Rolling techno* albums thread for people who are clearly doing it wrong

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Oh this is totally meant to be separate thing. I'm definitely an albums person in my listening habits and also more of a generalist too, so this thread is intended as a non-dance-focussed and non-expert thing, probably featuring a lot of ineptitude on my part that I would be too embarrassed and self-conscious about elsewhere.

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:16 (five years ago) Permalink

And techno* cos I have no idea about terminology, but was hoping to bring in ambient stuff as well as post-dubstep records too.

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:18 (five years ago) Permalink

oh here we go again: non-dance-focussed non-dancing-focussed

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:21 (five years ago) Permalink

someone edit this already to make me look less like an imbecile

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:21 (five years ago) Permalink

Right, so would the East India Youth album fit in here for discussion?

the drummer is a monster (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:29 (five years ago) Permalink

It's not really new, but I got the Stellar Om Source album from last year, and I'm really enjoying it... Reminds of me of the more technoish Warp records from the early 90s (LFO, Mike Ink, etc) in that it's both danceable and good for home-listening. It's total nostalgia stuff, sounds like it could've actually been made 20 years ago, but for a guy like me who often feels nostalgic for that era, it's hitting all the sweet spots.

Tuomas, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:29 (five years ago) Permalink

xp not heard it at all, so you tell me! thread police free zone here though so i say go for it

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:33 (five years ago) Permalink

On the other hand, I can't understand the love for the new Donato Dozzy album, seems like it placed quite high in the 2013 albums poll... To me it sounds like very standard droney ambient, like a B-list Fax album or something, I don't see why people find it so exceptional. Especially considering that Voices from the Lake and K really were exceptional and very good; this one feels much more meh to me.

Tuomas, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:34 (five years ago) Permalink

i need to spend more time w/ stellar om source. always enjoyed her stuff in the past though but that was more kind of free-floating astral dolphin music xps

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:36 (five years ago) Permalink

doesn't "bobbins" just mean "rolling thread"

Tim F, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:39 (five years ago) Permalink

I've never come across with anything by her before this; the earlier stuff seems pretty hard to find? Joy One Mile is not dolphin music though, it's quite kicking actually.


Tuomas, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:41 (five years ago) Permalink

i think the dozzy record gets better the more attention you pay to it or else it tends to evaporate before you've taken it in, whereas VFTL sounded great even just as a background thing. didn't vote for dozzy though, wasn't even the best thing on that label last year (cos that was the quicksails record)

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:42 (five years ago) Permalink

(though i think this is a potentially useful distinction anyway, home-listening and album-focused electronic music rather than club-focused; the EOY polls always demonstrate there's interest in this)

lex pretend, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:42 (five years ago) Permalink

doesn't "bobbins" just mean "rolling thread"

you're probably better asking a person who knows what they're talking about tbh

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:43 (five years ago) Permalink

that was directed at branwell - I didn't think it actually "meant" anything in the way implied.

Tim F, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:45 (five years ago) Permalink

bobbins ain't dead anyway house and techno bobbins 2014

lex pretend, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:48 (five years ago) Permalink

Nope, and it was actually Anna F that coined the term "bobbins" because she was at that time writing for (big name UK based dance music magazine) and there were BLOOD ON THE DANCE FLOOR feuds between staff members about what was "Techno" and what was "House" and the differences between tiny micro-genres. And it was a running joke in her house that to avoid the death-match-feuds, to just call it all "dance... bobbins".

I cannot believe that I know stuff about the deep history of obscure ILM terms, but I guess this was just stuff we talked about while DJing.

I, too, would be happy to have an albums-based electronic bobbins thread, because I am LOL old and haven't danced in years.

these birches is awful (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:06 (five years ago) Permalink

Two recent albums I've been enjoying that might fit into this thread:

Steve Moore: Pangea Ultima
Ukkonen: The Ancient Tonalities of...

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:17 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah this is my kind of rolling thread, good call Nick

I get a lot of opportunity to check out new electronic releases but nowhere near enough to go raving or generally do much more than sort of mooch at the edge of the attendant culture

wilful brony (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:18 (five years ago) Permalink

Not a big fan of dividing "home" listening from "club" listening, as the delineation is fluid and arbitrary, but this is also only a personal take...but then similiarly I'm not a fan of microgenre naming either

but heres something which might fit,

cog, Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:50 (five years ago) Permalink

Also, e/tape though its maybe too sleepy even for this thread

cog, Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:53 (five years ago) Permalink

Hello. I'll be lurking in your thread. I may even post if I feel moved to listen to any music which is not either a year old and already discussed on ILX or 30 years old.

