Rolling techno* albums thread for people who are clearly doing it wrong

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On the other hand, I can't understand the love for the new Donato Dozzy album, seems like it placed quite high in the 2013 albums poll... To me it sounds like very standard droney ambient, like a B-list Fax album or something, I don't see why people find it so exceptional. Especially considering that Voices from the Lake and K really were exceptional and very good; this one feels much more meh to me.

Tuomas, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:34 (five years ago) Permalink

i need to spend more time w/ stellar om source. always enjoyed her stuff in the past though but that was more kind of free-floating astral dolphin music xps

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:36 (five years ago) Permalink

doesn't "bobbins" just mean "rolling thread"

Tim F, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:39 (five years ago) Permalink

I've never come across with anything by her before this; the earlier stuff seems pretty hard to find? Joy One Mile is not dolphin music though, it's quite kicking actually.

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Tuomas, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:41 (five years ago) Permalink

i think the dozzy record gets better the more attention you pay to it or else it tends to evaporate before you've taken it in, whereas VFTL sounded great even just as a background thing. didn't vote for dozzy though, wasn't even the best thing on that label last year (cos that was the quicksails record)

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:42 (five years ago) Permalink

(though i think this is a potentially useful distinction anyway, home-listening and album-focused electronic music rather than club-focused; the EOY polls always demonstrate there's interest in this)

lex pretend, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:42 (five years ago) Permalink

doesn't "bobbins" just mean "rolling thread"

you're probably better asking a person who knows what they're talking about tbh

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:43 (five years ago) Permalink

that was directed at branwell - I didn't think it actually "meant" anything in the way implied.

Tim F, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:45 (five years ago) Permalink

bobbins ain't dead anyway house and techno bobbins 2014

lex pretend, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:48 (five years ago) Permalink

Nope, and it was actually Anna F that coined the term "bobbins" because she was at that time writing for (big name UK based dance music magazine) and there were BLOOD ON THE DANCE FLOOR feuds between staff members about what was "Techno" and what was "House" and the differences between tiny micro-genres. And it was a running joke in her house that to avoid the death-match-feuds, to just call it all "dance... bobbins".

I cannot believe that I know stuff about the deep history of obscure ILM terms, but I guess this was just stuff we talked about while DJing.

I, too, would be happy to have an albums-based electronic bobbins thread, because I am LOL old and haven't danced in years.

these birches is awful (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:06 (five years ago) Permalink

Two recent albums I've been enjoying that might fit into this thread:

Steve Moore: Pangea Ultima
Ukkonen: The Ancient Tonalities of...

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:17 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah this is my kind of rolling thread, good call Nick

I get a lot of opportunity to check out new electronic releases but nowhere near enough to go raving or generally do much more than sort of mooch at the edge of the attendant culture

wilful brony (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:18 (five years ago) Permalink

Not a big fan of dividing "home" listening from "club" listening, as the delineation is fluid and arbitrary, but this is also only a personal take...but then similiarly I'm not a fan of microgenre naming either

but heres something which might fit,

https://soundcloud.com/richardzepezauer/bulldozers-from-nsyde-part-2

cog, Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:50 (five years ago) Permalink

Also, e/tape https://soundcloud.com/etape/t-12 though its maybe too sleepy even for this thread

cog, Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:53 (five years ago) Permalink

Hello. I'll be lurking in your thread. I may even post if I feel moved to listen to any music which is not either a year old and already discussed on ILX or 30 years old.

(like BB, also LOL too old to dance now and regretting that I spent my dancing-age years feeling that clubs were not welcoming spaces for me, lol indie kids, lol ugly women, etc)

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 30 January 2014 13:21 (five years ago) Permalink

down with this thread (I am, that is)

doglato dozzy (dog latin), Thursday, 30 January 2014 13:38 (five years ago) Permalink

Just been listening to Mika Vainio's new Konstellaatio album in his more ambient/less abrasive zero guise and it is very beautiful electronic head music, if that is what you are angling at in this thread.

xelab, Thursday, 30 January 2014 14:12 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah 99% of the dance music I hear now is "home listening" even it's totally banging and dancefloor-centric (and there are whole albums of that sort of stuff as well).

