Grimes/Claire Boucher thread

has blue ivy heard visions

has she stepped foot in an old navy

http://actuallygrimes.tumblr.com/post/84400601704/tbt

http://actuallygrimes.tumblr.com/post/86126857724/a-recording-of-my-voice-heehehoo

Thk u grimes for introducing me to "I luh you papi"

http://pitchfork.com/news/55446-grimes-says-she-wrote-a-song-for-rihanna-that-got-turned-down/

cool story bouch

I wrote a song for Rihanna too, got turned down tho, wanna hear it

re-recorder the visions songs ??
what the !?

tbh I'm intrigued. Some of the songs on Visions were cool but missing something.

hum. I can't see how this could be any good... reminds me of the thread about re-recorded albums (that are always shitty).
anyway, looking forward to the new album !

seems like she only re-recorded the tracks for her live show, not for release? makes sense, i'm sure she feels like she can make them sound a lot better now.

That's what I was thinking. Bedroom recordings sounding different at pitchfork fest or whatever. Haven't seen her live though, so I don't know.

https://soundcloud.com/actuallygrimes/go-1/

"The look is an anime elf assassin who is a big fan of dolly parton and patsy cline"

<3<3<3<3

I love the percussion in this (and the bass is cool too), like how she's using handclaps where hi hats would be, and the cool metallic kling klang stuff at the end! Grimes is so awesome!

oh wow.

how she's using handclaps where hi hats would be

has been done in that exact way on 50 million popular songs in the past 3 years fyi

lol at the avalanche of fan comments on there hating the EDM breakdown

uh it's decent i guess (not really, kinda boring actually) but if i didn't know it was grimes i don't think i would have given it even one full listen

i am glad she is angering her fans tho, they need to be angered more

Right.

I like this song a lot after two listens (wasn't sold after one).

I'd say at this point, I listen to a lot of music made my women. Probably more than music made by men. However, it creeps me out beyond belief when I see the fans of a lot of these women claim ownership of the particular artist's will and choices they make, and seeing how people were commenting on the new Grimes track just reminded me of that.

Quit being gross bossy fans, you dopes. These are grown ass women and they can do what they want...even if that means including a drop.

drop is dumb, song is pretty dumb

But are you suggesting that these fans claim ownership of a particular artist's will and choices because they are female? Because I'm pretty sure there would be the same amount of complaining if a track like this was put out by a male artist, like Panda Bear for instance.

I'm just saying I see it happen more with female artists, but I'm sure Austin Mahone and Twin Shadow and whoever else get a bit of it too.

lol at handclaps exchange

on first listen this does a better job of extending the Grimes brand into EDM than the taylor swift single from last summer did hers so w/e

It doesn't happen more often with women musicians. You're imagining things.

apparently this was the song written for rihanna

yeah that's the narrative

yeah it could be any fucker this.

However, it creeps me out beyond belief when I see the fans of a lot of these women claim ownership of the particular artist's will and choices they make, and seeing how people were commenting on the new Grimes track just reminded me of that.

Quit being gross bossy fans, you dopes. These are grown ass women and they can do what they want...even if that means including a drop.

people love the DIY aspects of "Visions," which Grimes made on her computer using Garageband. i personally really liked the album in part because the eclecticism of its influences felt really personal, right down to the akhmatova quotes on the album sleeve she designed herself. it's an indie album that appealed to indie fans with indie sensibilities. how do you expect them to react to this song? i get that some of the reactions are probably extreme and over-dramatic but i think most of the backlash is from fans who feel that grimes' music is important to them personally. many are probably teenagers. i don't think it has to do with not respecting her autonomy because she is a woman.

n.b. i like the new track fine.