(like BB, also LOL too old to dance now and regretting that I spent my dancing-age years feeling that clubs were not welcoming spaces for me, lol indie kids, lol ugly women, etc)

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 30 January 2014 13:21 (five years ago) Permalink

down with this thread (I am, that is)

doglato dozzy (dog latin), Thursday, 30 January 2014 13:38 (five years ago) Permalink

Just been listening to Mika Vainio's new Konstellaatio album in his more ambient/less abrasive zero guise and it is very beautiful electronic head music, if that is what you are angling at in this thread.

xelab, Thursday, 30 January 2014 14:12 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah 99% of the dance music I hear now is "home listening" even it's totally banging and dancefloor-centric (and there are whole albums of that sort of stuff as well).

Bobbins will never die.

Matt DC, Thursday, 30 January 2014 14:26 (five years ago) Permalink

Was just listening to Konstalaatio today - very nice.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 31 January 2014 00:57 (five years ago) Permalink

New NHK'Koyxen album is out at last, which I've been looking forward to for a while. It's on Pan again, which is maybe better known for electronic art music, but the last one was great hall-of-mirrors machine music with subtlety mind-disordering rhythmic effects and a lot of people's favourite on that label along with the Lee Gamble one.

keiji cretins (NickB), Friday, 31 January 2014 11:35 (five years ago) Permalink

^ so pretty!

keiji cretins (NickB), Friday, 31 January 2014 11:38 (five years ago) Permalink

Steve Moore: Pangea Ultima

dunno if it's just me but i find this his weakest release thus far. still good, but a bit watertready

föllakzoidberg (electricsound), Friday, 31 January 2014 11:39 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah I didn't find much call to give it a second listen

the first cologne based on a sea-captain based celebrity (seandalai), Friday, 31 January 2014 16:01 (five years ago) Permalink

really loving this new hauschka album - - fans of nils frahm would be into it i think

lex pretend, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:04 (five years ago) Permalink

i'm really into pangaea ultima

the late great, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:06 (five years ago) Permalink

i keep being impressed / doing double takes whenever tracks from peter van hoesen's live performance come up on shuffle. it's still p microproduced but has a looser vibe i seem to be keying in on.

i feel like i sample from a lot of recent techno that just doesn't grab me, maybe i'm only paying half attention, seems like the production is samey in an immaculate way but there isn't any fire and it's all airless and boring. one example is the conforce album, just zzzzz imo

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:09 (five years ago) Permalink

oops i think it's life performance

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:12 (five years ago) Permalink

also want to rep for anthony parasole's label the corner out of new york, last two releases are awesome (parasole and phil moffa - pressure and tom diccico - no sympathy)

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:15 (five years ago) Permalink

though those aren't albums, ayy

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:16 (five years ago) Permalink

i don't post to ilm about a big chunk of the new music i listen to, because it falls between the cracks of the rap/techno/etc threads. lots of pretty post-beat scene electronic music that sounds best on headphones but could work in a club in the right context, maybe.

festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 31 January 2014 16:27 (five years ago) Permalink

Have enjoyed Hauschka in the past Lex (think it was Foreign Landscapes that I got into, that was very much modern chamber ensemble classical stuff though). Bit of a wait till mere mortals get to hear the new one - not out until mid-March by the looks of it.

Was giving the Mika Vainio a whirl a bit earlier. Sounds really well done but it was all a bit too austere for me. Have never quite got to grips with Pansonic either tbh so it probably wasn't meant to be.

keiji cretins (NickB), Friday, 31 January 2014 17:57 (five years ago) Permalink

vainio never clicked with me though on paper it sounds like exactly the kind of thing i'd dig.

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 21:28 (five years ago) Permalink

I noticed that a third volume of Thomas P. Heckmann's (aka Age, Drax, Skydiver, etc) The Lost Tales was recently released, you can play the whole album via the link. (It's not on Fax like the previous two, but on some new American label, which was apparently set up as a legacy label to Fax, since it folded with Pete Namlook's death.) Anyway, like the previous two, it collects previously unreleased material by Heckmann, some of which dates back to to the early 90s, so there's loads of trancey analogue sounds and cosmic techno goodness... And more synth solos than on his previous albums! Obviously this is very old school stuff, but since cosmic beats and Fax have always been my thing, I love it! "Berlin to Dawn" and "Ode to a Friend" especially are awesome synth freakouts.