Bobbins will never die.

Matt DC, Thursday, 30 January 2014 14:26 (five years ago) Permalink

Was just listening to Konstalaatio today - very nice.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 31 January 2014 00:57 (five years ago) Permalink

New NHK'Koyxen album is out at last, which I've been looking forward to for a while. It's on Pan again, which is maybe better known for electronic art music, but the last one was great hall-of-mirrors machine music with subtlety mind-disordering rhythmic effects and a lot of people's favourite on that label along with the Lee Gamble one.

keiji cretins (NickB), Friday, 31 January 2014 11:35 (five years ago) Permalink

http://d1wtzzt4oxg683.cloudfront.net/images/covers/160/144660.jpg

^ so pretty!

keiji cretins (NickB), Friday, 31 January 2014 11:38 (five years ago) Permalink

Steve Moore: Pangea Ultima

dunno if it's just me but i find this his weakest release thus far. still good, but a bit watertready

föllakzoidberg (electricsound), Friday, 31 January 2014 11:39 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah I didn't find much call to give it a second listen

the first cologne based on a sea-captain based celebrity (seandalai), Friday, 31 January 2014 16:01 (five years ago) Permalink

really loving this new hauschka album - http://www.cityslang.com/releases/64220/abandoned-city/ - fans of nils frahm would be into it i think

lex pretend, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:04 (five years ago) Permalink

i'm really into pangaea ultima

the late great, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:06 (five years ago) Permalink

i keep being impressed / doing double takes whenever tracks from peter van hoesen's live performance come up on shuffle. it's still p microproduced but has a looser vibe i seem to be keying in on.

i feel like i sample from a lot of recent techno that just doesn't grab me, maybe i'm only paying half attention, seems like the production is samey in an immaculate way but there isn't any fire and it's all airless and boring. one example is the conforce album, just zzzzz imo

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:09 (five years ago) Permalink

oops i think it's life performance

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:12 (five years ago) Permalink

also want to rep for anthony parasole's label the corner out of new york, last two releases are awesome (parasole and phil moffa - pressure and tom diccico - no sympathy)

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:15 (five years ago) Permalink

though those aren't albums, ayy

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:16 (five years ago) Permalink

i don't post to ilm about a big chunk of the new music i listen to, because it falls between the cracks of the rap/techno/etc threads. lots of pretty post-beat scene electronic music that sounds best on headphones but could work in a club in the right context, maybe.

festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 31 January 2014 16:27 (five years ago) Permalink

Have enjoyed Hauschka in the past Lex (think it was Foreign Landscapes that I got into, that was very much modern chamber ensemble classical stuff though). Bit of a wait till mere mortals get to hear the new one - not out until mid-March by the looks of it.

Was giving the Mika Vainio a whirl a bit earlier. Sounds really well done but it was all a bit too austere for me. Have never quite got to grips with Pansonic either tbh so it probably wasn't meant to be.

keiji cretins (NickB), Friday, 31 January 2014 17:57 (five years ago) Permalink

vainio never clicked with me though on paper it sounds like exactly the kind of thing i'd dig.

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 21:28 (five years ago) Permalink

I noticed that a third volume of Thomas P. Heckmann's (aka Age, Drax, Skydiver, etc) The Lost Tales was recently released, you can play the whole album via the link. (It's not on Fax like the previous two, but on some new American label, which was apparently set up as a legacy label to Fax, since it folded with Pete Namlook's death.) Anyway, like the previous two, it collects previously unreleased material by Heckmann, some of which dates back to to the early 90s, so there's loads of trancey analogue sounds and cosmic techno goodness... And more synth solos than on his previous albums! Obviously this is very old school stuff, but since cosmic beats and Fax have always been my thing, I love it! "Berlin to Dawn" and "Ode to a Friend" especially are awesome synth freakouts.