I haven't really dug around to read any supposed "backlash" but are people really surprised that she has gone hi-fi / come out of the bedroom after previously participating in huge tours with Skrillex and Diplo, signing to Roc Nation, and for many years now professing a love for a lot of major label pop music? Not only that but she played this song a few weeks ago at the Governor's Ball, cameraphone youtubes of which were posted by pitchfork et al, where the presence of a "drop" was fairly evident?

fwiw i don't think her album will all sound like this. I recall 'Go' being labelled on her Twitter as "different from regular Grimes" before she played it live, and the fact that the song is being given away as a free download at least 6-7 months before an actual album release seems to suggest it will eventually be relegated to bonus track status / a fun little anomaly à la 'Phone Sex'.

It doesn't happen more often with women musicians. You're imagining things.

o ok wow i'm convinced thanx

yeah grimes has written at length about how she is constantly patronised by dudes thinking she doesn't know what she's doing as a producer or that she doesn't know anything about musical equipment

oh yeah, that's totally an issue. i just think that the backlash against this song is a separate issue and i don't think there is anything inherently sexist about hoping her new album is more similar to her last album than to a skrillex album. it seems outrageously condescending to like, not criticize something you don't like because you think the artist's autonomy is so fragile it must be nurtured and supported at all costs.

on another note, i agree with monotony that i think her new album will sound totally different from both this single and anything she's released in the past. i hope to be surprised by her new album and i expect to be.

It's gonna be children of men jams crazy

i just think that the backlash against this song is a separate issue

Right. I get that people might be taken aback by a style shift as dramatic as this one, but the way some of the pushback has been phrased is the same as I've seen with other female artists—especially the ones who are active on social media. All these fans flock to them very quickly and then get really possessive and creepy about every move they make. Can I cite examples? Not really. It's just a tone I've picked up by following Marina & The Diamonds and Charli XCX and Betty Who and Sky Ferreira and MØ and whoever else and seeing the fawning messages of support turn when something they don't like happens.

yeah that sounds plausible. people are generally more vicious, abusive, and condescending when they discuss famous women than when they discuss famous men. but would these be the true fans though? i think there is probably also a contingent of (young) people who love grimes so much, and base part of their identities on this fandom, that the idea of her going mainstream feels like, personally threatening. this is how it's always been with cult figures, their fans are possessive.

Well to be fair, if you're going to make an argument about gender and it's role in the reception of musicians by their fans, you better have more in your arsenal than personal anecdotes and ~creepy feelings. Behind the scenes, yes, women aren't considered to be equals in the music business in 2014. However, that's a separate issue. Brian Wilson was recently taken to task by fans for working with people they deemed not worthy. Does that signal a trend in people trying to diminish the choices and will of people over 65? The original assertion is really reaching for the stars.

yeeaaaah I dunno. big fan of Visions but Go is pretty disappointing imo.

did video surface of her other 2 new songs performed at governor's ball? I love "go," but she's explicitly said it's different because she wrote it for Rihanna.

Well to be fair, if you're going to make an argument about gender and it's role in the reception of musicians by their fans, you better have more in your arsenal than personal anecdotes and ~creepy feelings.

god i love this. if you want to make claims about sexism, better have a DAMN good case, because if those accused of sexism aren't on message boards, trust that a public defender will be appointed.

I answered my own question and found vid of another new song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x96MxA9nXnA

sounds really good. couldn't find the other though

Like something from the Nation Records roster.

pls list 5 of the 50 million songs that do the handclaps-instead-of-hi-hats thing

normally I am the first to jump on the "it's worse for female musicians" argument but this, I think, is universal. the black keys got it pretty bad this album cycle. arcade fire. the weeknd.

pls list 5 of the 50 million songs that do the handclaps-instead-of-hi-hats thing

beyonce - single ladies
kanye west - power
baauer - harlem shake
rihanna - birthday cake
big sean - dance (a$$)
nicki minaj - stupid hoe
juicy j - bandz a make her dance
tyga - rack city
travis porter - bring it back
soulja boy - donk
azealia banks - jumanji
jamie foxx - number one
the weeknd - the fall

not to mention like 90% of new orleans bounce & a ton of other club tracks from the past 20 years

https://twitter.com/Grimezsz/status/496084377781428225

:/

lol

i like her guest spot on the Bleachers album

album cycle shit this fall i hope