Tuomas, Friday, 31 January 2014 23:36 (five years ago) Permalink

this is the perfect thread to post about:

severence - hidden ceilings
sven weisemann - inner motions
the smoke clears - listen

each of which were on my eoy ballot, and i associate them with each other. haven't really seen anyone discuss them anywhere, probably b/c they're very humble albums, but they linger in that edge of sleep space which i really love. i don't think listening to a single track really does any of them justice because they all take time to pull you in, but all three are pretty much perfect.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Saturday, 1 February 2014 00:09 (five years ago) Permalink

Fuck me, that Weisemann album is a lot better than I remembered it as this year.

xelab, Saturday, 1 February 2014 00:56 (five years ago) Permalink

I don't know all of Steve Moore's other stuff so I like Pangea Ultima just fine--and happy to dig into earlier stuff if it's better. As of now the track "Logotronics" is doing it for me. (First song here:

I've played the Vanio album a few times now but it literally disappears midway through - so minimal it can't seem to compete with the noises of the world around me.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, 1 February 2014 04:29 (five years ago) Permalink

charles manier 2xlp from last year is killer.

Matt P, Saturday, 1 February 2014 06:34 (five years ago) Permalink

Steve Moore's other stuff

get thee to "the henge" immediately

föllakzoidberg (electricsound), Saturday, 1 February 2014 11:34 (five years ago) Permalink

i don't post to ilm about a big chunk of the new music i listen to, because it falls between the cracks of the rap/techno/etc threads. lots of pretty post-beat scene electronic music that sounds best on headphones but could work in a club in the right context, maybe.

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cristalnacht (lukas), Saturday, 1 February 2014 22:00 (five years ago) Permalink

Could A New Line (Related) fit this thread?

Ex-Hood bloke does Chain Reaction from the wrong side of the Pennines.

djh, Saturday, 1 February 2014 23:23 (five years ago) Permalink

Weirdly ... ordered the Hauschka album (although not out until March) from City Slang (Early ordering due to a new commitment to ordering from "source" or non-Amazon and also for a second disc).

djh, Saturday, 1 February 2014 23:25 (five years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Really enjoying the new Karen Gwyer EP.

Also, the new White Rainbow, "Thru.u" is pretty terrific. He used to be an Emeralds-like drone thing on Kranky but has spent the last four years going way over to the other end of the spectrum - lots of beats, electro influence, etc. He's been experimenting via his Bandcamp page with a ton of releases, but the new album is his first "official" offering in a long time. It's great.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 21 February 2014 21:58 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah it's a good un that

calzino, Saturday, 27 October 2018 22:58 (three months ago) Permalink

yeah, I've been listening to the dj richard album a lot lately.

silverfish, Monday, 29 October 2018 14:32 (three months ago) Permalink

I bought this album by Junes, it is "well vibey, mate" according to the local paper. I don't know if its a good fit for the lads that are doing it wrong thread but what is the worst that can happen?

saer, Monday, 29 October 2018 15:37 (three months ago) Permalink

that is lovely

niels, Monday, 29 October 2018 16:09 (three months ago) Permalink

the new skee mask album

oh this is quite nice, quite nice

j., Tuesday, 30 October 2018 02:25 (three months ago) Permalink

love the skee mask album!

Dan S, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 03:30 (three months ago) Permalink

another track from the Junes record, this one was a reluctant bench warmer at first, but since it got subbed on its been chipping in with assists from midfield with a rough hewn yet nonchalant air of a new signing from non-league

saer, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 07:12 (three months ago) Permalink

really like both of those Junes tracks

Dan S, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 06:05 (three months ago) Permalink

agree with the skee mask and dj richard praise!

bruce's sonder somatic is really doing it for me today as well

petey v, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 19:14 (three months ago) Permalink

Totally, Bruce album rules. But man am I having a hard time keeping all these “weird beats” threads straight ... so apologies if this has been posted elsewhere but the airmax 97 joint is awesome

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 19:30 (three months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

this is really growing on me

j., Monday, 24 December 2018 19:27 (one month ago) Permalink

Hell yeah, album of the year for me maybe

brimstead, Monday, 24 December 2018 19:59 (one month ago) Permalink

i love the hi-hats

j., Monday, 24 December 2018 21:54 (one month ago) Permalink

one month passes...

this one is excellent as well.

calzino, Saturday, 2 February 2019 10:48 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Debut Quadruple LP from Lizz is something of a mixed bag - snippets from all tracks stitched together here

not keen on first half at all! But theres some gold in the second half - the tracks at 21, 25, 28 and 35 mins are all great, some familiar faces in there too

saer, Saturday, 2 February 2019 13:23 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Nkisi is great. Heard one of those tracks on a mix, looking forward to checking out the rest.

change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 2 February 2019 18:21 (two weeks ago) Permalink

anticipating this album. reminded me of huerco s and indeed, popped up on his excellent recent RA podcast

loving this, particularly title track, special, and where they at

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Sunday, 3 February 2019 06:57 (two weeks ago) Permalink

The Nkisi album is wicked. Does that count as deconstructed club music?