Tuomas, Friday, 31 January 2014 23:36 (five years ago) Permalink

this is the perfect thread to post about:

severence - hidden ceilings
sven weisemann - inner motions
and
the smoke clears - listen

each of which were on my eoy ballot, and i associate them with each other. haven't really seen anyone discuss them anywhere, probably b/c they're very humble albums, but they linger in that edge of sleep space which i really love. i don't think listening to a single track really does any of them justice because they all take time to pull you in, but all three are pretty much perfect.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Saturday, 1 February 2014 00:09 (five years ago) Permalink

Fuck me, that Weisemann album is a lot better than I remembered it as this year.

xelab, Saturday, 1 February 2014 00:56 (five years ago) Permalink

I don't know all of Steve Moore's other stuff so I like Pangea Ultima just fine--and happy to dig into earlier stuff if it's better. As of now the track "Logotronics" is doing it for me. (First song here: http://t.co/pYd21jZBcS)

I've played the Vanio album a few times now but it literally disappears midway through - so minimal it can't seem to compete with the noises of the world around me.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, 1 February 2014 04:29 (five years ago) Permalink

charles manier 2xlp from last year is killer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmmNDz4FNrk

Matt P, Saturday, 1 February 2014 06:34 (five years ago) Permalink

Steve Moore's other stuff

get thee to "the henge" immediately

föllakzoidberg (electricsound), Saturday, 1 February 2014 11:34 (five years ago) Permalink

i don't post to ilm about a big chunk of the new music i listen to, because it falls between the cracks of the rap/techno/etc threads. lots of pretty post-beat scene electronic music that sounds best on headphones but could work in a club in the right context, maybe.

― festival culture (Jordan), Friday, January 31, 2014 8:27 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hello

cristalnacht (lukas), Saturday, 1 February 2014 22:00 (five years ago) Permalink

Could A New Line (Related) fit this thread?

http://vimeo.com/70424275

Ex-Hood bloke does Chain Reaction from the wrong side of the Pennines.

djh, Saturday, 1 February 2014 23:23 (five years ago) Permalink

Weirdly ... ordered the Hauschka album (although not out until March) from City Slang (Early ordering due to a new commitment to ordering from "source" or non-Amazon and also for a second disc).

djh, Saturday, 1 February 2014 23:25 (five years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Really enjoying the new Karen Gwyer EP.

Also, the new White Rainbow, "Thru.u" is pretty terrific. He used to be an Emeralds-like drone thing on Kranky but has spent the last four years going way over to the other end of the spectrum - lots of beats, electro influence, etc. He's been experimenting via his Bandcamp page with a ton of releases, but the new album is his first "official" offering in a long time. It's great.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 21 February 2014 21:58 (five years ago) Permalink

So, I got the new Thomas P. Heckmann album I mentioned upthread in mail, and it didn't disappoint. Lovely FAX style trance/ambient/techno, with a dedication to Pete Namlook:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBJ11kclc3E

Tuomas, Friday, 21 February 2014 22:11 (five years ago) Permalink

yeh heckmann is boss, there's a great youtube video tour of his studio

Crackle Box, Friday, 21 February 2014 22:28 (five years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8hCQWI9WJ0

I guess you mean this one? Hadn't seen it before, holy shit at the stuff in his studio!

Tuomas, Friday, 21 February 2014 22:35 (five years ago) Permalink

the new secret circuit, torn hawk and willie burns collaborative release is great ("from the legal pad of circuit, burns and hawk"). i guess it's more of an EP than anything, and it's not purist techno by any means (torn hawk reminds me of early ducktails more than anything), but another in a line of great releases from fellow ilxor speculator/willie burns/black deer

hug niceman (psychgawsple), Friday, 21 February 2014 23:42 (five years ago) Permalink

So behind on my listening, need to hear a bunch of these things. The White Rainbow sounds interesting, I loved that guy's stuff in the past so it'll be good to hear where he's at now. I think the new Patten is really good! Not as overwhelmingly chaotic and cluttered as his previous one, but still lots of interesting juxtaposed sounds and textures.

