused electronic music rather than club-focused; the EOY polls always demonstrate there's interest in this)

lex pretend, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:42 (four years ago) Permalink

doesn't "bobbins" just mean "rolling thread"

you're probably better asking a person who knows what they're talking about tbh

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:43 (four years ago) Permalink

that was directed at branwell - I didn't think it actually "meant" anything in the way implied.

Tim F, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:45 (four years ago) Permalink

bobbins ain't dead anyway house and techno bobbins 2014

lex pretend, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:48 (four years ago) Permalink

Nope, and it was actually Anna F that coined the term "bobbins" because she was at that time writing for (big name UK based dance music magazine) and there were BLOOD ON THE DANCE FLOOR feuds between staff members about what was "Techno" and what was "House" and the differences between tiny micro-genres. And it was a running joke in her house that to avoid the death-match-feuds, to just call it all "dance... bobbins".

I cannot believe that I know stuff about the deep history of obscure ILM terms, but I guess this was just stuff we talked about while DJing.

I, too, would be happy to have an albums-based electronic bobbins thread, because I am LOL old and haven't danced in years.

these birches is awful (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:06 (four years ago) Permalink

Two recent albums I've been enjoying that might fit into this thread:

Steve Moore: Pangea Ultima
Ukkonen: The Ancient Tonalities of...

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:17 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah this is my kind of rolling thread, good call Nick

I get a lot of opportunity to check out new electronic releases but nowhere near enough to go raving or generally do much more than sort of mooch at the edge of the attendant culture

wilful brony (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:18 (four years ago) Permalink

Not a big fan of dividing "home" listening from "club" listening, as the delineation is fluid and arbitrary, but this is also only a personal take...but then similiarly I'm not a fan of microgenre naming either

but heres something which might fit,

https://soundcloud.com/richardzepezauer/bulldozers-from-nsyde-part-2

cog, Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:50 (four years ago) Permalink

Also, e/tape https://soundcloud.com/etape/t-12 though its maybe too sleepy even for this thread

cog, Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:53 (four years ago) Permalink

Hello. I'll be lurking in your thread. I may even post if I feel moved to listen to any music which is not either a year old and already discussed on ILX or 30 years old.

(like BB, also LOL too old to dance now and regretting that I spent my dancing-age years feeling that clubs were not welcoming spaces for me, lol indie kids, lol ugly women, etc)

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 30 January 2014 13:21 (four years ago) Permalink

down with this thread (I am, that is)

doglato dozzy (dog latin), Thursday, 30 January 2014 13:38 (four years ago) Permalink

Just been listening to Mika Vainio's new Konstellaatio album in his more ambient/less abrasive zero guise and it is very beautiful electronic head music, if that is what you are angling at in this thread.

xelab, Thursday, 30 January 2014 14:12 (four years ago) Permalink

Yeah 99% of the dance music I hear now is "home listening" even it's totally banging and dancefloor-centric (and there are whole albums of that sort of stuff as well).

Bobbins will never die.

Matt DC, Thursday, 30 January 2014 14:26 (four years ago) Permalink

Was just listening to Konstalaatio today - very nice.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 31 January 2014 00:57 (four years ago) Permalink

New NHK'Koyxen album is out at last, which I've been looking forward to for a while. It's on Pan again, which is maybe better known for electronic art music, but the last one was great hall-of-mirrors machine music with subtlety mind-disordering rhythmic effects and a lot of people's favourite on that label along with the Lee Gamble one.

keiji cretins (NickB), Friday, 31 January 2014 11:35 (four years ago) Permalink

http://d1wtzzt4oxg683.cloudfront.net/images/covers/160/144660.jpg

^ so pretty!

keiji cretins (NickB), Friday, 31 January 2014 11:38 (four years ago) Permalink

Steve Moore: Pangea Ultima

dunno if it's just me but i find this his weakest release thus far. still good, but a bit watertready

föllakzoidberg (electricsound), Friday, 31 January 2014 11:39 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah I didn't find much call to give it a second listen

the first cologne based on a sea-captain based celebrity (seandalai), Friday, 31 January 2014 16:01 (four years ago) Permalink

really loving this new hauschka album - http://www.cityslang.com/releases/64220/abandoned-city/ - fans of nils frahm would be into it i think

lex pretend, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:04 (four years ago) Permalink

i'm really into pangaea ultima

the late great, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:06 (four years ago) Permalink

i keep being impressed / doing double takes whenever tracks from peter van hoesen's live performance come up on shuffle. it's still p microproduced but has a looser vibe i seem to be keying in on.