Also feeling Take Me With You by Anthony Naples, some lovely chilled out deep house/ambient/dubby vibes

paolo, Sunday, 3 February 2019 11:31 (two weeks ago) Permalink

that's you running into a vampire weekend gig, that is :p

calzino, Sunday, 3 February 2019 13:58 (two weeks ago) Permalink

it's a year old mix and not an album but I've been listening to this mix I found after hearing a track by hyph11e and wanting to track down more music:

also checking out the new Lee Gamble album that I didn't even realize was coming out until it popped up on my recommendations last friday!

mh, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 15:53 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I've discovered this "deconstructed club" genre via RYM, and like lots of it, but its really just IDM 3.0.

innocence adjacent (Sanpaku), Friday, 8 February 2019 21:38 (one week ago) Permalink


mh, Friday, 8 February 2019 23:38 (one week ago) Permalink

not a big fan of either genre but must disagree

the late great, Friday, 8 February 2019 23:55 (one week ago) Permalink

Is deconstructed club music really a genre it seems like a weird strawman thing but idk

It just seems like there’s a lot of people doing a lot of things these days with club ways of making music, whether it’s neo breaks, fucked lo fi, or post bass weirdness ... maybe just a dialectical movement away from relentless grey tech house colliding with 90s revival? There’s no way Anthony Naples or acemo could be considered idm

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Saturday, 9 February 2019 00:19 (one week ago) Permalink


macropuente (map), Saturday, 9 February 2019 00:28 (one week ago) Permalink

as far as 'deconstructed club' goes i think of the mumdance 'shared meanings' mix more than like lee gamble and PAN. someone like chevel is doing 'deconstructed club music' imo.

plus there's actual idm revival stuff now like the skee mask album

macropuente (map), Saturday, 9 February 2019 00:35 (one week ago) Permalink

One similarity is that no one doing it would apply that label to themselves, and if they are, it's probably trash.

change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 9 February 2019 00:39 (one week ago) Permalink

it's one of those catch all terms for "doing something kinda different" that misses the point by trying to fit a bunch of stuff into a demographic hole

macropuente (map), Saturday, 9 February 2019 00:47 (one week ago) Permalink

wait i thought deconstructed club was all that "ha dance" sounding breaking glass noises stuff

the late great, Saturday, 9 February 2019 00:47 (one week ago) Permalink

"shared meanings" ← thought this genre was called WEIGHTLESSSSS or something like that

the late great, Saturday, 9 February 2019 00:48 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah, it was first coined to describe what Total Freedom, Lotic, Rabit, etc were doing. But it's since been absorbed as an influence, reacted against, transformed, etc and is essentially meaningless now.

(which is why I started the misfit club etc thread to bring those different strains of non-techno dance {and non-dance} music that I'm interested in)

change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 9 February 2019 01:05 (one week ago) Permalink

should a 2019 thread be made? meaningless beats 2019? or something?

until then, appreciating this rollover from late 2018 gonzo mid-fi post night slugs + breaks thing

lyra valenza - reality blizz (opal tapes)

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Saturday, 9 February 2019 01:22 (one week ago) Permalink

Lorenzo Senni’s hyper-edited earlier stuff is probably the obvious reconstructed version

mh, Saturday, 9 February 2019 03:12 (one week ago) Permalink

Nkisi really hitting the spot.

pomenitul, Monday, 11 February 2019 15:26 (one week ago) Permalink

should a 2019 thread be made? meaningless beats 2019? or something?

The other thread isn't technically tied to a year, but I'd be fine with a new one if it's unwieldy (length or concept-wise)? Maybe a fresh start would be nice.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 11 February 2019 15:48 (one week ago) Permalink

the misfit one ... am i insane or did it not say 2018 ...not that it matters!! happy to have this thread be the repository for this confusing tendency. thank you by the way for all your contributions

another one, nyege nyege doing it again

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Monday, 11 February 2019 18:16 (one week ago) Permalink

Oh you're right! I'll start a new thread later (or feel free to do it if you have a cute title).

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 11 February 2019 18:55 (one week ago) Permalink

That track is pretty wild, will check out the release for sure.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 11 February 2019 18:57 (one week ago) Permalink

this is for techno/house not British guys doing footwork or whatever

brimstead, Monday, 11 February 2019 20:32 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah please use the other thread.

Matt DC, Monday, 11 February 2019 21:14 (one week ago) Permalink

Oooh. Ok, bye techno dudes.

Rolling Reconstructed Club Music 2019

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 11 February 2019 21:15 (one week ago) Permalink

this is for techno/house hipster garbage like rezzett and skee mask, not British guys doing footwork or whatever

the late great, Monday, 11 February 2019 21:29 (one week ago) Permalink

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