night boat to mega therion (NickB), Monday, 24 February 2014 13:44 (five years ago) Permalink

xp more than anything more than anything blah

part of me wants to like the new white rainbow (i'm sure it's good!) but another part of me thinks forkner is sort of a dick who wants to ride the avant-techno bandwagon while having little interest in - and based on coversations, even some condescension towards - house/techno culture. like none of this matters even slightly for home listening purposes but in the context of the portland scene where he came from he's pretty late to this game and has done very little to play shows/throw parties/contribute to what's going on now

hug niceman (psychgawsple), Monday, 24 February 2014 19:35 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm about as removed from either Portland or techno scenes as possible but I loved Forkner's album as [[[vvrssnn]]] (yes, wanky name) back in 2003 and that had some electronic squiggles and beats - not enough to qualify for this thread but here's a couple of youtubes of the more electronic tracks in case anyone is curious: http://youtu.be/8xEJaw5GpWI / http://youtu.be/kFWSSTNO4BA - so I am interested to hear the new one

def not saying he should get a free pass because of that or anything, but it's prob still my favourite thing he's done, so I thought I'd mention it

anyway the last secret circuit was p. great, so a collab w/ speculator and torn hawk has certainly piqued my interest too

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 24 February 2014 19:58 (five years ago) Permalink

I've discovered this "deconstructed club" genre via RYM, and like lots of it, but its really just IDM 3.0.

innocence adjacent (Sanpaku), Friday, 8 February 2019 21:38 (one month ago) Permalink

fair

mh, Friday, 8 February 2019 23:38 (one month ago) Permalink

not a big fan of either genre but must disagree

the late great, Friday, 8 February 2019 23:55 (one month ago) Permalink

Is deconstructed club music really a genre it seems like a weird strawman thing but idk

It just seems like there’s a lot of people doing a lot of things these days with club ways of making music, whether it’s neo breaks, fucked lo fi, or post bass weirdness ... maybe just a dialectical movement away from relentless grey tech house colliding with 90s revival? There’s no way Anthony Naples or acemo could be considered idm

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Saturday, 9 February 2019 00:19 (one month ago) Permalink

otm

macropuente (map), Saturday, 9 February 2019 00:28 (one month ago) Permalink

as far as 'deconstructed club' goes i think of the mumdance 'shared meanings' mix more than like lee gamble and PAN. someone like chevel is doing 'deconstructed club music' imo.

plus there's actual idm revival stuff now like the skee mask album

macropuente (map), Saturday, 9 February 2019 00:35 (one month ago) Permalink

One similarity is that no one doing it would apply that label to themselves, and if they are, it's probably trash.

change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 9 February 2019 00:39 (one month ago) Permalink

it's one of those catch all terms for "doing something kinda different" that misses the point by trying to fit a bunch of stuff into a demographic hole

macropuente (map), Saturday, 9 February 2019 00:47 (one month ago) Permalink

wait i thought deconstructed club was all that "ha dance" sounding breaking glass noises stuff

the late great, Saturday, 9 February 2019 00:47 (one month ago) Permalink

"shared meanings" ← thought this genre was called WEIGHTLESSSSS or something like that

the late great, Saturday, 9 February 2019 00:48 (one month ago) Permalink

Yeah, it was first coined to describe what Total Freedom, Lotic, Rabit, etc were doing. But it's since been absorbed as an influence, reacted against, transformed, etc and is essentially meaningless now.

(which is why I started the misfit club etc thread to bring those different strains of non-techno dance {and non-dance} music that I'm interested in)

change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 9 February 2019 01:05 (one month ago) Permalink

should a 2019 thread be made? meaningless beats 2019? or something?

until then, appreciating this rollover from late 2018 gonzo mid-fi post night slugs + breaks thing

lyra valenza - reality blizz (opal tapes)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-cNrMZLNT4

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Saturday, 9 February 2019 01:22 (one month ago) Permalink

Lorenzo Senni’s hyper-edited earlier stuff is probably the obvious reconstructed version

mh, Saturday, 9 February 2019 03:12 (one month ago) Permalink

Nkisi really hitting the spot.

pomenitul, Monday, 11 February 2019 15:26 (one month ago) Permalink

should a 2019 thread be made? meaningless beats 2019? or something?