i feel like i sample from a lot of recent techno that just doesn't grab me, maybe i'm only paying half attention, seems like the production is samey in an immaculate way but there isn't any fire and it's all airless and boring. one example is the conforce album, just zzzzz imo

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:09 (four years ago) Permalink

oops i think it's life performance

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:12 (four years ago) Permalink

also want to rep for anthony parasole's label the corner out of new york, last two releases are awesome (parasole and phil moffa - pressure and tom diccico - no sympathy)

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:15 (four years ago) Permalink

though those aren't albums, ayy

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:16 (four years ago) Permalink

i don't post to ilm about a big chunk of the new music i listen to, because it falls between the cracks of the rap/techno/etc threads. lots of pretty post-beat scene electronic music that sounds best on headphones but could work in a club in the right context, maybe.

festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 31 January 2014 16:27 (four years ago) Permalink

Have enjoyed Hauschka in the past Lex (think it was Foreign Landscapes that I got into, that was very much modern chamber ensemble classical stuff though). Bit of a wait till mere mortals get to hear the new one - not out until mid-March by the looks of it.

Was giving the Mika Vainio a whirl a bit earlier. Sounds really well done but it was all a bit too austere for me. Have never quite got to grips with Pansonic either tbh so it probably wasn't meant to be.

keiji cretins (NickB), Friday, 31 January 2014 17:57 (four years ago) Permalink

vainio never clicked with me though on paper it sounds like exactly the kind of thing i'd dig.

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 21:28 (four years ago) Permalink

I noticed that a third volume of Thomas P. Heckmann's (aka Age, Drax, Skydiver, etc) The Lost Tales was recently released, you can play the whole album via the link. (It's not on Fax like the previous two, but on some new American label, which was apparently set up as a legacy label to Fax, since it folded with Pete Namlook's death.) Anyway, like the previous two, it collects previously unreleased material by Heckmann, some of which dates back to to the early 90s, so there's loads of trancey analogue sounds and cosmic techno goodness... And more synth solos than on his previous albums! Obviously this is very old school stuff, but since cosmic beats and Fax have always been my thing, I love it! "Berlin to Dawn" and "Ode to a Friend" especially are awesome synth freakouts.

Tuomas, Friday, 31 January 2014 23:36 (four years ago) Permalink

this is the perfect thread to post about:

severence - hidden ceilings
sven weisemann - inner motions
and
the smoke clears - listen

each of which were on my eoy ballot, and i associate them with each other. haven't really seen anyone discuss them anywhere, probably b/c they're very humble albums, but they linger in that edge of sleep space which i really love. i don't think listening to a single track really does any of them justice because they all take time to pull you in, but all three are pretty much perfect.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Saturday, 1 February 2014 00:09 (four years ago) Permalink

Fuck me, that Weisemann album is a lot better than I remembered it as this year.

xelab, Saturday, 1 February 2014 00:56 (four years ago) Permalink

I don't know all of Steve Moore's other stuff so I like Pangea Ultima just fine--and happy to dig into earlier stuff if it's better. As of now the track "Logotronics" is doing it for me. (First song here: http://t.co/pYd21jZBcS)

I've played the Vanio album a few times now but it literally disappears midway through - so minimal it can't seem to compete with the noises of the world around me.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, 1 February 2014 04:29 (four years ago) Permalink

charles manier 2xlp from last year is killer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmmNDz4FNrk

Matt P, Saturday, 1 February 2014 06:34 (four years ago) Permalink

Steve Moore's other stuff

get thee to "the henge" immediately

föllakzoidberg (electricsound), Saturday, 1 February 2014 11:34 (four years ago) Permalink

i don't post to ilm about a big chunk of the new music i listen to, because it falls between the cracks of the rap/techno/etc threads. lots of pretty post-beat scene electronic music that sounds best on headphones but could work in a club in the right context, maybe.

― festival culture (Jordan), Friday, January 31, 2014 8:27 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hello

cristalnacht (lukas), Saturday, 1 February 2014 22:00 (four years ago) Permalink

Could A New Line (Related) fit this thread?

http://vimeo.com/70424275

Ex-Hood bloke does Chain Reaction from the wrong side of the Pennines.

djh, Saturday, 1 February 2014 23:23 (four years ago) Permalink

Weirdly ... ordered the Hauschka album (although not out until March) from City Slang (Early ordering due to a new commitment to ordering from "source" or non-Amazon and also for a second disc).

djh, Saturday, 1 February 2014 23:25 (four years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Really enjoying the new Karen Gwyer EP.