The other thread isn't technically tied to a year, but I'd be fine with a new one if it's unwieldy (length or concept-wise)? Maybe a fresh start would be nice.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 11 February 2019 15:48 (one month ago) Permalink

the misfit one ... am i insane or did it not say 2018 ...not that it matters!! happy to have this thread be the repository for this confusing tendency. thank you by the way for all your contributions

another one, nyege nyege doing it again

https://soundcloud.com/hakunakulala/slikback-01-sonshitsu

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Monday, 11 February 2019 18:16 (one month ago) Permalink

Oh you're right! I'll start a new thread later (or feel free to do it if you have a cute title).

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 11 February 2019 18:55 (one month ago) Permalink

That track is pretty wild, will check out the release for sure.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 11 February 2019 18:57 (one month ago) Permalink

this is for techno/house not British guys doing footwork or whatever

brimstead, Monday, 11 February 2019 20:32 (one month ago) Permalink

Yeah please use the other thread.

Matt DC, Monday, 11 February 2019 21:14 (one month ago) Permalink

Oooh. Ok, bye techno dudes.

Rolling Reconstructed Club Music 2019

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 11 February 2019 21:15 (one month ago) Permalink

this is for techno/house hipster garbage like rezzett and skee mask, not British guys doing footwork or whatever

the late great, Monday, 11 February 2019 21:29 (one month ago) Permalink

one month passes...

https://jollydiscs.bandcamp.com/album/export

good weird shit

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 14 March 2019 15:29 (one week ago) Permalink

psherb did a writeup on pfork today, surprised me b/c i thought only i cared about RAP

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 14 March 2019 15:30 (one week ago) Permalink

really got into this Ossia album released this year

mh, Thursday, 14 March 2019 15:34 (one week ago) Permalink

checking out that RAP album

speaking of cross-genre album exercises, still trying to figure out if I like Heavy the Eclipse, the Clouds one

anyone else heard it?

mh, Thursday, 14 March 2019 15:38 (one week ago) Permalink

new to me, wild album art and track titles

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 14 March 2019 15:49 (one week ago) Permalink

been meaning to listen to the ossia lp

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 14 March 2019 15:49 (one week ago) Permalink

RAP really upped the game on names that are unsearchable on streaming services, huh

guess that is one way to make a bandcamp sale

mh, Thursday, 14 March 2019 15:54 (one week ago) Permalink

Ha, that was the only way I could find it (w/the label name). Maybe it's not on streaming services though, there's no way to know.

I was totally stumped the other day after hearing a mix and some tracks by a producer named 'Toni' on NTS the other day. Track names were all generic single words. Couldn't find a soundcloud, twitter, absolutely nothing. Good job Toni.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 14 March 2019 15:59 (one week ago) Permalink

hey man RAP is just a good name

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 14 March 2019 15:59 (one week ago) Permalink

the original fan

https://i.imgur.com/nZgDYG9.jpg

ciderpress, Thursday, 14 March 2019 16:02 (one week ago) Permalink

hah, I was referencing The Locust last week

but yes, the RAP release isn't on anything other than bandcamp afaict

mh, Thursday, 14 March 2019 16:08 (one week ago) Permalink

ciderpress, what comic is that? I remember it from somewhere but I'm drawing a blank

mh, Thursday, 14 March 2019 16:08 (one week ago) Permalink

dunno i think it's from some locust related record sleeve or merch or zine. it was briefly a meme on SA at some point back in the 00s which is where i have it from

ciderpress, Thursday, 14 March 2019 16:11 (one week ago) Permalink

ah, that makes sense

mh, Thursday, 14 March 2019 16:12 (one week ago) Permalink


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