Also, the new White Rainbow, "Thru.u" is pretty terrific. He used to be an Emeralds-like drone thing on Kranky but has spent the last four years going way over to the other end of the spectrum - lots of beats, electro influence, etc. He's been experimenting via his Bandcamp page with a ton of releases, but the new album is his first "official" offering in a long time. It's great.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 21 February 2014 21:58 (four years ago) Permalink

So, I got the new Thomas P. Heckmann album I mentioned upthread in mail, and it didn't disappoint. Lovely FAX style trance/ambient/techno, with a dedication to Pete Namlook:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBJ11kclc3E

Tuomas, Friday, 21 February 2014 22:11 (four years ago) Permalink

yeh heckmann is boss, there's a great youtube video tour of his studio

Crackle Box, Friday, 21 February 2014 22:28 (four years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8hCQWI9WJ0

I guess you mean this one? Hadn't seen it before, holy shit at the stuff in his studio!

Tuomas, Friday, 21 February 2014 22:35 (four years ago) Permalink

the new secret circuit, torn hawk and willie burns collaborative release is great ("from the legal pad of circuit, burns and hawk"). i guess it's more of an EP than anything, and it's not purist techno by any means (torn hawk reminds me of early ducktails more than anything), but another in a line of great releases from fellow ilxor speculator/willie burns/black deer

hug niceman (psychgawsple), Friday, 21 February 2014 23:42 (four years ago) Permalink

So behind on my listening, need to hear a bunch of these things. The White Rainbow sounds interesting, I loved that guy's stuff in the past so it'll be good to hear where he's at now. I think the new Patten is really good! Not as overwhelmingly chaotic and cluttered as his previous one, but still lots of interesting juxtaposed sounds and textures.

night boat to mega therion (NickB), Monday, 24 February 2014 13:44 (four years ago) Permalink

xp more than anything more than anything blah

part of me wants to like the new white rainbow (i'm sure it's good!) but another part of me thinks forkner is sort of a dick who wants to ride the avant-techno bandwagon while having little interest in - and based on coversations, even some condescension towards - house/techno culture. like none of this matters even slightly for home listening purposes but in the context of the portland scene where he came from he's pretty late to this game and has done very little to play shows/throw parties/contribute to what's going on now

hug niceman (psychgawsple), Monday, 24 February 2014 19:35 (four years ago) Permalink

I'm about as removed from either Portland or techno scenes as possible but I loved Forkner's album as [[[vvrssnn]]] (yes, wanky name) back in 2003 and that had some electronic squiggles and beats - not enough to qualify for this thread but here's a couple of youtubes of the more electronic tracks in case anyone is curious: http://youtu.be/8xEJaw5GpWI / http://youtu.be/kFWSSTNO4BA - so I am interested to hear the new one

def not saying he should get a free pass because of that or anything, but it's prob still my favourite thing he's done, so I thought I'd mention it

anyway the last secret circuit was p. great, so a collab w/ speculator and torn hawk has certainly piqued my interest too

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 24 February 2014 19:58 (four years ago) Permalink

new thread covering stuff in this vein in 2018:
Rolling Experimental Electronic & Misfit Club Music 2018

mh, Friday, 19 January 2018 17:03 (seven months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

^^ no

the late great, Thursday, 29 March 2018 20:34 (four months ago) Permalink

anyway if you like your contemporary kosmische music i can give no higher recommendation than to the new vakula on leleka, "metaphors"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r50dBMjhqvU

the late great, Thursday, 29 March 2018 20:35 (four months ago) Permalink

that's just one side off a double 12" btw

the late great, Thursday, 29 March 2018 20:37 (four months ago) Permalink

Sorry you don't like my thread tlg ;_;

I like the mallet percussion on that though.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 29 March 2018 20:45 (four months ago) Permalink

haha i *do* like your thread i just believe in scene balkanization and internecine sub-genre warfare 4eva

the late great, Thursday, 29 March 2018 20:46 (four months ago) Permalink

(j/k I don't care where people post, I just wanted somewhere to put the music I've been listening to that didn't seem to fit anywhere else)

xp lol

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 29 March 2018 20:47 (four months ago) Permalink

it even bothers me there's a house and techno thread, would much prefer to split into house thread and techno thread, and then divide up house thread into different cities in the US and europe and beyond, and then divide those up by bpm, let a hundred (thousand) dance threads bloom, but sadly not enough posting to support that

the late great, Thursday, 29 March 2018 20:48 (four months ago) Permalink

Haha, I don't agree but it's a beautiful vision

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 29 March 2018 20:50 (four months ago) Permalink

i also think (much like idm) "experimental club" has become its own thing beyond just any club-rooted music that is, um, experimental, i.e. i think it's a great thread for the breaking glass / gun shot noises type stuff (which, don't get me wrong, i really like) or other post-grime post-footwork type stuff but i felt weird dropping this vakula in the middle of that

the late great, Thursday, 29 March 2018 20:52 (four months ago) Permalink

Did you hear that De Leon EP?

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 29 March 2018 20:58 (four months ago) Permalink

https://manarecs.bandcamp.com/album/de-leon

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 29 March 2018 20:59 (four months ago) Permalink

whoa that's awesome!!!! i would never have thought about crossover between gamelan and capoeira but when you think about it makes total sense. no vinyl, tho? ;_;

the late great, Thursday, 29 March 2018 21:04 (four months ago) Permalink

THE LATE GREAT OTM

brimstead, Thursday, 29 March 2018 21:10 (four months ago) Permalink

Looks like there's vinyl from the Honest Jon's link ;)

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 29 March 2018 21:19 (four months ago) Permalink

got pretty deep into listening to mumdance's radio show last week. a great collection of people doing different genres right blended into a distinctly done-wrong fabric via b2b choices

would recommend

mh, Thursday, 29 March 2018 21:29 (four months ago) Permalink

<3 Mumdance, thanks for the reminder. Really liked that recent RA profile too.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 29 March 2018 21:33 (four months ago) Permalink

is it "weightless" stuff

the late great, Thursday, 29 March 2018 21:34 (four months ago) Permalink

and that's his show on rinse, right?

the late great, Thursday, 29 March 2018 21:34 (four months ago) Permalink

heavy heavy monstah sounds

mh, Thursday, 29 March 2018 21:34 (four months ago) Permalink

for some reason I was thinking it was a nts show, but yes, rinse

mh, Thursday, 29 March 2018 21:36 (four months ago) Permalink

i can't find it, can you post a link?

the late great, Thursday, 29 March 2018 21:38 (four months ago) Permalink

http://mumdance.com/

mh, Thursday, 29 March 2018 21:38 (four months ago) Permalink

aahhh i'm super confused

you said his show last week, those are all from 2017!

the late great, Thursday, 29 March 2018 21:42 (four months ago) Permalink

no I said I was listening to the show last week!

as in, a bunch of episodes of the show. sorry for the ambiguity

mh, Thursday, 29 March 2018 21:48 (four months ago) Permalink

although I do like the idea of getting pretty deep on a single episode

mh, Thursday, 29 March 2018 21:53 (four months ago) Permalink

oh haha sorry me dumm

the late great, Thursday, 29 March 2018 22:15 (four months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

item: i back-to-backed the new skee mask album with last year's shed album and while i enjoyed the skee mask and the young dude energy behind it, the shed album is clearly on another level.

map, Sunday, 1 July 2018 21:35 (one month ago) Permalink

Shed LPs are a perfect example of how to do full length tech, especially the first two

brimstead, Sunday, 1 July 2018 23:16 (one month ago) Permalink

I found the new Skee Mask a bit cold and clinical. Give me Shed any day.

millmeister, Monday, 2 July 2018 12:18 (one month ago) Permalink

feel like people slept on that shed record "too homogenous" yes but everything on it rips. skee mask is comfort food to me, the drums sound amazing but it's also sorta like just sports videogame music or something, shed has ~~mystery~~ about the proceedings imo

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Monday, 2 July 2018 15:56 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah I posted in the "diss hyped releases" about that Skee Mask album, bewildering critical praise

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 09:28 (one month ago) Permalink

Shed is just a highly exceptional producer, the way he makes the bass rumble in the mix is just awesome.

brimstead, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 15:16 (one month ago) Permalink

one month passes...

I don't know how much longevity value it will have, but for now I'm quite digging that Pariah album.

calzino, Saturday, 4 August 2018 10:15 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Anyone who has not yet heard the atrociously titled 'Steal Chickens From Men And The Future From God' by the Swedish duo Shakarchi & Straneus should do so while the weather's still this good.

DJ Koze has been repping hard for it and you can tell why, although it's a lot better than his album.

Matt DC, Saturday, 4 August 2018 11:32 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i have been listening a lot of octo octa lately and i think she is a wonderful album artist. the one from last year is especially good

marcos, Friday, 10 August 2018 15:37 (one week ago) Permalink


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